Trump dominated and humiliated the EU Publicly | Fyodor Lukyanov

Agreeing with Russian government on a given point doesn't make someone a "Russian propagandist". If that were true, I'd be a "propagandist" of a lot of countries. To give an example where I -don't- agree with Russia, I'm not a fan of their policies on LGBT rights:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Russia

That doesn't mean I'm "anti-Russian", it just means I don't agree with them on a fair amount of their LGBT policies.
When you take Russia's side in a war they started, you're a propagandist.

Plenty of evidence that this war was -not- started by Russia. As to who -did- start it, I'd say the blame for it lies squarely on the shoulders of the west, in particular the United States. The aggressive expansion of NATO east of Germany was the start. The west's participation in Euromaidan, which led to Victor Yanukovych, the elected President of Ukraine fleeing for his life to Russia could be seen as the middle. The last straw was Ukraine's renewed assault on the Donbass Republics literally days before Russia finally decided to start its military operation in Ukraine. Some good articles on the subject:


 
Plenty of evidence that this war was -not- started by Russia. As to who -did- start it, I'd say the blame for it lies squarely on the shoulders of the west, in particular the United States. The aggressive expansion of NATO east of Germany was the start. The west's participation in Euromaidan, which led to Victor Yanukovych, the elected President of Ukraine fleeing for his life to Russia could be seen as the middle. The last straw was Ukraine's renewed assault on the Donbass Republics literally days before Russia finally decided to start its military operation in Ukraine. Some good articles on the subject:


NO! I'm not putting up with this nonsense. Dude! Kids are being kidnapped and raped by Putin. People do not wish to be kidnapped, raped and murdered - their infrastructure destroyed. Knock you're trolling shit off! It's fucking lame.
 
Agreeing with Russian government on a given point doesn't make someone a "Russian propagandist". If that were true, I'd be a "propagandist" of a lot of countries. To give an example where I -don't- agree with Russia, I'm not a fan of their policies on LGBT rights:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Russia

That doesn't mean I'm "anti-Russian", it just means I don't agree with them on a fair amount of their LGBT policies.
When you take Russia's side in a war they started...
When you insist Russia started a war that they are attempting to finish, you reveal that you are a moron...

Does this mean you agree with me that Russia didn't really start this war?
 
I'm dubious. You are citing Wikipedia for a political issue, which means, flat out, there is heavy dishonesty going on.

LGBT is a socially destructive and often violent movement that wages aggressive, hateful lawfare and surges of violence against Christians who never did anything to them, all the while bitching and moaning and griping and screaming and sniveling and crying like fucking babies that they are totally oppressed victims whenever their supremacy is even challenged.

In the United States, Christians have no choice but to bend over and take it because our Constitution guarantees everyone's right to be lawfare-wielding assholes who will team up with Marxists in key government positions to destroy any Christian-run businesses and ruin the lives of any Christians they can. Russia, however, is not the US and they are simply not going to allow that kind of lawfare and other behavior, sometimes violent, that Russia sees occurring as the norm across Europe, to seep into Russia. The Russian Supreme Court decision was an act of protecting Russia's society in the same way Trump's tariffs are an act of protecting America's economy.

But please check YouTube and notice that all you will find is the "Permanent Victim" LGBT-supremacy propaganda, and absolutely nothing about Russia's concerns for their citizens and their society. I suspect you have fallen for the propaganda and the dishonesty.
Didn't know you hate LGBT that much.

Nice rant and bigotry.
 
The article from which this thread gets its name is the editor-in-chief of Russia in Global Affairs, but what he said is closely mirrored by what I suspect is an American author whose substack name is Simplicius. I'll put them both below. First, Fyodor's article:

Quoting the introduction to Fyodor's article below:
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From a theatrical point of view, Monday’s Washington summit between US President Donald Trump and Western Europe’s leaders was a vivid spectacle. Each official played their role, some with greater skill than others. But behind the carefully staged performance, the real story emerged: the region’s inability to act as a political entity in its own right.

Contrary to media spin, the meeting was not about Ukraine. Attempts to resolve the crisis continue, but its outcome will ultimately be decided not in Brussels or Berlin, but by non-European powers. The real lesson from Washington lay in the display of Western Europe’s dependence.


Daddy in the Oval Office

Every move by these Western European leaders was aimed at one goal: not angering the American president. In the words of NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, Trump has become “Daddy” – a figure to be placated with smiles, tributes, and flattery. Leaders compared notes on how best to manage his moods, even down to reportedly advising Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky on what to wear, what to say, and how to thank him.

This might sound absurd. But that is the political reality of the transatlantic relationship. The EU no longer acts with autonomy. Its politics revolve around managing the temper of a man in Washington.

Of course, Trump’s personality is unique, but it would be a mistake to reduce the issue to character. The essence is deeper: Western Europe has suddenly realized the scale of its strategic, political and economic dependence on the United States. Put bluntly, the half-continent can do very little without America – even in matters that directly touch its own interests.

