OrnotBitwise
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Yep.maineman said:
Top military comander in Iraq, contradicts Dixie!
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maineman said:
Its a civil war, of Bush's making.
If you want to bust a gut laughing, check out the Neocon media's "new" reasons for the iraq war.
Glenn Beck was on CNN saying that Bush had to lie and mislead about WMD being the reason for the war, because he couldn't share the "real" reason for his war: which was supposedly to "surround" Iran with two pro-western democracies in Iraq and Afghanitstan.
Oddly, Beck never addressed the fact that we actuall removed two of shia-dominated Iran's worst enemies: The sunni extremists in the Taliban, and the secular bath socialists in Iraq.
OrnotBitwise
Watermelon
No. What's he going to say, after all?maineman said:
OrnotBitwise
Watermelon
Well, he's undoubtedly right about the demise part. It's just a very long, very slow demise.Cypress said:
maineman
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his little fairy tale world is crumbling around him.... How can he continue to wear rose colored glasses and tell us what a success Iraq was and what a absolutely fabulous idea it was to invade, conquer and occupy an oil rich arab nation just like OBL said it would when the whole thing is now falling apart, the arab street is increasingly radical and increasingly anti-American, and even his beloved generals are warning that civil war is on its way.
He posts about Intelligent design and NCAA football picks.... ANYTHING to avoid facing his own terrible failures.
He posts about Intelligent design and NCAA football picks.... ANYTHING to avoid facing his own terrible failures.
Sir Evil
Megalocon, The Evil Dick
maineman said:
Hmmm 13 years of defiance from Iraq, what ever should of been done? I guess it would be better to be fighting the insurgency here right? Oh I see, had we not invaded Iraq there would never of been any insurgents there right, they just turn on the terrorist mentality depending on the situation?
The entire middle east is littered with the radicals thanks to many years of appeasment from the left wingers that felt they could be ignored!
Sir Evil said:
Hmmm 13 years of defiance from Iraq, what ever should of been done? I guess it would be better to be fighting the insurgency here right? Oh I see, had we not invaded Iraq there would never of been any insurgents there right, they just turn on the terrorist mentality depending on the situation?
The entire middle east is littered with the radicals thanks to many years of appeasment from the left wingers that felt they could be ignored!
You are a silly silly silly person. Iraq has never, ever, not once attaked anywhere close to the United States of America.
maineman
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Sir Evil said:
according to Bush's first secretary of state a full six months BEFORE 9/11, the sanctions had done their job.... Saddam was not a threat to anyone in the region and was incapable of projecting power beyond his own borders, let alone across the atlantic.
And your question "how about fighting terrorism abroad as opposed to hear at home?" is an abusrd either/or construction where one does not exist. The alternative to NOT invading Iraq was never simply being resigned to fighting Islamic fundamentalists on OUR shores. This black/white...on/off... hot/cold... evil/good eversimplification of the entire world and all its problems is what got us into this mess in the first place.
The middle east hates us with a broadly held passion they NEVER felt prior to our invasion of Iraq.
Sir Evil
Megalocon, The Evil Dick
Perhaps this is why Bush has a new secretary of state!maineman said:
Agreed that saddam was no direct threat to this side of the atlantic with his weapons of know thus far. But to say that he was not a threat to anyone in his own region is a thought of someone equally demented as he was himself!
The amn was a murderer of many of his own, not to mention his incursions into neighboring countries before our invasion. I guess Iran not having nuclear weapons at the moment poses no threat to anyone as well? The thinking amongs these people is largely the same all over the middle east.
maineman said:
Holy hell, where have you been pal? Iran has been chanting the death of America for the past quarter century! this is the uprising that has been escalating and it is more widespread than just Iran, see the current war going on over in Lebanon? Who is hizbollah? who is fueling their fire? think there is no hizbollah faction in Iraq & Afghanistan? don't kid yourself....
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maineman
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Perhaps this is why Bush has a new secretary of state!
until he lied his ass of to the UNSC, Colin Powell was twice the secretary of state that skinny little provost will EVER be
Agreed that saddam was no direct threat to this side of the atlantic with his weapons of know thus far. But to say that he was not a threat to anyone in his own region is a thought of someone equally demented as he was himself!
