Trump: I would have run into school during shooting even without a gun

NOVA said:
No...I don't think so.....but if those nitwits carry out any of their threats against us or our allies...I'll be cheering Trump on.....
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I guess you were being sarcastic here. Surely you weren't calling for a pre-emptive strike, right?

"I guess we should not 'nuke' N. Korea or provoke them in any way....we ought to at the very least wait until they send their nukes to the S. Koreans, Hawaii, and maybe several cities in California before
we take any steps to deter them.....its just the right thing to do...we gotta take the high road."
 
NOVA said:
Its like this dear. YOU brought up Trumps deferment records...and YOU brought up Bill Clinton....

I responded to both your topics of choice....now the facts remain....

Trump flunked a physical given to him by the military....as do millions of others.

Billy boy, joined the ROTC to get a deferment and they refused to go when the ROTC called on him.....HE is a draft dodger.....end of story....
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Actually you brought up Clinton.

Here you go.

https://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/felon.asp
 
christiefan915 said:
I guess you were being sarcastic here. Surely you weren't calling for a pre-emptive strike, right?

"I guess we should not 'nuke' N. Korea or provoke them in any way....we ought to at the very least wait until they send their nukes to the S. Koreans, Hawaii, and maybe several cities in California before
we take any steps to deter them.....its just the right thing to do...we gotta take the high road."
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Me?...being sarcastic ?

This is exactly what you want us to do isn't it.....
wait until a few US cities are bombed before we act....
wait until a few S. K. cites get nuked first.....

isn't that exactly what you are suggesting ?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Actually you brought up Clinton.

Here you go.

https://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/felon.asp
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Did you read it all? Clinton was a draft dodger like Bush was, He used connections to keep out of harms way a small part of the time. He did however qualify for a long time of no draft status because of school and then Rhodes scholar in England. Back then you got a 2 S draft status for school, which kept you out of the draft. We all stayed in school a longer time during Vietnam.
 
Trump Diva said:
They've proven they are a joke. Only they can change the perception.
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You are the joke. Reported to the FBI der de der de der.
LOL

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NOVA said:
Thats quite dance step....Didn't you know Bill was a draft dodger ?....Joined the ROTC to get a deferment and then failed to show up....Yep, he's the real McCoy.....
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link?

and heres the problem

lots of people dodged the draft during the Vietnam war.


some then later went on to call war heros evil things

and talked about nuking everyone



those are the ones who deserve hate
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton#Vietnam_War_opposition_and_draft_controversy


Vietnam War opposition and draft controversy
While at Oxford, Clinton also participated in Vietnam War protests and organized an October 1969 Moratorium to End the War in Vietnam event.[2]
During the Vietnam War, Clinton received educational draft deferments while he was in England in 1968 and 1969.[21] He was planning to attend law school in the U.S. and was aware that he might lose his draft deferment. Clinton tried unsuccessfully to obtain positions in the National Guard or Air Force, and he then made arrangements to join the Reserve Officers' Training Corps (ROTC) program at the University of Arkansas.[22]
He subsequently decided not to join the ROTC, saying in a letter to the officer in charge of the program that he opposed the war, but did not think it was honorable to use ROTC, National Guard, or Reserve service to avoid serving in Vietnam. He further stated that because he opposed the war, he would not volunteer to serve in uniform, but would subject himself to the draft, and would serve if selected only as a way "to maintain my political viability within the system".[23] Clinton registered for the draft and received a high number (311), meaning that those whose birthdays had been drawn as numbers 1 to 310 would have to be drafted before him, making it unlikely that he would be drafted. (In fact, the highest number drafted was 195.)[24]
Colonel Eugene Holmes, the Army officer who had been involved with Clinton's ROTC application, suspected that Clinton attempted to manipulate the situation to avoid the draft and avoid serving in uniform. He issued a notarized statement during the 1992 presidential campaign:
I was informed by the draft board that it was of interest to Senator Fulbright's office that Bill Clinton, a Rhodes Scholar, should be admitted to the ROTC program ... I believe that he purposely deceived me, using the possibility of joining the ROTC as a ploy to work with the draft board to delay his induction and get a new draft classification.[25]
During the 1992 campaign, it was revealed that Clinton's uncle had attempted to secure him a position in the Navy Reserve, which would have prevented him from being deployed to Vietnam. This effort was unsuccessful and Clinton said in 1992 that he had been unaware of it until then.[26] Although legal, Clinton's actions with respect to the draft and deciding whether to serve in the military were criticized during his first presidential campaign by conservatives and some Vietnam veterans, some of whom charged that he had used Fulbright's influence to avoid military service.[27][28] Clinton's 1992 campaign manager, James Carville, successfully argued that Clinton's letter in which he declined to join the ROTC should be made public, insisting that voters, many of whom had also opposed the Vietnam War, would understand and appreciate his position.[29]
 
