Top military comander in Iraq, contradicts Dixie!

I can't speak for the far right, but anyone with a brain is dead set against the UN because a) the US dominance renders the equality aspect of the UN useless and b) the UN is already useless and inefficient.
 
gonzojournals said:
I can't speak for the far right, but anyone with a brain is dead set against the UN because a) the US dominance renders the equality aspect of the UN useless and b) the UN is already useless and inefficient.
Wingnut alert. :readit:
 
gonzojournals said:
I can't speak for the far right, but anyone with a brain is dead set against the UN because a) the US dominance renders the equality aspect of the UN useless and b) the UN is already useless and inefficient.

The UN is quite effective at some things and ineffective at others. I owuld not want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak.
 
maineman said:
The UN is quite effective at some things and ineffective at others. I owuld not want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak.
Just so. Also, I neither expect nor, frankly, want a large supranational organization to be efficient. "Efficiency" is a poor measure for judging the effectiveness of government, at least in most instances.
 
gonzojournals said:
I can't speak for the far right, but anyone with a brain is dead set against the UN because a) the US dominance renders the equality aspect of the UN useless and b) the UN is already useless and inefficient.


The UN does lots of things very well.
 
13 months of defiance, what are you talking about?

Fight them over there instead of here, there is no evidence that fighting them there had done anything but to inflame them.. How has it stoped us from having to fight them here... They were going to come over on ships and fight us? What an idiotic statement...:pke:
 
Cypress said:
you're about 18 months behind on your talking points.

Nobody here besided dixie and toby find your stale talking points justifying your war even remotely credible.

wow, so I'm surrounded by the whining dems? I guess I should cut & run now while I can eh?

Well your suggestions on how things should of been done would be interesting to hear. Like many of the dems there has been much criticizm but little solution, so lend a helping hand with a post of some sort of substance.
 
Jarod said:
13 months of defiance, what are you talking about?

Fight them over there instead of here, there is no evidence that fighting them there had done anything but to inflame them.. How has it stoped us from having to fight them here... They were going to come over on ships and fight us? What an idiotic statement...:pke:

"they" who exactly do you assume that we are fighting in Iraq? Oh I see, none of the 911 hijackers were from Iraq so why are we there, why would any kind of radicals be there for that matter?

I already pointed out your first post to me that you should maybe just add something of a little substance, but nothing outside of "Idiotic Statements" I can see how much you have to offer on your side of the discussion..:rolleyes:
 
Sir Evil said:
"they" who exactly do you assume that we are fighting in Iraq? Oh I see, none of the 911 hijackers were from Iraq so why are we there, why would any kind of radicals be there for that matter?

I already pointed out your first post to me that you should maybe just add something of a little substance, but nothing outside of "Idiotic Statements" I can see how much you have to offer on your side of the discussion..:rolleyes:
The "9/11" terorists were Islamists. The Islamists hated Saddam Hussein even more than we did. His brand of authoritarianism was fundamentally incompatible with theirs.

I wonder, then, why Weed was so hot to take out the Islamist's worst enemy in the middle east?
 
Sir Evil said:
wow, so I'm surrounded by the whining dems? I guess I should cut & run now while I can eh?

Well your suggestions on how things should of been done would be interesting to hear. Like many of the dems there has been much criticizm but little solution, so lend a helping hand with a post of some sort of substance.

when your party calls the shots, our ROLE is to illuminate your mistakes. If you had made none, I would not manufacture any just to make a meaningless point. All YOU seem to offer up is "stay the course", and display your ignorance by spouting off long disproven internet hoaxes as reality.

I have offered hundreds of posts of substance on what is wrong about our middle eastern foreign policy and if you care to read them, they are on fullpolitics.com. I have no intention of repeating myself for the benefit of newcomers with sassy attitudes.
 
maineman said:
when your party calls the shots, our ROLE is to illuminate your mistakes. If you had made none, I would not manufacture any just to make a meaningless point. All YOU seem to offer up is "stay the course", and display your ignorance by spouting off long disproven internet hoaxes as reality.
Ok mainecoon, wanna copy&paste any post of mine where I mentioned this administration was perfect? that's what I though, ya can't find it. Nah you wanna illuminate whatever possible to make things look peachier from a dems standpoint.

