Trump and Clinton share Delaware tax 'loophole' address with 285,000 firms

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1209 North Orange Street in Wilmington is a nondescript two-storey building yet is home to Apple, American Airlines, Walmart and presidential candidates
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There aren’t many things upon which Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump agree, especially as they court very different Delaware voters ahead of a primary on Tuesday. But the candidates for president share an affinity for the same nondescript two-storey office building in Wilmington. A building that has become famous for helping tens of thousands of companies avoid hundreds of millions of dollars in tax through the so-called “Delaware loophole”.

The receptionist at 1209 North Orange Street isn’t surprised that a journalist has turned up unannounced on a sunny weekday afternoon.

“You know I can’t speak to you,” she says. A yellow post-it note on her computer screen reads “MEDIA: Chuck Miller” with the phone number of the company’s director of corporate communications. Miller can’t answer many questions either, except to say that the company does not advise clients on their tax affairs.

The Guardian is not the first media organisation to turn up at the offices of Corporation Trust Centre, and it’s unlikely to be the last.

This squat, yellow brick office building just north of Wilmington’s rundown downtown is the registered address of more than 285,000 companies. That’s more than any other known address in the world, and 15 times more than the 18,000 registered in Ugland House, a five-storey building in the Cayman Islands that Barack Obama called “either the biggest building in the world, or the biggest tax scam on record”.

Officially, 1209 North Orange is home to Apple, American Airlines, Coca-Cola, Walmart and dozens of other companies in the Fortune 500 list of America’s biggest companies. Being registered in Delaware lets companies take advantage of strict corporate secrecy rules, business-friendly courts and the “Delaware loophole”, which can allow companies to legally shift earnings from other states to Delaware, where they are not taxed on non-physical incomes generated outside of the state.




The loophole is said to have cost other states more than $9bn in lost taxes over the past decade and led to Delaware to be described as “one of the world’s biggest havens for tax avoidance and evasion”.

But it’s not just big corporations that have chosen to make 1209 North Orange their official home.

Both the leading candidates for president – Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump – have companies registered at 1209 North Orange, and have refused to explain why.

Clinton, who has repeatedly promised that as president she will crack down on “outrageous tax havens and loopholes that super-rich people across the world are exploiting in Panama and elsewhere”, collected more than $16m in public speaking fees and book royalties in 2014 through the doors of 1209, according to the Clintons’ tax return.

Just eight days after stepping down as secretary of state in February 2013, Clinton registered ZFS Holdings LLC at CTC’s offices. Bill Clinton set up WJC LLC, a vehicle to collect his consultation fees, at the same address in 2008.

http://www.theguardian.com/business...-tax-loophole-1209-north-orange-trump-clinton
 
Clinton, Trump -it's all the same plutocratic rule.

The loophole is said to have cost other states more than $9bn in lost taxes over the past decade and led to Delaware to be described as “one of the world’s biggest havens for tax avoidance and evasion”.
 
1209 North Orange Street in Wilmington is a nondescript two-storey building yet is home to Apple, American Airlines, Walmart and presidential candidates
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There aren’t many things upon which Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump agree, especially as they court very different Delaware voters ahead of a primary on Tuesday. But the candidates for president share an affinity for the same nondescript two-storey office building in Wilmington. A building that has become famous for helping tens of thousands of companies avoid hundreds of millions of dollars in tax through the so-called “Delaware loophole”.

The receptionist at 1209 North Orange Street isn’t surprised that a journalist has turned up unannounced on a sunny weekday afternoon.

“You know I can’t speak to you,” she says. A yellow post-it note on her computer screen reads “MEDIA: Chuck Miller” with the phone number of the company’s director of corporate communications. Miller can’t answer many questions either, except to say that the company does not advise clients on their tax affairs.

The Guardian is not the first media organisation to turn up at the offices of Corporation Trust Centre, and it’s unlikely to be the last.

This squat, yellow brick office building just north of Wilmington’s rundown downtown is the registered address of more than 285,000 companies. That’s more than any other known address in the world, and 15 times more than the 18,000 registered in Ugland House, a five-storey building in the Cayman Islands that Barack Obama called “either the biggest building in the world, or the biggest tax scam on record”.

