Top 10 reasons nobody should care what liberals think about Syria

So now we need to stay in Syria because of ISIS terrorism in the west??? * good grief*

The players can handle any ISIS remnants -
and us staying in Syria to babysit the Kurds form Turkey is 100% mission creep

Babysit?? They were there in the thick of things they can't be abandoned now. That's what happened in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and now Iraq again. You say that two thousand makes little difference, but Erdogan is not going to attack whilst US troops are in the way, now is he? I agree with you most times, but you're just crazy about this.
 
Well that was cute.
Here's a factoid.

Isis was a creation of Bush Jr. Obama was given a shit agreement and made the best of it before he came into office.
YOU look to the 'other side' and never see your sides role.
Now Reality King the tv show is shitting bricks with complicated reality.

Until you can be humble enough to see your, 'sides' role in this shit hole mess, you are THE problem.
Beyond that, blah de fucking twitter blah,

True.. The author of this drivel obviously doesn't know anything about the war or Iraq or the Arab Spring.
 
Again, conservatives operate on facts, evidence, and logic, while liberals operate on emotional hysteria and conspiracy theories.

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Have you forgotten the cause of Gulf War 1 and 2?
 
Babysit?? They were there in the thick of things they can't be abandoned now. That's what happened in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and now Iraq again. You say that two thousand makes little difference, but Erdogan is not going to attack whilst US troops are in the way, now is he? I agree with you most times, but you're just crazy about this.

Nobody wants to abandon the Kurds.

But when do the Kurds plan on ‘not being there and needing protected’? IOW, what’s the end game? The answer is—there is no end game. This sort of thing is why we have what Trump calls ‘stupid wars’ going.

It’s easy to dismiss such a rhetoric until one considers that it resonates in so many parts of the country.

Also, what’s the compelling national interest in protecting the Kurds? Does congress approve of it?
 
Nobody wants to abandon the Kurds.

But when do the Kurds plan on ‘not being there and needing protected’? IOW, what’s the end game? The answer is—there is no end game. This sort of thing is why we have what Trump calls ‘stupid wars’ going.

It’s easy to dismiss such a rhetoric until one considers that it resonates in so many parts of the country.

Also, what’s the compelling national interest in protecting the Kurds? Does congress approve of it?

The Kurdish problem has been stuck for a hundred years.. What do the Kurds say? Most of them are Sunni Muslims.
 
What do Kurds Want?

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Your humble columnist therefore decided to ask his Kurdish friends from Turkey, as well some Turkish friends who are sympathetic to and share Kurdish demands, what they actually want. Their first reaction pointed out that the Turks asking “What more do they want” are not really interested in asking this question to Kurds in Turkey, much less listening to their replies. It is really a rhetorical question. The way the question is posed also shows that the Kurds are objects of government policy and “the other.”

Determining what rights the generous Turkish government will give the demanding Kurds is the business of the AKP and other governments in Ankara, based on what the international community and European Union is criticizing them the most for.


What’s more, Ankara apparently also gets to decide who represents the Kurds. The PKK obviously does not, even if in many majority-Kurdish cities in the southeast it often appears difficult to find many Kurds who are not broadly supportive of the group (although they typically will not say so to a Turk from Western Turkey, much less a government official or soldier).

The People’s Democracy Party (HDP) does not either, since according to the government in Ankara the HDP is just a political front for the PKK. If that is true, the millions of people who voted for the HDP must have therefore been tricked about the HDP’s real nature, since the PKK does not represent Kurds in Turkey.


No, the ruling party in Ankara will tell Kurds what they want, like an abusive husband who speaks for the woman betrothed to him in an arranged marriage. “I spend a lot of money on her, and give her everything she needs,” he says, “but you can ask her what she wants and she is free to say so, although she will regret it if she gives the wrong answer.”

On a general level, Kurds do not want to be the woman in such a patriarchal, abusive marriage. They demand to be a partner in Turkey with control over their own public lives, much as Kemal Ataturk promised them in 1919-1923 when he was rallying Kurdish forces during Turkey’s War of Independence.