The amn was a murderer of many of his own, not to mention his incursions into neighboring countries before our invasion. I guess Iran not having nuclear weapons at the moment poses no threat to anyone as well? The thinking amongs these people is largely the same all over the middle east.
the fact is, our sanctions in the wake of the first gulf war had made Saddam impotent in the region. He was no threat to even Kuwait anymore...let alone the US...but Bush had us all frightened with horrific images of mushroom clouds over american cities from Iraqi nukes.... lying bastards
Holy hell, where have you been pal? Iran has been chanting the death of America for the past quarter century! this is the uprising that has been escalating and it is more widespread than just Iran, see the current war going on over in Lebanon? Who is hizbollah? who is fueling their fire? think there is no hizbollah faction in Iraq & Afghanistan? don't kid yourself.
Look at my avatar there buddy. I LIVED in Lebanon for two years ...
I am well aware of who Hezbollah is... I witnessed the birth of Hezbollah in Lebanon first hand. Try to bullshit someone else about Lebanon and the middle east... but do yourself a big fucking favor and don't try it with me....OK? That's your first warning.
until he lied his ass of to the UNSC, Colin Powell was twice the secretary of state that skinny little provost will EVER be
Agreed that saddam was no direct threat to this side of the atlantic with his weapons of know thus far. But to say that he was not a threat to anyone in his own region is a thought of someone equally demented as he was himself!
The amn was a murderer of many of his own, not to mention his incursions into neighboring countries before our invasion. I guess Iran not having nuclear weapons at the moment poses no threat to anyone as well? The thinking amongs these people is largely the same all over the middle east.
the fact is, our sanctions in the wake of the first gulf war had made Saddam impotent in the region. He was no threat to even Kuwait anymore...let alone the US...but Bush had us all frightened with horrific images of mushroom clouds over american cities from Iraqi nukes.... lying bastards
Holy hell, where have you been pal? Iran has been chanting the death of America for the past quarter century! this is the uprising that has been escalating and it is more widespread than just Iran, see the current war going on over in Lebanon? Who is hizbollah? who is fueling their fire? think there is no hizbollah faction in Iraq & Afghanistan? don't kid yourself.
Look at my avatar there buddy. I LIVED in Lebanon for two years ...
I am well aware of who Hezbollah is... I witnessed the birth of Hezbollah in Lebanon first hand. Try to bullshit someone else about Lebanon and the middle east... but do yourself a big fucking favor and don't try it with me....OK? That's your first warning.
Sir Evil
Megalocon, The Evil Dick
maineman said:
Ok, where be the knee quivering smilie? ya gonna come through the net and kick my ass for my opinion next? Cool, Ima fart on ya when ya get here!
What the hell is your avatar supposed to tell me? Holy mother of god, it's an American flag, I can see how that equates with Lebanon!
Damn, you witnessed the birth of hizbollah? did the jews eat the afterbirth?
Don't care if ya lived in butt fuc*ed Egypt riding a camel with no name through the deserts of hell, you won't convince me that hizbollah is not a terrorist orginzation in disguise at best, well poorly at that.
So ya been there, done that so the world should listen to the man from Maine eh? Cool, I know there are many with the same opinions but mine is not so I am autoamtically the bad guy? Guess you got me there, you have been there and done it so my opinion does'nt count!
maineman
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hezbollah is a "terrorist" organization which was started up in Lebanon by shiites impressed with the Iranian shiite theocratic revolution led by Khomeni.
They gained lots of adherents after Israel invaded and occupied Lebanon in '82. they do not share the same goals as AQ.... and we need to recognize that.
the photo, by the way, is of me standing on the top of Cheops at daybreak with Kefron in the background and it was taken by my friend and fellow UN military observer,George Casey who climbed the great pryamid with me one morning in '82 to watch the sunrise.
They gained lots of adherents after Israel invaded and occupied Lebanon in '82. they do not share the same goals as AQ.... and we need to recognize that.
the photo, by the way, is of me standing on the top of Cheops at daybreak with Kefron in the background and it was taken by my friend and fellow UN military observer,George Casey who climbed the great pryamid with me one morning in '82 to watch the sunrise.