Trump has spawned an era of sore losers who won’t accept defeat
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cawacko
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Of course, because it appeals to you. To spawn an era would mean a number of people follow with the same behavior. The examples above all happened prior. Trump took sore loser to the next level but he didn’t spawn an era
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Phantasmal,
Or a bloody destructive insurrection and capitol attack!
Talk is one thing, particularly when there are legitimate issues. Violence is quite another.
The Florida 2000 election did include some legitimate issues. Thousands of votes from black voters were not counted. For instance, if a voter wrote in "Al Gore," that vote was thrown out because while entering "Gore" would have been counted, the machine was programmed to throw it out if it was "Al Gore" because it considered "Al" a stray mark. -Not- kidding. That is what happened.
Greg Pallast is a reknowned investigative reporter.
One Million Black Votes Didn't Count in The 2000 Presidential Election…
"Florida’s Gadsden County has the highest percentage of black voters in the state — and the highest spoilage rate. One in 8 votes cast there in 2000 was never counted. Many voters wrote in “Al Gore.” Optical reading machines rejected these because “Al” is a “stray mark.”
By contrast, in neighboring Tallahassee, the capital, vote spoilage was nearly zip; every vote counted. The difference? In Tallahassee’s white- majority county, voters placed their ballots directly into optical scanners. If they added a stray mark, they received another ballot with instructions to correct it.
In other words, in the white county, make a mistake and get another ballot; in the black county, make a mistake, your ballot is tossed."
"An apartheid vote-counting system is far from politically neutral. Given that more than 90 percent of the black electorate votes Democratic, had all the “spoiled” votes been tallied, Gore would have taken Florida in a walk, not to mention fattening his popular vote total nationwide."
Bush was declared the winner in Florida, and the nation, by just 537 votes.
Or a bloody destructive insurrection and capitol attack!
Talk is one thing, particularly when there are legitimate issues. Violence is quite another.
The Florida 2000 election did include some legitimate issues. Thousands of votes from black voters were not counted. For instance, if a voter wrote in "Al Gore," that vote was thrown out because while entering "Gore" would have been counted, the machine was programmed to throw it out if it was "Al Gore" because it considered "Al" a stray mark. -Not- kidding. That is what happened.
Greg Pallast is a reknowned investigative reporter.
One Million Black Votes Didn't Count in The 2000 Presidential Election…
"Florida’s Gadsden County has the highest percentage of black voters in the state — and the highest spoilage rate. One in 8 votes cast there in 2000 was never counted. Many voters wrote in “Al Gore.” Optical reading machines rejected these because “Al” is a “stray mark.”
By contrast, in neighboring Tallahassee, the capital, vote spoilage was nearly zip; every vote counted. The difference? In Tallahassee’s white- majority county, voters placed their ballots directly into optical scanners. If they added a stray mark, they received another ballot with instructions to correct it.
In other words, in the white county, make a mistake and get another ballot; in the black county, make a mistake, your ballot is tossed."
"An apartheid vote-counting system is far from politically neutral. Given that more than 90 percent of the black electorate votes Democratic, had all the “spoiled” votes been tallied, Gore would have taken Florida in a walk, not to mention fattening his popular vote total nationwide."
Bush was declared the winner in Florida, and the nation, by just 537 votes.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
The issue is all about the level it was pushed to by Trump and the level to which his insane supporters willingly allowed themselves to be pushed to, mostly because they thought an atmosphere existed in which they could get away with it.
Claiming you didn't lose an election and doing it in an intelligent, thoughtful way and using credible evidence to support your position is a far cry from endlessly braying like a jackass about it at rallies after having convinced a mob to storm the capitol in an attempted coup.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello cawacko,
The OP is spot on. The claim is supported by real news stories:
"It’s a sad refrain, really. Republicans across the country who lost their elections still refuse to accept the fact that they were defeated because more people voted for their opponent. Nope, they say – the election had to have been rigged. There was voter fraud.
Kelly Loeffler, who lost her runoff election against Rev. Raphael Warnock in January and was booted out of the U.S. Senate, is one of them."
Another Republican Refuses To Admit Legitimate Defeat, Calls For Election Investigation
The OP is spot on. The claim is supported by real news stories:
"It’s a sad refrain, really. Republicans across the country who lost their elections still refuse to accept the fact that they were defeated because more people voted for their opponent. Nope, they say – the election had to have been rigged. There was voter fraud.
Kelly Loeffler, who lost her runoff election against Rev. Raphael Warnock in January and was booted out of the U.S. Senate, is one of them."
Another Republican Refuses To Admit Legitimate Defeat, Calls For Election Investigation
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
It's still too early to make that claim.
We'll see in the next coupla few election cycles.
Sure he did, none of the examples you cited worked endlessly to perpetuate what they believed, especially when personally they didn’t believe it, nor fund raised off of it, or employed it to mobilize an attack on anyone or anything.