Newly released documents suggest that a young Donald Trump received several deferments that could have allowed him to avoid service in Vietnam, contrasting claims he made this week that he missed the draft solely because he had a high lottery number.
Trump, who has hinted in recent weeks at a possible run for the White House, told WNYW, the New York Fox affiliate, that he was "lucky" to avoid the draft and remembered the lottery taking place while he was a student at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School.
"I was going to the Wharton School of Finance, and I was watching as they did the draft numbers and I got a very, very high number and those numbers never got up to," Trump said.
In that conversation Trump did not mention he also received several deferments.
According to his Selective Service records, first obtained by the website The Smoking Gun through a Freedom of Information Act request, Trump received four student deferments between 1964 and 1968 while in college and an additional medical deferment after graduating.
Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School in 1968. The lottery occurred in December 1969, conflicting with Trump's recollection of the event.
Lottery numbers ranged from 1 to 365 and were allotted according to birthdates. Trump's number was a very high, 356.
Trump received his first two student deferments while enrolled at Fordham University in New York City in June 1964 and December 1965. He transferred to Wharton as a sophomore that year and received another two 2-S deferments in December 1966 and January 1968 during his last year of college.
He was classified "available for service" (class 1-A) in November 1966, but just three weeks later in December 1966 he was given a new student deferment.
Upon graduation Trump, the son of a wealthy New York City real estate developer, was no longer eligible for student deferments.
In October 1968, he was declared medically unfit to serve except "in time of national emergency," even though he had been declared fit to serve in 1966.
In 1972, Trump was ultimately declared ineligible for service and given a final 4-F deferment.
 
evince said:
Newly released documents suggest that a young Donald Trump received several deferments that could have allowed him to avoid service in Vietnam, contrasting claims he made this week that he missed the draft solely because he had a high lottery number.
Trump, who has hinted in recent weeks at a possible run for the White House, told WNYW, the New York Fox affiliate, that he was "lucky" to avoid the draft and remembered the lottery taking place while he was a student at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School.
"I was going to the Wharton School of Finance, and I was watching as they did the draft numbers and I got a very, very high number and those numbers never got up to," Trump said.
In that conversation Trump did not mention he also received several deferments.
According to his Selective Service records, first obtained by the website The Smoking Gun through a Freedom of Information Act request, Trump received four student deferments between 1964 and 1968 while in college and an additional medical deferment after graduating.
Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School in 1968. The lottery occurred in December 1969, conflicting with Trump's recollection of the event.
Lottery numbers ranged from 1 to 365 and were allotted according to birthdates. Trump's number was a very high, 356.
Trump received his first two student deferments while enrolled at Fordham University in New York City in June 1964 and December 1965. He transferred to Wharton as a sophomore that year and received another two 2-S deferments in December 1966 and January 1968 during his last year of college.
He was classified "available for service" (class 1-A) in November 1966, but just three weeks later in December 1966 he was given a new student deferment.
Upon graduation Trump, the son of a wealthy New York City real estate developer, was no longer eligible for student deferments.
In October 1968, he was declared medically unfit to serve except "in time of national emergency," even though he had been declared fit to serve in 1966.
In 1972, Trump was ultimately declared ineligible for service and given a final 4-F deferment.
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this
 
