Trump Desperately Tried To Get Pence To Illegally Steal Election

Getting your information from CNN makes you uninformed and stupid. There was no desperation. That's a strawman. Yes, Trump tried to press Pence to not certify the election and send it back to the states to ensure there was no fraud. That isn't illegal.

The states had already ensured there was no fraud and they still haven't found any. There was a procedure to challenge accepting a state's electoral votes and the Republicans did not have the support to do that for any state.
 
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Hello Lurch,



I concur. the part of the left that wants to display hatred toward the right is over-represented on discussion forums. I really think a lot of the left just wants pretty much little to nothing to do with politics in general because they find it so distasteful.

We few who come in here are not a representative cross-section of America.

Not possible to effect change and no take part in politics. I think most people on the left who takes part in these forums might blow off steam in their posts, but when it comes down to it, would join any coalition with people on the right and foment compromise.

I think most people on the right who take part in these forums truly are full of hate. They way they promote guns while celebrating the loss of human rights. Most people on the right who take part in these forums I've found to be total assholes.
The alternative is another Civil War, and I feel most people, even if they "talk tough" about it, don't want that.
 
Simple top line here. The President of the United States attempted to coerce his VP to commit an act he KNEW was a criminal act, and when the VP refused, Trump tried to have a mob kill him. Multiple crimes.

Trump did not want Pence to illegally steal the election.
 
That's what they always try to do. Pivot to BLM and last summer, as if I, from my armchair at home was commanding people to riot.

Inversion fallacy. YOU try to pivot what Democrats have been doing to Trump. It is DEMOCRATS that caused the election to fault through election fraud. It is DEMOCRATS that were attacking the police (and still do!). It is DEMOCRATS that conducted the coup.
 
It's all because they want to be able to hate gays and minorities and say the "n" word. The "woke" won't let them. That's where it all comes from. White supremacy and scapegoating all their ills onto others.

It's the Nazi playbook and the current GOP, including twump, Bannon, Flynn, Stone, Meadows, Steven Miller, Rudy, and others have embraced.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You are REALLY GOING to try all these meaningless buzzword AGAIN??????????!?

You have NO idea what fascism is, dumbass. The Liberal language doesn't work here.
 
I think the thing that makes the racist right so angry is that the left reminds them of the wrongs which have been done, the things they are trying very hard to pretend were OK.

Slavery was not OK.

Racism is a response to slavery, a way to mask feelings of guilt, a way to redefine a shameful past, a less than noble heritage.

If someone is trying very hard to ignore something troubling, and they do not wish to face up to it, yet they are reminded of it by others, it is entirely predictable that they would become very angry at those who are doing the reminding.

That is why the white supremacist right brailles so adamantly at any discussion of racism.

You are describing yourself again.
 
The states had already ensured there was no fraud and they still haven't found any. There was a procedure to challenge accepting a state's electoral votes and the Republicans did not have the support to do that for any state.

Lie. You cannot wish the evidence away, dude.
 
I agree with you except I don't feel "the left want to retaliate with hatred". I feel most of the left would be fine without any.

It is DEMOCRATS that fund violent factions like Antifa, BLM, and the KKK. All hate groups.
It is DEMOCRATS that fought to continue slavery (and would still like to implement it).
It is DEMOCRATS that are racists and bigots.
It is DEMOCRATS that are socialists (including communism, fascism, AND slavery!).
It is DEMOCRATS that persecute just out of pure hate.
It is DEMOCRATS that use violent thugs to intimidate.
It is DEMOCRATS that support murdering your own offspring.
It is DEMOCRATS that throw most of the insults around here.
It is DEMOCRATS that hate.
 
I've been unable to have conversations with Trump supporters here because they can't do it without unleashing their hatred, and I refuse to become their enabler.
No, it is because you refuse to have conversations with them. You quickly put them on ignore.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You are REALLY GOING to try all these meaningless buzzword AGAIN??????????!?

You have NO idea what fascism is, dumbass. The Liberal language doesn't work here.

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Inversion fallacy. YOU try to pivot what Democrats have been doing to Trump. It is DEMOCRATS that caused the election to fault through election fraud. It is DEMOCRATS that were attacking the police (and still do!). It is DEMOCRATS that conducted the coup.

There was no election fraud, other than that perpetuated by Republicans in 2020. Biden's our president. You are full of shit. If you have evidence there was fraud in 2020 post it right here now.
 
It is DEMOCRATS that fund violent factions like Antifa, BLM, and the KKK. All hate groups.
It is DEMOCRATS that fought to continue slavery (and would still like to implement it).
It is DEMOCRATS that are racists and bigots.
It is DEMOCRATS that are socialists (including communism, fascism, AND slavery!).
It is DEMOCRATS that persecute just out of pure hate.
It is DEMOCRATS that use violent thugs to intimidate.
It is DEMOCRATS that support murdering your own offspring.
It is DEMOCRATS that throw most of the insults around here.
It is DEMOCRATS that hate.

The Democrats in the 1960's all became Republicans when we tried to segregate your schools. You racists all screamed like stuck pigs your kids would have to go to school with dirty black kids - so what did you do? You all changed parties to Republican.

There was no election fraud, other than that perpetuated by Republicans in 2020. Biden's our president. You are full of shit. If you have evidence there was fraud in 2020 post it right here now.

The Democrats are the non-racists now. It's the Repubulicans all cozying up to white supremacists and spewing racist hate now.

And you are one of them.

Fuck you.
 
There was no election fraud, other than that perpetuated by Republicans in 2020.
LIF. No, you cannot project YOUR problems on the Republicans.
Biden's our president.
No. He was never elected.
You are full of shit.
Inversion fallacy. You are describing yourself again.
If you have evidence there was fraud in 2020 post it right here now.
Already did. Pay attention. RQAA.
 
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