The Democratic party abandoned their FDR roots and morphed into Republican-lite and therein lies the problem. The new crop of Progressives' policies are in line with what the movement was supposed to stand for. As long as the corporate run media has it their way they will continue to push candidates like Clinton or Biden and keep trying to convince folks that Biden is the one who can beat Trump...if we cannot be rid of him before then.
Tough luck for Bernie.
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The Democratic party abandoned their FDR roots and morphed into Republican-lite and therein lies the problem. The new crop of Progressives' policies are in line with what the movement was supposed to stand for. As long as the corporate run media has it their way they will continue to push candidates like Clinton or Biden and keep trying to convince folks that Biden is the one who can beat Trump...if we cannot be rid of him before then.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Remember Howard Dean? Before the DNC sandbagged him, he should folk how to finance any candidates campaign without the usual corporate donors....use the internet.
No one listened.
Bernie had some great ideas...but alas was too old for the job...like Trump, Reagan, etc.
We can't depend on Anonymous to save the day again. Time to change tactics.
I like Warren...for many reasons and I like many of the ideas of Julian Castro and Andrew Yang. Age was not among the issues I have with Trump or Reagan. I will always love Bernie and IMO with the right ticket and administration, I would not put him out to pasture just yet.
Good for her if she did. Jeez Gladys Kravitz, give it a rest.
Sen. Elizabeth Warren used her Twitter account to slyly refer to a purported “sex scandal” involving her and a strapping 25-year-old former Marine who claims Warren hired him multiple times as an escort.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/03/elizabeth-warren-tweet-on-alleged-sex-scandal.html
So Squaw Lizzy had a little side action in her love Tee-Pee did she
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/03/elizabeth-warren-tweet-on-alleged-sex-scandal.html
So Squaw Lizzy had a little side action in her love Tee-Pee did she
It's an 'invisible' tax that is based on consumption. The more you buy, the more of the Tax you will pay. It's an easy way to raise money. Like, if you wanted to pay off the Debt.
All of them promise you something someone else earned. Folks like you that either can't or refuse to do for yourself tend to like those that tell you that you're owed something that belongs to someone else.
You lefties have opposed that concept for years. Why do you like it now?
Essentially like the sales tax used by most states. It is not really invisible since it increases the price of products. I remember getting forms at airports to get refunds for VAT taxes but I don't remember many details of who qualifies or for what products.
We would do well to eliminate the deficit. We never pay off/down the debt but just accumulate more every year. The debt continued to increase even when Clinton had a budget surplus.
FDR started Social Security and the reds are trying to kill it, The Dems are trying to make it stronger. Just typical of right-wing v left-wing stances. The people know better. The Dems are for the people the reds are for the wealthy.
I agree. Paying Interest on a Debt is a real money-waster.
countryboy
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Trying to kill it? It's been dead for decades. The wonderful government, with whom you place all of your hopes and dreams, robbed it.
What exactly are Dims doing to "try and make it stronger"?
Nobody robbed it. The original law said any surplus would go into special treasuries. That surplus is now $2.5 trillion making interest. It is like any other government debt and is being paid when it comes due. Social Security benefits now (or soon) will exceed revenues and the surplus will pay for the shortfall. By about 2037 the surplus will be gone and revenues will cover only about 70% of benefits.
None of the problems with SS are because Congress took the money. It is because of a declining birth rate and expansion of benefits (like the annual cost of living increase).
With that diagnosed heart attack, I think Bernie is done.
His Spirit will live on.
countryboy
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Lol, you literally have no idea what you're talking about. There is no money in the social security trust fund, it's filled with iou's which must be paid by taxpayers at a future date. It's all accounting trickery. I'm surprised you fell for the government spiel. The government most certainly HAS "borrowed" and spent all of the money in the "trust fund" a very long time ago.
https://www.heritage.org/social-sec...w-the-social-security-trust-fund-really-works
https://www.forbes.com/sites/merril...-the-2-6-trillion-social-security-trust-fund/
All government debt is IOU's. The $2.5 trillion in the SS trust fund is part of the $22 trillion national debt. Those IOU's are redeemed as they come due and the government has never missed a payment of principal or interest.
If you have a retirement account and invest it in government treasuries they have "borrowed" your money and spent it but they pay you interest on those treasuries and give you back your principal when due.
This is no different than your explanation except you are implying government did something improper and the money is not going to be available when needed. The SS law required any surplus to be invested in treasuries---is it just supposed to sit there when it could be earning interest?
You have fallen for the old myth about government stealing our Social Security. You can find the same myth being repeated anyplace you find a group of old retired people sitting around drinking coffee in donut shops every morning. It is like the email claiming Congress does not pay SS or that they get their full salary for life.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Don't get me wrong....the ONLY thing Bernie shares with Trump and Reagan is the age range. The later mentioned have screwed this country royally. As for Bernie (he and Warren were my dream ticket) … he was my choice, but I can't in good conscience hope the man continues with a serious heart issue in play at his age. lMHO, he should go into an advisory capacity in his home state politics. In any event, I wish the man well.