Trump is the best president since Lincoln.........................

Most of the Confederate Army were just dirt poor subsistence farmers. You know that well enough.

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the loyalty was to their states, but you can see a lot of the same stupid regionalism in today's politics....and in this thread
 
250,000+ of those weren't his citizens; they were the fucking enemy. We don't count dead Krauts or Japanese in our WWII casualties, and shouldn't count dead Confederates in our Civil War figures.

Lincoln primarily destroyed the Confederate, rather than the American economy.

Do you blame FDR for US entry into WWII?
jesus that is beyond the pale. conflating a civil war that took decades to bubble up to a war against facism and world domination is facile
 
Lincoln destroyed 40% of the country's gdp,
Oversaw the deat of 600,000+ citizens all to save his party.
Being better than Lincoln is low praise.

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jesus that is beyond the pale. conflating a civil war that took decades to bubble up to a war against facism and world domination is facile
That's Threedee for you, he studied history don't you know!

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jesus that is beyond the pale. conflating a civil war that took decades to bubble up to a war against facism and world domination is facile

No, there is absolutely nothing even slightly beyond the pale about my assessment. The antebellum south was not very different from fascism.

you guys are downright weird...saving the Union sucks???

You haven't been around the interwebs very long, have you?
 
No, there is absolutely nothing even slightly beyond the pale about my assessment. The antebellum south was not very different from fascism.

You haven't been around the interwebs very long, have you?
lol..if you wanna call slavery =facism..ok
 
the deed was recalled after the feds violated the constitution and the state.


you believe them because you're a hater. what it comes down to.

1) Cite the constitutional violation.
2) A deed, once given and paid for, cannot be taken back. That would be a violation of Natural Law.

Why should I not believe them? Were they lying? What kind of typical, everyday southerners would they have been if they were lying.
 
you guys are downright weird...saving the Union sucks???

Lincoln sucked and did more to violate our constitution than any other President. Slavery would have ended on its own accord like it did in countless countries. Lincoln didn't have to kill 500,000 citizens

But if you want to lionize him, feel fee
 
Lincoln sucked and did more to violate our constitution than any other President. Slavery would have ended on its own accord like it did in countless countries. Lincoln didn't have to kill 500,000 citizens

But if you want to lionize him, feel fee

No, it would not have. Southerners were obsessed with slavery, which is why, having not even been threatened, they seceded, and then provoked a war (they were also not very intelligent).

And he violated the Constitution in ways I'm sure you can't describe.
 
not allowing a state to leave the union.


government, in all it's forms, have no natural law. they are strictly bound by the rule of contract law.

Who was stopped from seceding? The war didn't begin, and wouldn't have occurred, if the CSA hadn't committed an act of war. So, cite a constitutional violation that America actually committed against the south.

And if a deed isn't subject to contract law, I don't know what is. That fort belonged to "we the people." If the south seceded tomorrow, they would not be in their rights to seize Yellowstone Park.
 
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