Trump Is Up Against a Demographic Time Bomb

WitoldPilecki said:
Light Socialism especially & even sometimes Medium Socialism are better for economic growth than extreme Capitalism or extreme Socialism.

I have many such examples.

Japan used Light Socislism in the Japanese economic miracle after WW2 achieved the #1 economic growth period in the 20th century.

Spain in the Spanish miracle used Light Socialism to achieve the #2 economic growth period in the 20th century.

FDR used light Socialism & achieved the #1 economic growth period in 20th century America.

LBJ achieved the fastest economic growth since FDR with social programs.

Hitler who I despise for obvious reasons.
Even so Nazis achieved faster economic growth using Medium Socialism than FDR.

China today is another example.
Using medium Socialism since the 1990s tp achieve perhaps the biggest economic miracle in history.
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What has been the result of those policies stated? Years later?
 
Sailor said:
What has been the result of those policies stated? Years later?
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Spain & Japan arguably became worse after becoming more Capitalist.

FDR & the Nazis should be criticized for enabling mass murder & oppression.

Also FDR & Nazis should be criticized for massive debt.

Still they achieved good economic growth periods.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Spain & Japan arguably became worse after becoming more Capitalist.

FDR & the Nazis should be criticized for enabling mass murder & oppression.

Also FDR & Nazis should be criticized for massive debt.

Still they achieved good economic growth periods.
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So you have nothing to back up your bullshit. You may go now.
 
Sailor said:
Not even close. What happened in the years after that socialism. Surely you can answer that somewhat intelligently.
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What happened from 1970 to present in the Capitalist USA?

Productivity, Stocks & CEOS salaries went up lot.

For the masses the real wages have stagnated or even declined since 1970.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
What happened from 1970 to present in the Capitalist USA?

Productivity, Stocks & CEOS salaries went up lot.

For the masses the real wages have stagnated or even declined since 1970.
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Work harder. The U.S. is truly the land of opportunity if you work for it.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Light Socialism especially & even sometimes Medium Socialism are better for economic growth than extreme Capitalism or extreme Socialism.

I have many such examples.

Japan used Light Socislism in the Japanese economic miracle after WW2 achieved the #1 economic growth period in the 20th century.

Spain in the Spanish miracle used Light Socialism to achieve the #2 economic growth period in the 20th century.

FDR used light Socialism & achieved the #1 economic growth period in 20th century America.

LBJ achieved the fastest economic growth since FDR with social programs.

Hitler who I despise for obvious reasons.
Even so Nazis achieved faster economic growth using Medium Socialism than FDR.

China today is another example.
Using medium Socialism since the 1990s tp achieve perhaps the biggest economic miracle in history.
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WTF is "light /and medium"socialism? it sounds like a burger being cooked.

NO CHINA DID NOT USE SOCIALISM -it rejected Maos communism in favor of Deng Xiaoping and capitalism (1978)

the rest of this mumbo jumbo is unclear

*another millennial idiot socialist* :palm: must be something in the water!
 
Sailor said:
Work harder. The U.S. is truly the land of opportunity if you work for it.
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Bullsh#t.

As I said productivity is way up.

Individualists are so dumb.

Real wages suffered because of Capitalists.
A mix of feminism, automation, outsourcing, illegals & H2B visas & Loss of unions are clearly responsible.


It might be a bit of a surprise but many modest income people work dang hard here & abroad.

Manuel laborers work so hard & make sh#t.

Also some of the countries working the longest & hardest hours are modest income.

Like Poland, Mexico, Greece, Russia, etc.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Bullsh#t.

As I said productivity is way up.

Individualists are so dumb.

Real wages suffered because of Capitalists.
A mix of feminism, automation, outsourcing, illegals & H2B visas & Loss of unions are clearly responsible.


It might be a bit of a surprise but many modest income people work dang hard here & abroad.

Manuel laborers work so hard & make sh#t.

Also some of the countries working the longest & hardest hours are modest income.

Like Poland, Mexico, Greece, Russia, etc.
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You say it is "bullshit" because, well, obviously, you are waiting for handouts. Work Jr. Get ahead.
 
dukkha said:
WTF is "light /and medium"socialism? it sounds like a burger being cooked.

NO CHINA DID NOT USE SOCIALISM -it rejected Maos communism in favor of Deng Xiaoping and capitalism (1978)

the rest of this mumbo jumbo is unclear

*another millennial idiot socialist* :palm: must be something in the water!
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Mao was an extreme Socialist.
I specifically said extreme Socialism like extreme Capitalism are inferior.

China still is medium Socialist.

They still have a ton of government companies & government regulations & government interference of the free market.
 
Sailor said:
You say it is "bullshit" because, well, obviously, you are waiting for handouts. Work Jr. Get ahead.
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Economies are collectives.
Why Individualists don't get it.

Toilet cleaners in America make more money than doctors in Somalia.

There's only so much an individual can do in a collective failure.

We are increasingly becoming a collective failure due to Capitalist greed.


PS.
I worked one of the hardest jobs physically for 4 years.

Doing back breaking labor lifting 50 pound bags 6- 11 hours a day.

At an Animal feed store.

I made minimum wage.

Now I'm going to college so I can make more than poverty & not have to work so hard.
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Economies are collectives.
Why Individualists don't get it.

Toilet cleaners in America make more money than doctors in Somalia.

There's only so much an individual can do in a collective failure.

We are increasingly becoming a collective failure due to Capitalist greed.


PS.
I worked one of the hardest jobs physically for 4 years.

Doing back breaking labor lifting 50 pound bags 6- 11 hours a day.

At an Animal feed store.

I made minimum wage.

Now I'm going to college so I can make more than poverty & not have to work so hard.
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That kind of work is good for your health. And you did not have to pay to go to gym to do it. So, ah, you are going to college to be a bigger part of the great capitalist system in this country. How do you reconcile that with your stance for socialism?
 
WitoldPilecki said:
Can't say I support Reaganomics.

However, the high charged issues are mostly over Illegals & guns.

The Dems attempts to disarm guns.
The Repubs attempts to mass deport.
Are
Much more likely to cause chaos & civil war here.
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There won't be a civil war here. People's lives are too good. War is hardship. and people these days freak out if they don't have power or Internet service for a couple of days.
 
Sailor said:
That kind of work is good for your health. And you did not have to pay to go to gym to do it. So, ah, you are going to college to be a bigger part of the great capitalist system in this country. How do you reconcile that with your stance for socialism?
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I never said I'm fully anti- Capitalist nor fully Socialist.

I support the hybrid system.
 
Sailor said:
No social program in this country would exist without the tax dollars brought in by capitalism.
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Socialism equates to control over the economy, not necessarily social programs.

Yes, I do support some socialism.

I think we should step in to stop & revoke the charters & confiscate businesses of those who hire Illegal immigrants & outsource jobs.

We should also limit but not eliminate automation.
A quota should be levied on robots replacing Humans.

We should also better regulate land use for better environmentalist concerns & regulate pollution.

I also believe in trust busting Amazon & Walmart.

But, I also do support social programs, particularly national healthcare.

As for welfare I think the Feds should use work abled recipients for public works & im farms to replace illegals.

Kind of like Clinton,s welfare reform.
But more extreme.
 
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