Although you cannot find mention of it in Turkey’s official history, historians have the letters that Ataturk wrote the Kurds during this time – letters that promised things like autonomy for Kurdish areas and a partnership role in the new post-war state.

more.....

http://www.rudaw.net/english/opinion/08042016
 
Nobody wants to abandon the Kurds.

But when do the Kurds plan on ‘not being there and needing protected’? IOW, what’s the end game? The answer is—there is no end game. This sort of thing is why we have what Trump calls ‘stupid wars’ going.

It’s easy to dismiss such a rhetoric until one considers that it resonates in so many parts of the country.

Also, what’s the compelling national interest in protecting the Kurds? Does congress approve of it?

Well you could equally say that about Korea. I am sorry but abandoning the Kurds to that bastard Erdogan is not going to look good. It basically says dude with the US and you'll left to your own devices.
 
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-Democrats have gotten us into (and horribly screwed up) nearly every war we have been in for the last hundred years.

-Liberals told us that "Literally Hitler" Trump would warmonger us into endless bloodshed. He is doing the exact opposite.

-Democrat incompetence literally created ISIS, and Obama directly supported the Arab Spring, which directly caused the Syrian civil war.

-Democrats knowingly and deliberately armed, aided, and funded terrorists for years...with no conceivable benefit to U.S. interests.

-Liberals supported Obama when he illegally started a war without Congress (but now demand that they should have been given the ability to debate the withdrawal in Congress, after being unconstitutionally denied any input whatsoever on starting said war), emboldened terrorists with his incompetent hesitation, indecision, and by retreating from his "line in the sand."

-Liberals supported Hillary when she bragged about pointlessly destabilizing an entire region of the Middle East in Libya (which ended up costing Americans their lives, which Hillary and Obama then lied about being caused by Americans having the right to question Islam in public), saying, “We came, we saw, he died,” referring to killing Gadhafi once he was already complying with weapons inspectors (contradicting everything Democrats pretended to stand for with Iraq).

-They blame terrorist attacks on America for having the audacity to fight back.

-They have rooted for and aided every enemy this country has faced for the last half-century or more.

-Liberals have spent nearly two decades only pretending to care about the troops and fiscal responsibility when they can be used to undermine national defense, and supported Obama as he needlessly surrendered entire regions of the Middle East to bloodthirsty Islamic savages.

-Liberals are against national defense in general. They oppose building the wall, oppose stopping un-vettable terror-state "refugees," opposed Gitmo, opposed the Patriot Act, opposed Afghanistan (until it could be used to trash and lie about the other war they voted for in Iraq), opposed correctly treating foreign terrorists captured on the battlefield as enemy combatants (instead of as American citizens entitled to trials and lawyers), opposed arming pilots, oppose profiling young, Arab, Muslim males (the group that commits approximately 100% of our terrorist attacks), and caused 9/11.

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I don’t typically care what leftists think about any issue.
 
-Democrats have gotten us into (and horribly screwed up) nearly every war we have been in for the last hundred years.

-Liberals told us that "Literally Hitler" Trump would warmonger us into endless bloodshed. He is doing the exact opposite.

-Democrat incompetence literally created ISIS, and Obama directly supported the Arab Spring, which directly caused the Syrian civil war.

-Democrats knowingly and deliberately armed, aided, and funded terrorists for years...with no conceivable benefit to U.S. interests.

-Liberals supported Obama when he illegally started a war without Congress (but now demand that they should have been given the ability to debate the withdrawal in Congress, after being unconstitutionally denied any input whatsoever on starting said war), emboldened terrorists with his incompetent hesitation, indecision, and by retreating from his "line in the sand."

-Liberals supported Hillary when she bragged about pointlessly destabilizing an entire region of the Middle East in Libya (which ended up costing Americans their lives, which Hillary and Obama then lied about being caused by Americans having the right to question Islam in public), saying, “We came, we saw, he died,” referring to killing Gadhafi once he was already complying with weapons inspectors (contradicting everything Democrats pretended to stand for with Iraq).

