Trump gubmint shut-down to backfire, Dems springing trap after Jan 3d Takeover

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Democrats to Box In Trump With Plan to End Government Shutdown Without Wall Funding

WASHINGTON — House Democrats are putting forward a proposal to reopen the federal government by severing funding for the Department of Homeland Security and border security from other spending bills that enjoy bipartisan support — a gambit aimed at forcing President Trump to negotiate or to shoulder the blame for a protracted shutdown.

The Democrats’ plan, which will come up for a vote on Thursday when they take control of the House, consists of two bills. The first includes six bipartisan spending measures that would fully fund agencies like the Interior Department and the Internal Revenue Service through the end of the fiscal year in September.

The second would extend homeland security funding at current levels through Feb. 8, including $1.3 billion for fencing but no funding for Mr. Trump’s border wall — a provision that renders it dead on arrival in the Republican-controlled Senate.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/us/politics/government-shutdown-democrats-house.html


tough shit Benedict!
 
You mean the Schumer shutdown.

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Legion said:
You mean the Schumer shutdown.
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oh you bet Lesion!

“You want to know something? I’ll take it,” Trump said. “Yes, if we don’t get what we want one way or the other, whether it’s through you, through military, through anything you want to call — I will shut down the government. I am proud to shut down the government. I will take the mantle.”
 
reagansghost said:
Democrats to Box In Trump With Plan to End Government Shutdown Without Wall Funding

WASHINGTON — House Democrats are putting forward a proposal to reopen the federal government by severing funding for the Department of Homeland Security and border security from other spending bills that enjoy bipartisan support — a gambit aimed at forcing President Trump to negotiate or to shoulder the blame for a protracted shutdown.

The Democrats’ plan, which will come up for a vote on Thursday when they take control of the House, consists of two bills. The first includes six bipartisan spending measures that would fully fund agencies like the Interior Department and the Internal Revenue Service through the end of the fiscal year in September.

The second would extend homeland security funding at current levels through Feb. 8, including $1.3 billion for fencing but no funding for Mr. Trump’s border wall — a provision that renders it dead on arrival in the Republican-controlled Senate.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/us/politics/government-shutdown-democrats-house.html


tough shit Benedict!
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will the senate pass it?......
 
reagansghost said:
Democrats to Box In Trump With Plan to End Government Shutdown Without Wall Funding

WASHINGTON — House Democrats are putting forward a proposal to reopen the federal government by severing funding for the Department of Homeland Security and border security from other spending bills that enjoy bipartisan support — a gambit aimed at forcing President Trump to negotiate or to shoulder the blame for a protracted shutdown.

The Democrats’ plan, which will come up for a vote on Thursday when they take control of the House, consists of two bills. The first includes six bipartisan spending measures that would fully fund agencies like the Interior Department and the Internal Revenue Service through the end of the fiscal year in September.

The second would extend homeland security funding at current levels through Feb. 8, including $1.3 billion for fencing but no funding for Mr. Trump’s border wall — a provision that renders it dead on arrival in the Republican-controlled Senate.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/us/politics/government-shutdown-democrats-house.html


tough shit Benedict!
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Well, trump has McConnell as a buffer. What will the turtle do?
 
reagansghost said:
Democrats to Box In Trump With Plan to End Government Shutdown Without Wall Funding

WASHINGTON — House Democrats are putting forward a proposal to reopen the federal government by severing funding for the Department of Homeland Security and border security from other spending bills that enjoy bipartisan support — a gambit aimed at forcing President Trump to negotiate or to shoulder the blame for a protracted shutdown.

The Democrats’ plan, which will come up for a vote on Thursday when they take control of the House, consists of two bills. The first includes six bipartisan spending measures that would fully fund agencies like the Interior Department and the Internal Revenue Service through the end of the fiscal year in September.

The second would extend homeland security funding at current levels through Feb. 8, including $1.3 billion for fencing but no funding for Mr. Trump’s border wall — a provision that renders it dead on arrival in the Republican-controlled Senate.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/us/politics/government-shutdown-democrats-house.html


tough shit Benedict!
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I don't give a shit who takes the blame, you're saying they'll shut down the fucking IRS???!!!:shock: Whoever takes the "blame" is my hero!
 
here's the thing, everyone in America, including you nut-bags, know that the government is shutdown because the Senate Democrats are obstructing the will of the people.
That's not even debatable.

The Democrats are about to sow a seed, in additional obstructionism with more "investigations", they may never recover from. They just can't help themselves
 
Nobody really cares about the supposed gobblement shutdown except leftistas and beltway types
If I didn’t see a post or two about it on JPP I would’nt even know it is happening.

Not one JPP leftista can articulate how their life has been negatively impacted by this supposed shutdown.
 
Getin the ring said:
here's the thing, everyone in America, including you nut-bags, know that the government is shutdown because the Senate Democrats are obstructing the will of the people.
That's not even debatable.

The Democrats are about to sow a seed, in additional obstructionism with more "investigations", they may never recover from. They just can't help themselves
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Not according to Donald Trump. Donald Trump says HE is the reason.

And how can you consider the wall to be "the will of the people?"

MOST people do not support it...and MOST people voted against the moron who suggested he was going to get Mexico to fund it.
 
Getin the ring said:
here's the thing, everyone in America, including you nut-bags, know that the government is shutdown because the Senate Democrats are obstructing the will of the people.
That's not even debatable.

The Democrats are about to sow a seed, in additional obstructionism with more "investigations", they may never recover from. They just can't help themselves
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It's "not even debatable" only if one is trying to debate with a lying piece of worm shit like you.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
will the senate pass it?......
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jimmymccready said:
The Senate will pass the House bill if McConnell believes the Pres will sign.
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PostmodernProphet said:
so you're saying its all a waste of time unless it provides funding for the wall.....
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All that is needed to override a Presidential veto is for a 2/3 supermajority to vote in favor of a bill, upon which it would automatically become law without the President's signature.

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I'm sure McConnell knows this.

Given that 100% of Democrats in both houses are certain to vote for a spending bill that reopens the govt without funding for Trump's boondoggle wall, all that would be required to pay it, is a handful of Republican votes, enough to get to 2/3 majority.

If McConnell is claiming that the reason he won't send a bill to Trump which he knows Trump wouldn't sign, he's just covering his party's asses for not being a responsible enough governing body to put partisan, gutter politics asde for the good of the nation.

IOW, just more typical Republican bullshit.
 
This is extortion. Trump is using 800,000 federal worker's jobs to get his payoff, a useless $5B 'wall' campaign promise to his illiterate base.

The Dems will not cave to this extortion attempt, Donnie's fucked.
 
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