Sure others cast doubt, but Trump is in a class all his own
BidenPresident
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Anyone supporting Trump supports the violent overthrow of government.
cawacko
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The subject line is "Trump spawned a new era of sore losers who won't accept defeat" yet the article gave no examples of this happening post the 2020 election. Nor was 2020 the first time we've had sore losers.
Most agree Trump took losing to the next level but that's not really the topic, at least according to the subject line.
BidenPresident
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You love pretending you are a rational conservative. But you're just another Trump sucker lying about the election.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
I suppose if you engage in semantics you can pick apart just about anything anyone says.
I think the point is that after his loss, the behavior Trump has engaged in has encouraged his followers to continue the sore loserism and possibly take it to the next level, whatever that may be.
Again, it will take a couple of election cycles to see if it's true or not.
BidenPresident
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It is obvious that Trump used violence before and would use violence again.
Trump sets a bad example for the youth of our country too, by being a whiney ass sore and cheat too?!! In the real world, you win some and you lose some?!! Are we in the era of not accepting defeat now?
Again, though, whatever happened to accepting defeat graciously? Are we as a society at a point where every person who loses from now on will question the legitimacy of the results, will cry “foul,”will claim that the election was rigged?
[FONT=&]Of course, some of you are asking “How can you ask such a question in a country still rent in two by a former president who won’t accept that he lost?”
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[FONT=&]Former President Trump is by no means the first politician to reject his or her defeat, but he has elevated not taking “no” to low art.
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[FONT=&]Why, when I lost my race for Rockingham City Council, no one heard me braying about a rigged election or questioning the integrity of election officials.
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[FONT=&]Of course, it would have been hard to contest an election in which you received 14 votes.
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[FONT=&]True grace is knowing how to accept defeat graciously even when you have a legitimate beef.
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[FONT=&]Al Gore, despite reasonable doubt about election integrity in Florida in 2000, realized that his winning the presidency was less important than America demonstrating to the rest of the world how we move on, even after a contentious election.
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[FONT=&]Even Richard Nixon, who lost by a rat’s toenail length to JFK in 1960, publicly appeared to graciously accept his painful defeat. Later accounts from people who worked with him say that behind the scenes, though, Nixon was encouraging efforts to question or overturn the results.
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[FONT=&]But at least he didn’t try to destroy the country, end democracy or send his followers to storm the Capitol.
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[FONT=&]Lil Nas, Levar, Trump, et al, when facing a result they don’t like, should remember the words of Mick Jagger, who said “You can’t always get what you want.”
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[FONT=&]Or of whoever said “If at first you don’t succeed — find out if the loser gets anything.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sore-losers-donald-trump-yet-083000393.html
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That's exactly it. The GOP wants to rule from the minority. They are fascists.
BidenPresident
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I hope people will watch this hearing. It is obvious Trump never believed he won. It was a coup from the very beginning.
Trump sets a bad example for the youth of our country too, by being a whiney ass sore loser and cheat too?!! In the real world, you win some and you lose some?!! Are we in the era of not accepting defeat now?
Again, though, whatever happened to accepting defeat graciously? Are we as a society at a point where every person who loses from now on will question the legitimacy of the results, will cry “foul,”will claim that the election was rigged?
[FONT=&]Of course, some of you are asking “How can you ask such a question in a country still rent in two by a former president who won’t accept that he lost?”
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[FONT=&]Former President Trump is by no means the first politician to reject his or her defeat, but he has elevated not taking “no” to low art.
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[FONT=&]Why, when I lost my race for Rockingham City Council, no one heard me braying about a rigged election or questioning the integrity of election officials.
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[FONT=&]Of course, it would have been hard to contest an election in which you received 14 votes.
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[FONT=&]True grace is knowing how to accept defeat graciously even when you have a legitimate beef.
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[FONT=&]Al Gore, despite reasonable doubt about election integrity in Florida in 2000, realized that his winning the presidency was less important than America demonstrating to the rest of the world how we move on, even after a contentious election.
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[FONT=&]Even Richard Nixon, who lost by a rat’s toenail length to JFK in 1960, publicly appeared to graciously accept his painful defeat. Later accounts from people who worked with him say that behind the scenes, though, Nixon was encouraging efforts to question or overturn the results.
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[FONT=&]But at least he didn’t try to destroy the country, end democracy or send his followers to storm the Capitol.
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[FONT=&]Lil Nas, Levar, Trump, et al, when facing a result they don’t like, should remember the words of Mick Jagger, who said “You can’t always get what you want.”
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[FONT=&]Or of whoever said “If at first you don’t succeed — find out if the loser gets anything.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sore-losers-donald-trump-yet-083000393.html
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Who "SPAWNED"AL GORE and HILLARY CLINTON?
Bowers was a very powerful witness.