-They blame terrorist attacks on America for having the audacity to fight back.

-They have rooted for and aided every enemy this country has faced for the last half-century or more.

-Liberals have spent nearly two decades only pretending to care about the troops and fiscal responsibility when they can be used to undermine national defense, and supported Obama as he needlessly surrendered entire regions of the Middle East to bloodthirsty Islamic savages.

-Liberals are against national defense in general. They oppose building the wall, oppose stopping un-vettable terror-state "refugees," opposed Gitmo, opposed the Patriot Act, opposed Afghanistan (until it could be used to trash and lie about the other war they voted for in Iraq), opposed correctly treating foreign terrorists captured on the battlefield as enemy combatants (instead of as American citizens entitled to trials and lawyers), opposed arming pilots, oppose profiling young, Arab, Muslim males (the group that commits approximately 100% of our terrorist attacks), and caused 9/11.

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So are you saying ONLY Republican families and Republican Troops serve and are invested in Wars? :thinking:
 
So are you saying ONLY Republican families and Republican Troops serve and are invested in Wars? :thinking:

:stup2:

So you are interpreting me saying that liberals betray our country at every turn and cause most of our foreign policy disasters as me saying that only Republicans are invested in wars?
 
Your absurdly biased article argues that Obama was forced to surrender an entire region of the Middle East to an already defeated enemy...over a SOFA agreement not being renewed yet. :rofl2:

This is the flimsiest pile of horseshit excuse-making I have ever witnessed, literally. That was provably NOT what caused Obama to ignore all the advice of all his advisors and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory (what liberals do)...hence Obama vowing (on blind America-hating ideology alone) for YEARS before the SOFA agreement expired to remove us from Iraq (duh). And gee, why would all of his advisors tell Obama to stay put until the Iraqis were finished being trained to keep ISIS from coming back if the SOFA agreement expiring (a completely meaningless formality) FORCED us to withdraw?

Hilariously stupid attempt at a counterpoint. :laugh:

What's hilarious is YOUR bias. The article, the time, the REALITY is that shit was set in motion before him. Obama just followed through with the previous administrations work and an agreed real world political framework that you deny existed and then vomit, 'hilarious' bias is a trade mark of faux news stupidity. The article is one of many that where a response to the things that where done in reality.
The HILARIOUS is that you obsess over an article and miss reality.
Fuckin' funny except for the part where it's sad. Not only for you but historical realty.
 
Your absurdly biased article argues that Obama was forced to surrender an entire region of the Middle East to an already defeated enemy...over a SOFA agreement not being renewed yet. :rofl2:

This is the flimsiest pile of horseshit excuse-making I have ever witnessed, literally. That was provably NOT what caused Obama to ignore all the advice of all his advisors and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory (what liberals do)...hence Obama vowing (on blind America-hating ideology alone) for YEARS before the SOFA agreement expired to remove us from Iraq (duh). And gee, why would all of his advisors tell Obama to stay put until the Iraqis were finished being trained to keep ISIS from coming back if the SOFA agreement expiring (a completely meaningless formality) FORCED us to withdraw?

Hilariously stupid attempt at a counterpoint. :laugh:



Obama going against all his advisors to prematurely pull out and hand the region to barbaric Islamic lunatics is...someone other than Obama being wrong. Um, sure. :dunno:



Yes, veering off to paint your opponent as not adequately considering the whole issue, instead of just debating the points being made, is known as an "ad hominem" fallacy, and it is the very textbook definition of off-topic smearing.

Try again. :cool:

I see you're obsessed with me. How cute. Also how sad.

Going against all his advisers, how projecting, in today's time... At one time that might have been a thoughtful opinion, today under 'Drumfh' it's a real, sad, failed business man reality star, whaana-bee billionaire joke. You are aligned with a failure of REALITY and a presidency that is embarrassing for both America and Humanity.

So go blame Obama for the Path of Trumps and your predecessors, Failed policies for Saudi Arabia

It makes you look, like a, Chump, I mean a Tr....
 
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