Trade Wars Are Easy To Win. Just Ask The Farmers

Bill said:
Will that "relief" cover all of their costs & losses?? How many will be forced out of business as a result?
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Why do you care? They don't vote for the idiots you support anyway? You think they're low IQ morons like you and will change their votes now? :laugh:
 
Althea said:
Indeed. It started with the milk industry. Gone are family farms. Big Ag wants fewer, larger milk producers.

Now it's dirt farmers.

trump has 30% of the country believing that China is paying billions in tariffs, and a portion of that goes to farmers. You know the lie is too ludicrous for prime time, when Neil Cavuto comes right out and calls you a liar on Fox.

I saw Levon numerous times, including at his barn in Woodstock. Great loss for humanity. This was done just before his passing
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Ran a FACT CHECK on this and came up with PURE BS.

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Phantasmal said:
Relief won’t recover the markets they’ve lost. The markets that have taken decades to build. I feel really bad for my friends and family in KS, the hog and corn markets are also suffering.
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LIE and LAME. How about a factual link for a change instead of the usual anecdotal BS?
 
cawacko said:
Not a rhetorical question. What policies regarding trade help the regular person? Trade deals have been deemed to help only the top 1% and hurt the American worker. And tariffs are deemed to hurt the regular person as well. What's the middle ground that is believed to help the average Joe?
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We have been ignoring China's anti-trade policies for decades ruin American manufacturing. Now, when Trump is actually doing something to rectify the imbalance, the whiny left is all up in arms and demanding we continue allowing the Chinese to exploit our markets, their workers and their environment.

These same leftists who used to demand tariffs to protect.....wait for it.....UNION workers in manufacturing.

The hypocrisy and lying from the media and the left are epic.
 
Phantasmal said:
I’m predicting Trump won’t do the debates. He will just do his rallies. He has no interest in expanding his base. He’s hoping to keep the electorate he won last time.
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The Party of the Jackass will be expanding Trump's base for him. How is the Party of the Jackass expanding their base? By lying and crying about Trump every damned day?

You do realize your predictions have NEVER been right, don't you?

Phantasmal said:
I hope it’s not possible, that some have seen what an immoral leader he is, and his policies are disastrous and they will vote for someone else.
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How is Trump any less moral than BillyBob Clinton? This is another dumb prediction.

Phantasmal said:
The campaign commercials will be good.
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They will be lies. The Democratic Party of the Jackass ideology is based in lies. ;)
 
Earl said:
President Trump has an Economics degree from the elite Wharton School of Business.
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As part of his testimony to Congress, Michael Cohen revealed that, under the direction of President Trump, he sent letters to Trump’s high schools and colleges threatening them with legal action and jail time if they ever released Trump’s academic records. Cohen provided a record of one such letter sent to the president of Fordham University, which Trump attended for two years before transferring to complete his undergraduate degree at the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. Trump’s high school has confirmed receiving an identical letter, while the University of Pennsylvania ... declined to comment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christ...want-anyone-to-know-his-grades-or-sat-scores/

So, here is a man who will use the full weight of the law to cover up his college grades from half a century ago. I guess it's that famous modesty - he doesn't want anyone to know how brilliant he was! ;)
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Big Ag doesn't give a shit about the regular farmers. In fact, they're hoping for more bankruptcies so that they can buy up more farm land and cattle/hog/chicken operations for pennies on the dollar. We've always known that (R)s are always on the side of business and not for us regular people. Their genius is that they've convinced the very ppl damaged by their policies that they *are* on their side.

This is what comes of believing that.
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Me thinks you’re a bit behind the times Owl. Small holding farmers are gone with the wind and have been for years. Go big or go home has been the prevailing order of the day in farming since the 60’s. These are large and often corporate agribusinesses that are going under.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Me thinks you’re a bit behind the times Owl. Small holding farmers are gone with the wind and have been for years. Go big or go home has been the prevailing order of the day in farming since the 60’s. These are large and often corporate agribusinesses that are going under.
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There are still small family farms around; there are a couple of them in Mr. Owl's family, for instance.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
My heart pumps pee for them. The vast majority of farmers I know, and I know a lot of them, were some of the most enthusiastic Trump supporters out there. C’est la vie.
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They still will be -they know the stakes with China trade and malign behavior must be stopped and improved
 
RB 60 said:
Shills for Putin? That's a pathetic statement.
What do you know about farming? Real jobs? Farmers have "real jobs"?
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Well, Mr. Owl's family farmed, and some of his uncles still do. So did my paternal grandmother. Farming is a real job. It's not a hobby or summer past-time.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Well, Mr. Owl's family farmed, and some of his uncles still do. So did my paternal grandmother. Farming is a real job. It's not a hobby or summer past-time.
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Are they "shills for Putin"?

Of course farming is a "real job." Some farmers do have regular (8 hr. a day) jobs. We hunted on a friend of my father's farm that he worked with. My uncle also held a full time job and farmed 108 acres.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
There are still small family farms around; there are a couple of them in Mr. Owl's family, for instance.
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They are around but they have been drastically declining for decades and most small holding farmers don’t earn their primary income from farming but use it as supplemental income.
 
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