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You seem very touchy GayRod
Maybe the shutdown isn’t working out exactly like you thought?
Personally I am loving it
Trump: I could declare a national emergency to get border wall
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You seem very touchy GayRod
Maybe the shutdown isn’t working out exactly like you thought?
Personally I am loving it
I’m happy with it, Trump facing a real obstacle for the first time.... Nancy Pelosi showing her superior negotiation skills. He is about to explode... it’s his pattern.
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What is Nazi Pelousy negotiating?
No collusion
Mexico will pay for the wall
I never paid Stormy
I didn’t know Cohen paid Stormy
I paid Cohen back for paying Stormy
My campaign never met with Russians
Only a few low level campaign members met Russians.
My son met with Russians but only about adoptions.
I didn’t know about the meeting.
I did not dictate Don Jr’s statement.
I can declare an emergency and build the wall.
I will ban all Muslims from entering the Country.
And on and on and on...
Mexico will pay for the wall
I never paid Stormy
I didn’t know Cohen paid Stormy
I paid Cohen back for paying Stormy
My campaign never met with Russians
Only a few low level campaign members met Russians.
My son met with Russians but only about adoptions.
I didn’t know about the meeting.
I did not dictate Don Jr’s statement.
I can declare an emergency and build the wall.
I will ban all Muslims from entering the Country.
And on and on and on...
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dear fucking idiot,
its your orange mushroom heap who is saying he is all powerful
fuck you very much
If this is true why did Congress limit those powers through the National Emergencies Act in 1976 after realizing that many emergencies were still in effect?
If Trump was legit, he would not have lied about talking with Clinton, Bush and Obama about their desire for a wall.
Show me where the Constitution gives the president special powers in a National Emergency....
Congress and Courts might have allowed it, does not make it right or Constitutional.
I can show you decisions where the SCOTUS recognized the powers, or didn't depending on the time. Truman used it to put Japanese folks in internment camps, for instance...
Franklin D. Roosevelt used it first in 1933 to stop the "hoarding of gold". It was one of the ones that remained in effect in the 1970s when Congress decided to act to diminish the power. The SCOTUS ruled in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer to limit the scope of actions but didn't limit the emergency declaration power itself.
The reality is, the SCOTUS recognizes the power of the President to act in an Emergency... and Congress does too. Some lawyer who ignores stuff like that notwithstanding, the reality does not reflect your views on this subject.
Trump isn't a Franklin Roosevelt..
Don't get me wrong, the only thing I am saying here is that the President does have this power and it has been supported in the past and Jarod is wrong. I do not think it applies here and now for this wall and think the courts will rule against him. And unlike Lincoln, so far this Administration doesn't ignore the courts.
You think they would allow Rump to do it over this “wall”?
Congress and Courts might have allowed it, in the past, it does not make it right or Constitutional.
The Constitution does NOT give the president such a right.
No. I'm just pointing out that just standing around saying, "There is no Emergency Power for the President" doesn't make it true. Please see one post up from the one I am quoting here. As I said previously, the opinion of one attorney declaring something doesn't exist doesn't actually fit with reality in this case.
Congress and Courts might have allowed it, in the past, it does not make it right or Constitutional.
The Constitution does NOT give the president such a right.
Government doesn't have rights they have powers. SCOTUS has ruled in the past that the President has the power to take action during emergencies, it is in how the branches are designed. Stating it simply: As the action branch, the executive is the only branch that can act if we actually have an emergency.
The founders considered giving such powers to the executive and rejected the idea. As I said, Just because it has happened in the past, does not make it correct or constitutional.