some even actually served in Vietnam

saved lives

won medals


came home heros


but the republicans hate those guys
 
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=116x8946


Democrats
Richard Gephardt: Air National Guard, 1965-71
David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72
Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72
Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam Jan. 1971 as an army
journalist in 20th Engineer Brigade
Bob Kerrey: Lt. j.g. Navy 1966-69; Medal of Honor, Vietnam
Daniel Inouye: Army 1943-47; Medal of Honor, WWII
John Kerry: Lt., Navy 1966-70; Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat
V Purple Hearts
John Edwards: did not serve
Charles Rangel: Staff Sgt., Army 1948-52; Bronze Star, Korea
Max Cleland: Captain, Army 1965-68; Silver Star &Bronze Star,
Vietnam
Ted Kennedy: Army, 1951-53
Tom Harkin: Lt., Navy, 1962-67; Naval Reserve, 1968-74
Jack Reed: Army Ranger, 1971-79; Captain, Army Reserve 1979-91
Fritz Hollings: Army officer in WWII, receiving the Bronze Star and
seven campaign ribbons
Leonard Boswell: Lt. Col., Army 1956-76; Vietnam, DFCs, Bronze
Stars, and Soldier's Medal
Pete Peterson: Air Force Captain, POW. Purple Heart, Silver Star and
Legion of Merit
Mike Thompson: Staff sergeant, 173rd Airborne, Purple Heart
Bill McBride: Candidate for Fla. Governor. Marine in Vietnam; Bronze
Star with Combat V
Gray Davis: Army Captain in Vietnam, Bronze Star
Pete Stark: Air Force 1955-57
Chuck Robb: Vietnam
Howell Heflin: Silver Star
George McGovern: Silver Star &DFC during WWII
Bill Clinton: Did not serve. Student deferments. Entered draft but
received 311
Jimmy Carter: Seven years in the Navy
Walter Mondale: Army 1951-53
John Glenn: WWII and Korea; six DFCs and Air Medal with 18 Clusters
Tom Lantos: Served in Hungarian underground in WWII. Saved by Raoul
Wallenberg
Wesley Clark: U.S. Army, 1966-2000, West Point, Vietnam, Purple
Heart, Silver Star. Retired 4-star general
John Dingell: WWII vet
John Conyers: Army 1950-57, Korea

NOW FOR THE EYE (and hopefully MIND) OPENER!
Republicans
Dennis Hastert: did not serve
Tom Delay: did not serve
House Whip Roy Blunt: did not serve
Bill Frist: did not serve
Rudy Giuliani: did not serve
George Pataki: did not serve
Mitch McConnell: did not serve
Rick Santorum: did not serve
Trent Lott: did not serve
Dick Cheney: did not serve.
John Ashcroft: did not serve.
Jeb Bush: did not serve
Karl Rove: did not serve
Saxby Chambliss: did not serve because of "bad knee."He's the man
who attacked Max Cleland's patriotism
Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve
Vin Weber: did not serve
Richard Perle: did not serve
Douglas Feith: did not serve
Eliot Abrams: did not serve
Richard Shelby: did not serve
Jon Kyl: did not serve
Tim Hutchison: did not serve
Christopher Cox: did not serve
Newt Gingrich: did not serve
Don Rumsfeld: served in peacetime Navy (1954-57)
George W. Bush: six-year Nat'l Guard commitment (incomplete)
Ronald Reagan: due to poor eyesight, served in a non-combat role
making movies
Gerald Ford: Navy, WWII
Phil Gramm: did not serve
John McCain: Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart
and Distinguished Flying Cross
Bob Dole: an honorable veteran
Chuck Hagel: two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star, Vietnam
Jeff Sessions: Army Reserves, 1973-86
JC Watts: did not serve
Lindsey Graham: National Guard lawyer
G.H.W. Bush: Pilot in WWII. Shot down by the Japanese
Tom Ridge: Bronze Star for Valor in Vietnam
Antonin Scalia: did not serve
Clarence Thomas: did not serve

Pundits and Preachers
Sean Hannity: did not serve
Rush Limbaugh: did not serve (4-F with a 'pilonidal cyst.')
Bill O'Reilly: did not serve
Michael Savage: did not serve
George Will: did not serve
Chris Matthews: did not serve
Paul Gigot: did not serve
Bill Bennett: did not serve
Pat Buchanan: did not serve
Bill Kristol: did not serve
Kenneth Starr: did not serve
Michael Medved: did not serve
 
what the republican party did to John Kerry should have killed the party dead

it instead became the sociopathic liars party
 
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