“Trump campaign paid researchers to prove 2020 fraud”

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“Former president Donald Trump’s 2020 campaign commissioned an outside research firm in a bid to prove electoral-fraud claims. The campaign paid researchers from Berkeley Research Group, the people said, to study 2020 election results in six states, looking for fraud and irregularities to highlight in public and in the courts. Among the areas examined were voter machine malfunctions, instances of dead people voting and any evidence that could help Trump show he won”

“A dozen people at the firm worked on the report, including econometricians, who use statistics to model and predict outcomes, the people said. They looked at everything: change of addresses, illegal immigrants, ballot harvesting, people voting twice, machines being tampered with, ballots that were sent to vacant addresses that were returned and voted. Literally anything you could think of, voter turnout anomalies, date of birth anomalies, whether dead people voted. If there was anything under the sun that could be thought of, they looked at it.”


“The findings were not what the Trump campaign had been hoping. While the researchers believed there were voting anomalies and unusual data patterns in a few states, along with some instances in which laws may have been skirted, they did not believe the anomalies were significant enough to make a difference in who won the election.
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“The research also contradicted some of Trump’s more conspiratorial theories, such as his baseless allegations about rigged voting machines and large numbers of dead people voting.
 Just like any election, there are always errors, omissions and irregularities. It was nowhere close enough to what they wanted to prove, and it actually went in both directions.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/11/trump-campaign-report-electoral-fraud/

Let’s see now, we’ve been thru umpteen losing lawsuits, a Barr investigation, Congressional investigations, State recounts and Trump inspired State recounts, pillow guy and Rudi, money incentives to come forth with evidence, Fox talking heads recanting, and now even a Trump paid research effort, and nothing, zilch, zero proof Trump won

But, but, but, there’s proof
 
“Former president Donald Trump’s 2020 campaign commissioned an outside research firm in a bid to prove electoral-fraud claims. The campaign paid researchers from Berkeley Research Group, the people said, to study 2020 election results in six states, looking for fraud and irregularities to highlight in public and in the courts. Among the areas examined were voter machine malfunctions, instances of dead people voting and any evidence that could help Trump show he won”

“A dozen people at the firm worked on the report, including econometricians, who use statistics to model and predict outcomes, the people said. They looked at everything: change of addresses, illegal immigrants, ballot harvesting, people voting twice, machines being tampered with, ballots that were sent to vacant addresses that were returned and voted. Literally anything you could think of, voter turnout anomalies, date of birth anomalies, whether dead people voted. If there was anything under the sun that could be thought of, they looked at it.”


“The findings were not what the Trump campaign had been hoping. While the researchers believed there were voting anomalies and unusual data patterns in a few states, along with some instances in which laws may have been skirted, they did not believe the anomalies were significant enough to make a difference in who won the election.
“

“The research also contradicted some of Trump’s more conspiratorial theories, such as his baseless allegations about rigged voting machines and large numbers of dead people voting.
 Just like any election, there are always errors, omissions and irregularities. It was nowhere close enough to what they wanted to prove, and it actually went in both directions.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/11/trump-campaign-report-electoral-fraud/

Let’s see now, we’ve been thru umpteen losing lawsuits, a Barr investigation, Congressional investigations, State recounts and Trump inspired State recounts, pillow guy and Rudi, money incentives to come forth with evidence, Fox talking heads recanting, and now even a Trump paid research effort, and nothing, zilch, zero proof Trump won

But, but, but, there’s proof

And you think this means there was no fraud.
 
And you think this means there was no fraud.

Fraud, sure, but nowhere enough to come close to swinging an election, Trump’s own research team showed it, along with numerous other sources in addition to the ones I mentioned above. And even where it existed, it was found to fall on both sides

Trump was a loser, even the die hard solipsist would accept that reality
 
Fraud, sure, but nowhere enough to come close to swinging an election, Trump’s own research team showed it, along with numerous other sources in addition to the ones I mentioned above. And even where it existed, it was found to fall on both sides

Trump was a loser, even the die hard solipsist would accept that reality

Well I must say it's good to see that you have some intellectual and moral integrity and can admit there was fraud, now its just a matter of how much. Some challenges were dismissed for procedural reasons alone but not all.
 
Well I must say it's good to see that you have some intellectual and moral integrity and can admit there was fraud, now its just a matter of how much. Some challenges were dismissed for procedural reasons alone but not all.

It has already been determined “just how much,” as Trump’s own man Billy Barr, and as we see here with the research group Trump hired, not enough to swaying or influence the election. Plus the fact you ignored, and has been documented, the fraud fell on both sides

It is over, was actually over in 2020, Trump lost, lost in a fair election, and there is no evidence anywhere proving that he didn’t
 
The republicans Republicans will kill the republican party for Trump lies


They are not very smart
 
It has already been determined “just how much,” as Trump’s own man Billy Barr, and as we see here with the research group Trump hired, not enough to swaying or influence the election. Plus the fact you ignored, and has been documented, the fraud fell on both sides

It is over, was actually over in 2020, Trump lost, lost in a fair election, and there is no evidence anywhere proving that he didn’t

Thats not the same as there is none. Here's an example. Lets say there is no law that says you must provide an ID to vote and all you need to do to vote is tell them your name and address. I lived for years in state where that is exactly all that was needed to vote. Never showed an ID. How would anyone know how many times I voted if all I need is a name and address? No one ever asked me to prove I was who I said was. No one could legitimately claim there was voter fraud since there was never a need to prove who I was.
 
The 'reasoning' goes: Trump can never lose, therefore he must have been swindled somehow. It makes sense to his dupes.

By comparison, Nixon lost the 1960 election by a narrow margin and there was certainly some election fraud. What did he do? As Vice President, he chaired the session of Congress that ratified Kennedy's win.

Can you imagine TRUMP doing that? Nixon was no angel but he had some basic honor or patriotism, call it what you like. Trump? Zilch.
 
Thats not the same as there is none. Here's an example. Lets say there is no law that says you must provide an ID to vote and all you need to do to vote is tell them your name and address. I lived for years in state where that is exactly all that was needed to vote. Never showed an ID. How would anyone know how many times I voted if all I need is a name and address? No one ever asked me to prove I was who I said was. No one could legitimately claim there was voter fraud since there was never a need to prove who I was.

I already stated, twice, fraud existed, exist in any election, fraud found on both sides, but it has been determined from all directions, even Trump’s own people, that this fraud was not enough anywhere to sway the results of the election
 
I already stated, twice, fraud existed, exist in any election, fraud found on both sides, but it has been determined from all directions, even Trump’s own people, that this fraud was not enough anywhere to sway the results of the election

You can say it 50 more times it's no more relevant to the discussion.
 
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