I have offered hundreds of posts of substance on what is wrong about our middle eastern foreign policy and if you care to read them, they are on fullpolitics.com. I have no intention of repeating myself for the benefit of newcomers with sassy attitudes.[/QUOTE]

I don't recall much substance but then again I am new here, but please point out how well the previous dem administrations worked so lovely in the middle east? Honestly I think the dems have a good shot at taking back the house, but if so I am dying to see the tactics used to make it all work. Peace in the middle east is a pipedream no matter how many times you can cuddle up to the bad guys, wine and dine them at the white house, but at the end of the day they still would like you dead.
 
but please point out how well the previous dem administrations worked so lovely in the middle east?

ummmm Camp David rings a bell..... Egypt and Israel have normalized diplomatic relations as a result of a democratic president...but then, given your utter ignorance of all things middle eastern, I wouldn't expect you to know that. ;)

And why, pray tell, do you call me "mainecoon"? Are you a cat lover?
 
maineman said:
but please point out how well the previous dem administrations worked so lovely in the middle east?

ummmm Camp David rings a bell..... Egypt and Israel have normalized diplomatic relations as a result of a democratic president...but then, given your utter ignorance of all things middle eastern, I wouldn't expect you to know that. ;)

And why, pray tell, do you call me "mainecoon"? Are you a cat lover?

So the relations with some of our middle eastern allies are all due credit to the dems?

And why do I call you a cat? because like a cat you just tend to whine alot but have little bite to back it!:p
 
Sir Evil said:
So the relations with some of our middle eastern allies are all due credit to the dems?

And why do I call you a cat? because like a cat you just tend to whine alot but have little bite to back it!:p
LOL! Little to back it up? You clearly don't know my cats.
 
Look.... you asked this question:

but please point out how well the previous dem administrations worked so lovely in the middle east?

I gave this answer:

ummmm Camp David rings a bell..... Egypt and Israel have normalized diplomatic relations as a result of a democratic president

which was absolutely on point and rather than just acknowledge it, you come back with:
"So the relations with some of our middle eastern allies are all due credit to the dems?"

Where, in my response, did I ever say that? Do you just babble like this all the time?
 
OrnotBitwise said:
LOL! Little to back it up? You clearly don't know my cats.

and I tell you what else...he's never met a maine coon cat, it would seem. I just had to put mine down after 19.5 years....and he was the undisputed nasty-ass boss of four other cats and two rather large dogs up until the week before he died.
 
maineman said:
I gave this answer:

ummmm Camp David rings a bell..... Egypt and Israel have normalized diplomatic relations as a result of a democratic president

which was absolutely on point and rather than just acknowledge it, you come back with:
"So the relations with some of our middle eastern allies are all due credit to the dems?"

Where, in my response, did I ever say that? Do you just babble like this all the time?

Ok, so you were'nt pointing out that the dems should pat themselves on the back for this. Does this administration have a bad relationship with Israel or Egypt?

What did the dems do to help the peace cause between Israel & the Palestinians? some how I missed that I guess, must of been something the Bush admin did to set this whole thing off.
 
maineman said:
and I tell you what else...he's never met a maine coon cat, it would seem. I just had to put mine down after 19.5 years....and he was the undisputed nasty-ass boss of four other cats and two rather large dogs up until the week before he died.

See, you are a man from maine with a maine coon, was I right or what?:cof1:
 
It's funny how the kiddie diddler will glom onto any statement from a general which seems to support his warped ideology, giving it great credence and legitimacy, yet if it's a statement that completely contradicts what he spews, they are all Bush Butt Buddies who simply have to tow the party line for their boss. It's utterly amazing to watch.

It's also interesting to note, the general specifically said Iraq might or could erupt into a civil war, while the left has been claiming they ARE in a civil war and have been for the past 6 months. The fact is, there is not a civil war in Iraq, there is sectarian violence, fomented by the kiddie diddler's friends Zarqawi and Saddam, with his able assistance, of course!
 
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