Officially, 1209 North Orange is home to Apple, American Airlines, Coca-Cola, Walmart and dozens of other companies in the Fortune 500 list of America’s biggest companies. Being registered in Delaware lets companies take advantage of strict corporate secrecy rules, business-friendly courts and the “Delaware loophole”, which can allow companies to legally shift earnings from other states to Delaware, where they are not taxed on non-physical incomes generated outside of the state.




The loophole is said to have cost other states more than $9bn in lost taxes over the past decade and led to Delaware to be described as “one of the world’s biggest havens for tax avoidance and evasion”.

But it’s not just big corporations that have chosen to make 1209 North Orange their official home.

Both the leading candidates for president – Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump – have companies registered at 1209 North Orange, and have refused to explain why.

Clinton, who has repeatedly promised that as president she will crack down on “outrageous tax havens and loopholes that super-rich people across the world are exploiting in Panama and elsewhere”, collected more than $16m in public speaking fees and book royalties in 2014 through the doors of 1209, according to the Clintons’ tax return.

Just eight days after stepping down as secretary of state in February 2013, Clinton registered ZFS Holdings LLC at CTC’s offices. Bill Clinton set up WJC LLC, a vehicle to collect his consultation fees, at the same address in 2008.

http://www.theguardian.com/business...-tax-loophole-1209-north-orange-trump-clinton

Hey man, I have already started a thread on this using the exact same article!!

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...y-just-go-to-Delaware!!&p=1597518#post1597518
 
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yes. and I didn't see it. But you changed the title to "americans"=Panama =Delaware.
What is more important ( being in an elsction) is the title I used directly from the article shows Clinton and Trump are both 2 sides of the same oligarchy coin.

Hmm, is that a sorry?
 
The power to incorporate should be taken away from states. There should be a single national incorporation law. Corporations not recognized under it should be prohibited from doing business here.
 
My family is from Del this policy has served the state well for a long time

I have two lawyer buddies that I saw wrote about this on facebook. Both said the article was a hit piece. They say Delaware has the most straightforward and easy to use system set up for corporations to use which is why half of U.S. corps register there. They said there is nothing nefarious behind it.

I don't have the knowledge to speak personally on the system but if this was really a scandal seems it would have come out into the open years ago.
 
I have two lawyer buddies that I saw wrote about this on facebook. Both said the article was a hit piece. They say Delaware has the most straightforward and easy to use system set up for corporations to use which is why half of U.S. corps register there. They said there is nothing nefarious behind it.

I don't have the knowledge to speak personally on the system but if this was really a scandal seems it would have come out into the open years ago.

Yeah, cause this isn't an oligarchy or anything, lol
 
I have two lawyer buddies that I saw wrote about this on facebook. Both said the article was a hit piece. They say Delaware has the most straightforward and easy to use system set up for corporations to use which is why half of U.S. corps register there. They said there is nothing nefarious behind it.

I don't have the knowledge to speak personally on the system but if this was really a scandal seems it would have come out into the open years ago.

As I said, business friendly.
 
My tax lawyer buddy emailed me back after I asked him about Delaware tax laws and loopholes. This is what he said:


""There was a state tax game to be played by setting up an IP holding company in Delaware (or another non-tax state) and having sister entities in high-tax states pay big royalties to the haven state company to minimize net income in the high-tax state. But several years ago there was a Supreme Court ruling that gave the high-tax states a path to tax the IP holding company’s income and I don’t think that particular tax abuse is popular any longer. Delaware’s main appeal is indeed its business-friendly legal system.""
 
IMO this is a case of the smear job by implication. This was as far as I know, circulated by the pitchfork left. Until now those cranks are the only ones I've heard this from. I've received lots of texts and emails from the cranks on the left, some of whom unfortunately I'm sort of friends with. Most of them don't actually work, I have to be honest. They're either professional activists or professional protesters or on some sort of gravy program. I mean, not gravy exactly, these are not people living high on the hog by any means. But they by no means know jackshit about business I can tell you that. I've found that you have to investigate the bs passed around by the pitchfork left just as hard as you do by the kooky right. You will often find they meet! I agree with Cawacko here.
 
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