Trump falsely claims 'millions of people who voted illegally' cost him popular vote

tsuke said:
of course its not firmly there. Alienating them and demanding recounts and saying "notmypresident" helps by seperating them further from the coast:)

Trump will be focused a lot on the midwest. Bannon is a very good strategist as well so even if Trump f's up he is the back up.

Again not firmly there. I acknowledge that. I also acknowledge that the Dems want to change nothing :) which is good.
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Re: the bolded. It does not. It absolutely does not. You are projecting your own feelings about it onto people who are generally not ideological and vote for a lot of complex reasons.
 
Thing1 said:
And please - do not forget how strongly the changing demographics will work against the GOP with each passing year.
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i think you will find there is a hard limit to latinos. Like the thought from both sides is that illegal immigration is the defining issue for them so the side that is in favor of it will get them. True but not to the level of blacks. Like there is a significant portion of them that is against it because of all the hardwork they did to get in and the fact that they have no illegal relatives. The more generations you are seperated from the initial immigrant the more you fall into the second camp.

but i do acknowledge the point and the 2 seats i think are in danger are the NV and AZ ones.
 
Thing1 said:
I don't see anyone (except maybe desh) who doesn't understand the electoral and that Trump won because that's how it works.

But I do see a lot of conservatives trying to dismiss the idea that the popular vote is significant. More Americans voted against Trump. For actually electing him, it means nothing - for the way he should govern & whether he has a mandate, it means everything.
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Says who?
 
tsuke said:
i think you will find there is a hard limit to latinos. Like the thought from both sides is that illegal immigration is the defining issue for them so the side that is in favor of it will get them. True but not to the level of blacks. Like there is a significant portion of them that is against it because of all the hardwork they did to get in and the fact that they have no illegal relatives. The more generations you are seperated from the initial immigrant the more you fall into the second camp.
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Latinos are also macho and their men don't like voting for a woman. Lots of latinas feel the same. It's an important point that the controlled media covered up because they like to think all non-whites are knee-jerk libs like themselves.
 
Fraudulent voting is everywhere but most americans don't care because they figure both sides do it and it balances out. But that is NOT the case with illegal aliens. Lots of good, hard-working hispanics in this world but illegals are 90% unskilled, illiterate welfare trash and they always vote for the welfare party. Obama told them go right ahead and vote - I ain't gwine stop yous.
 
Damocles said:
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Well, we all know that the DOJ would not prosecute, if this is true, and we know that Loretta Lynch is a worthless POS. So, now we just need a real AG, and if nothing comes of it under Sessions, then we can assume there's no merit to the charge.
 
Yep yep. All that time spent in small states, Donny. Small states like Florida, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Tiny tiny states graced with your presence.
 
tsuke said:
because its not. Your margins come from NY an CA and Trump or at least bannon is already actively working to screw over NY to turn it red in 8 or so years.

At this point Trump and other GOP people could care less about those states because they are not going to win them anyway. You deligitimize Trump etc not my president blah blah which just reinforces to ohio Pa and THE OTHER STATES YOU NEED TO WIN that you consider yourself seperate from them further alienating them from you.

Everything done so far by the dems say they dont understand electoral, senatorial, or even congressional math.

Until you change it by ammendment you have to play with the rules as written.
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Clinton didn't just do well in California and New York. She also did unusually well in Texas and Georgia. Their voices were nullified by the electoral college, because they were outnumbered by ignorant racist hicks.
 
The will of the people is all that matters. Not some words written on a scrap of paper. Trump wishes to govern without the consent of the governed. Let's see how well that goes for him.
 
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