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Now for Simplicius' article:

Quoting the introduction to his article below:
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The troupe arrived to “daddy’s” DC office for their official dressing down. If nothing else, we must marvel at the fact that the meeting produced some of the most remarkable political optics, perhaps, in history:

[photos in original article]

Has there ever been anything like this? The entire pantheon of the European ruling class reduced to sniveling children in their school principal’s office. No one can deny that Trump has succeeded in veritably ‘breaking Europe over his knee’. There is no coming back from this turning point moment, the optics simply cannot be redeemed.

But even snide ridicule aside, objectively speaking, we must point to how absolutely defeated and low-energy the delegation looked. Just gander at the body language of ‘eminent statesmen’ like Emmanuel Macron and Alexander Stubb in this photo op meant to convey collegial solidarity and allied ‘authority’:


[1 minute video in original article]

Hands in pockets, looks of mild confusion or disinterest, vacant eyes, and that bizarre ‘dead-space’ atmosphere like a “TV tuned to a dead station” (hat tip Mr. Gibson). It’s clear that no one wants to be there, and everyone knows the artificial charade looks and feels forced. The real punchline comes at the 1:00 mark where it becomes eminently obvious the entire hollow exercise is nothing more than an ego-stroke for the cunning Ringmaster himself, as he bids his abject pupils to veer their gaze at the carefully-situated artwork presiding over the gilded humiliation ritual.

Volumes could be written on the implications of such a low point in European influence. But we’ll suffice with concluding that it’s clear the matter of the Ukrainian conflict’s resolution is of such existential importance to the behind-the-scenes cabal which writes the Euro-puppets’ orders, that this cabal is willing to risk everything, including politically sacrificing its “compradors” posing as elected leaders.

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Constructive comments welcome.
Objectively speaking, I think that European leaders are fully aware that TACO is the most insecure, impotent "leader" that the mightiest state on the planet has ever elected. They know that his office wields tremendous power even as he misuses it like a 10-year-old with a hundred dollar bill in a candy store. He is a global laughing stock. He also -- through his bureaucracy -- controls a lot of things. So they will show up and smile at him and pretend not to notice the cheeseburger grease on his cheap clothes because they know -- like all good Americans know -- that he will fade into historical disgrace. Then the world can resume the normal order of progress, civility, decency, and literacy. No one humiliated the Europeans. They tolerated TACO like adults tolerate a toddler throwing a tantrum in a grocery store. They played him and humiliated him after he fellated Putin on American soil.
 
Putin has no intention of stopping his war. The day Trump met with the Europeans, he launched a massive attack on Ukraine. That was Putin's, fuck you message.
I don't understand how someone like Scott who seems like he might be intelligent doesn't comprehend that TACO got his ass handed to him on two consecutive weekdays: Once by the Russian despot and once again by the Europeans.
 
European leaders, who mostly do not represent their people or care about their people, keep writing checks their butts cant cash.

They must learn their place.
Speaking of remembering your place, shouldn't you be struggling to breathe underneath Toxic's 2-ton thighs as she slugs rubbing alcohol and farts in your mouth?
 
Does this mean you agree with me that Russia didn't really start this war?
That depends on how much you agree with me that the current flare-up (current invasion of Ukraine by Russia) is actually a continuation of a larger ongoing, more complex conflict, only part of which is an ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine as well as with other components being ongoing conflicts between Russia and Europe, and between Russia and NATO. All of these components have Ukraine geography as a common element.
 
I suspect it may be best to just agree to disagree for the most part.
I remain convinced that you fell for the Wikipedia disinformation. You believe that Russia's rejection of LBGT-supremacy is somehow an oppressive crackdown.

I've decided that this subject deserves a thread of its own, so I've made one. I detail what I believe in said thread, which can be seen here:
 
Plenty of evidence that this war was -not- started by Russia. As to who -did- start it, I'd say the blame for it lies squarely on the shoulders of the west, in particular the United States. The aggressive expansion of NATO east of Germany was the start. The west's participation in Euromaidan, which led to Victor Yanukovych, the elected President of Ukraine fleeing for his life to Russia could be seen as the middle. The last straw was Ukraine's renewed assault on the Donbass Republics literally days before Russia finally decided to start its military operation in Ukraine. Some good articles on the subject:


Ah, I was resisting my intuition, but you made your pro-Russian, anti-American sentiments very clear here. You're just another Hawkeye. I should be the first to tell you that neither of you are respected by anyone who posts here. Stick to denying that viruses. You were better at that.
 
False. Why do you push propaganda?
What I wrote is entirely true. Why do you push HATEFUL propaganda?

The LGBT has been hated on and discriminated against.
That's just the LGBT-supremacy "Professional Eternal Victim" narrative. The truth is that the LGBT movement is HATEFUL and destructive, and if it were removed from this earth, the planet would be so much better, having been rid of all the HATE and active lawfare against Christians who never did anything against any of them.
 
What I wrote is entirely true. Why do you push HATEFUL propaganda?


That's just the LGBT-supremacy "Professional Eternal Victim" narrative. The truth is that the LGBT movement is HATEFUL and destructive, and if it were removed from this earth, the planet would be so much better, having been rid of all the HATE and active lawfare against Christians who never did anything against any of them.
I take it to mean you're angry. Something must have happened.
 
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