Trump Is Just 6 Votes Away From Impeachment

Truth Detector said:
Moron:

According to the General Social Survey, the number of Americans with some or a great deal of trust in the press has dropped 30 percentage points since the late 1970s.

Nearly two-thirds of Americans say the mainstream press is full of fake news, a sentiment that is held by a majority of voters across the ideological spectrum.

According to data from the latest Harvard-Harris poll, which was provided exclusively to The Hill, 65 percent of voters believe there is a lot of fake news in the mainstream media.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/334897-poll-majority-says-mainstream-media-publishes-fake-news

The most recent polling data from September 2019 puts the approval rating of the United States Congress at only 18 percent. This marks the second time since September 2018 that the Congressional approval rating has hit 18 percent -- its second-lowest figure in the past year.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/207579/public-approval-rating-of-the-us-congress/
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Can you post something more current than two years ago? Surely your handlers can do better.
 
floridafan said:
And you are a typical trumper who would sacrifice any member of your family on the alter of Donald Trump.
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floridafan said:
I don't lie
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6 votes from impeachment, but no actual voting even scheduled. hmm. curiouser and curiouser, alice. everybody take your place, before we start the caucus race.
 
This is where we stand now.

These are my best guesses in trying to guess how each one of these 53 people would vote on the conviction of Donald Trump for violating his oath of office:

NO:
Rick Scott FL
Mike Braun IN
Roger Wicker MI
Cindy Hyde-Smith MI
John Hoeven ND
Kevin Cramer ND
Marsha Blackburn TN
John Barrasso WY
Jim Risch ID
Rand Paul KY
Tom Cotton AR


YES:
Mitt Romney UT
Richard Burr NC
Susan Collins ME
Mike Lee UT
Lisa Murkowski AK
Martha McSally AZ
Cory Gardner CO
Marco Rubio FL
Todd Young IN
Joni Ernst IA
Jerry Moran KA
Roy Blunt MO
Ben Sasse NE
Rob Portman OH


MAYBE:
Richard Shelby AL
Mike Crapo ID
Bill Cassidy LA
John Kennedy LA
Josh Hawley MS
Thom Tillis NC
Tim Scott SC
Lamar Alexander TN
Shelly Moore Capito WV
Mike Enzi WY
Dan Sullivan AK
Johnny Isakson GA
Pat Roberts KA
Steve Daines MT
Deb Fischer NE
Jim Inhofe OK
John Boozman AR
Mike Rounds SD
David Perdue GA
James Lankford OK
Ted Cruz TX
Chuck Grassley IA
Mitch McConnell KY
Ron Johnson WI
Lindsey Graham SC


UNDECIDED:
Pat Toomey PA
John Thune SD
John Cornyn TX

These are only guesses based on what I could learn about each one of these figures. As new information becomes available, these column entries are all subject to being shifted around. If you believe any of these guesses are unlikely, please say why. Tell me what you think. Specific reasons will be given strong consideration. (Generalizations are not useful for this exercise.)
 
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I would favor a secret ballot. That would take the political pressure off each juror.

If the proper thing is done, we may never know how they voted.

Unless it is unanimous, of course.
 
PoliTalker said:
I would favor a secret ballot. That would take the political pressure off each juror.

If the proper thing is done, we may never know how they voted.

Unless it is unanimous, of course.
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Roy Blunt is a Sen. from MO not MS. I think I would put him in the Maybe category for now.
 
PoliTalker said:
I would favor a secret ballot. That would take the political pressure off each juror.

If the proper thing is done, we may never know how they voted.

Unless it is unanimous, of course.
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so you're against transparency and accountability. of course you are.
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,

ThatOwlWoman said:
Roy Blunt is a Sen. from MO not MS. [thanks - done] I think I would put him in the Maybe category for now.
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Why?

You were the reason he went into the YES column:

ThatOwlWoman said:
I suspect that Sen. Blunt of Missouri may come around to the yes column as well. He is extremely conservative, yet Wikipedia's entry here jibes with my memory of him upholding traditional Republican stances.

"According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Blunt "has one of the Senate's most conservative voting records, yet he generally avoids the confrontational, firebrand style" and during his tenure in the U.S. Senate "Blunt's most significant legislative accomplishments all had Democrat co-sponsors."[43] The Lugar Center and Georgetown's McCourt School of Public Policy's Bipartisan Index ranked Blunt the 11th most bipartisan senator in the first session of the 115th United States Congress.[44]"
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That made sense. When I read the wiki entry on him, and then recent statements by him about the impeachment, it sounds like he is really interested in getting to the bottom of it, although he thinks the House is partisan, he didn't seem to believe the Senate would be.

So why have you changed your position on Blunt?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello ThatOwlWoman,



Why?

You were the reason he went into the YES column:



That made sense. When I read the wiki entry on him, and then recent statements by him about the impeachment, it sounds like he is really interested in getting to the bottom of it, although he thinks the House is partisan, he didn't seem to believe the Senate would be.

So why have you changed your position on Blunt?
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I didn't. In my original comments, which you quoted, I said "may come around," which means maybe. Unlike many of the others, he's at least being thoughtful about the situation and didn't just pop out with a kneejerk NO.
 
Hello Threedee,

Threedee said:
Well, the OP claims it would fail by six votes. I'm not sure what the point of your post is...
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That was a teaser. The OP also says the article is two years old. The OP goes on to say we are trying to make an approximation of what we believe the Senate vote on a current conviction would be. Strangely enough, we are currently at 14 YES votes, (meaning we are 6 votes away from conviction) but it sounds like we may drop to 13 depending on the discussion about Blunt.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Threedee,



That was a teaser. The OP also says the article is two years old. The OP goes on to say we are trying to make an approximation of what we believe the Senate vote on a current conviction would be. Strangely enough, we are currently at 14 YES votes, (meaning we are 6 votes away from conviction) but it sounds like we may drop to 13 depending on the discussion about Blunt.
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The more we learn about the situation with the Ukraine, the fewer Congresspersons will want to be voting on impeachment.
 
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