Today is the anniversary of the My Lai massacre

he incident prompted global outrage when it became public knowledge in November 1969. The massacre increased to some extent[10] domestic opposition to the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War when the scope of killing and cover-up attempts were exposed. Initially, three U.S. servicemen who had tried to halt the massacre and rescue the hiding civilians were shunned, and even denounced as traitors by several U.S. Congressmen, including Mendel Rivers, Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. Only after thirty years were they recognized and decorated, one posthumously, by the U.S. Army for shielding non-combatants from harm in a war zone
 
It was a tragedy. Too bad the atrocities committed by the NVA and VC were never publicized. What they did was 1,000 X's worse. But that's war. No side is completely innocent.
 
the courage of the men who protected and saved some of the village is amazing

war can destroy a humans soul

Not those men
 

Hugh Clowers Thompson Jr. (April 15, 1943 – January 6, 2006) retired as a United States Army Major, and formerly a warrant officer in the 123rd Aviation Battalion, 23rd Infantry Division, who played a major role in ending the My Lai Massacre in Sơn Mỹ Village, Sơn Tịnh District, Quảng Ngãi Province, South Vietnam, on March 16, 1968.
During the My Lai massacre, Thompson and his Hiller OH-23 Raven crew, Glenn Andreotta and Lawrence Colburn, stopped a number of killings by threatening and blocking officers and enlisted soldiers of Company C, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment, 11th Brigade, 23rd Infantry Division. Additionally, Thompson and his crew saved a number of Vietnamese civilians by personally escorting them away from advancing United States Army ground units and assuring their evacuation by air. Thompson reported the atrocities by radio several times while at Sơn Mỹ. Although these reports reached Task Force Barker operational headquarters, nothing was done to stop the massacre. After evacuating a child to a Quảng Ngãi hospital, Thompson angrily reported to his superiors at Task Force Barker headquarters that a massacre was occurring at Sơn Mỹ. Immediately following Thompson's report, Lieutenant Colonel Frank A. Barker ordered all ground units in Sơn Mỹ to cease search and destroy operations in the village.
In 1970, Thompson testified against those responsible for the My Lai Massacre. Twenty-six officers and enlisted soldiers, including William Calley and Ernest Medina, were charged with criminal offenses, but all were either acquitted or pardoned. Thompson was condemned and ostracized by many individuals in the United States military and government, as well as the public, for his role in the investigations and trials concerning the My Lai massacre. As a direct result of what he experienced, Thompson suffered from posttraumatic stress disorder, alcoholism, divorce, and severe nightmare disorder.[citation needed] Despite the adversity he faced, he remained in the United States Army until November 1, 1983, and continued to make a living as a helicopter pilot in the Southeastern United States.
In 1998, 30 years after the massacre, Thompson and the two other members of his crew, Glenn Andreotta and Lawrence Colburn, were awarded the Soldier's Medal (Andreotta posthumously), the United States Army's highest award for bravery not involving direct contact with the enemy.[1] Thompson and Colburn also returned to Sơn Mỹ in 1998, where the massacre took place, to meet with survivors of the massacre. In 1999, Thompson and Colburn received the Peace Abbey Courage of Conscience Award.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Colburn


Lawrence Manley Colburn (July 6, 1949 – December 13, 2016) was a United States Army veteran who, while serving as a helicopter gunner in the Vietnam War, intervened in the March 16, 1968 My Lai Massacre.
Born in Coulee Dam, Washington, Colburn grew up in Mount Vernon, with his father (a veteran contractor from World War II), mother, and three sisters, where he would serve as an altar boy for four years while attending Immaculate Conception Catholic School.
After dropping out of high school, he joined the army in 1966 and was assigned to train at Fort Lewis followed by a stint at Fort Polk. He was then sent to Fort Shafter in Hawaii, where he earned his GED before being sent to Vietnam in December 1967.[1] In South Vietnam he was assigned to the 161st Assault Helicopter Company (later reorganized as the 123rd Aviation Battalion) with the rank of Specialist Four. Serving as a door-gunner on an UH-1 Iroquois transport helicopter, his crew chief was Specialist Four Glenn Andreotta and his pilot was Warrant Officer One Hugh Thompson, Jr..
Thirty years after the fact all three men were decorated with the Soldier's Medal for their heroic actions at My Lai.
 
Calley went free after conviction on 22 murder counts.
The disgust America felt after this helped bring the wars losing end sooner.
America failed humanity.
America failed itself.
 
Calley went free after conviction on 22 murder counts.
The disgust America felt after this helped bring the wars losing end sooner.
America failed humanity.
America failed itself.

It's a catastrophe that it learned nothing- except how better to cover its ass.

Julian Assange is a hero. So too Edward Snowden. And Chelsea Manning. And all those other whistle-blowers that we never got to know about.
 
It was a tragedy. Too bad the atrocities committed by the NVA and VC were never publicized. What they did was 1,000 X's worse. But that's war. No side is completely innocent.

I hold my country to a higher standard than communist rebels and fascist brown shirts.

I am pretty sure most educated people realize that communist insurgents throughout history have slaughtered civilians and committed heinous war crimes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/opinion/vietcong-generals-atrocities.html

The Bolsheviks burned down the church in my grandfather's village.....with the priest locked inside it.

The fire bombing of German and Japanese cities by Allied air forces in WW2 cannot be justified ethically.

I believe most liberals would like to see international institutions that hold war criminals accountable beefed up, aka the War Crimes Tribunal in the Hague, et al. International law can always be improved and beefed up to put potential war criminals on notice.

However, I have never noticed conservatives showing even a slight interest in international law, or working with the international community to beef up war crimes investigation tribunals. The fact that a lot of conservatives were cheering for water boarding and the torture of prisoners actually wreaked havoc on or credibility as a nation committed to justice and the rule of law.
 
It was a tragedy. Too bad the atrocities committed by the NVA and VC were never publicized. What they did was 1,000 X's worse. But that's war. No side is completely innocent.
My daughter-in-law's family can give you chapter and verse on the Viet Cong and Viet Minh. They were very cruel to people in Saigon for the first few years after the war.

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I have been to the Sơn Mỹ Memorial where the massacre occurred.

I might add that Americans are welcome in Vietnam now. The US Navy has berthing facilities in Đà Nẵng these days.
Tolerated.
No. Welcomed. I've been there too. The wife and I were riding bikes in the countryside outside Hoi An when we passed a group of Vietnamese men sitting around drinking beer. They invited us to sit and have some with them. We had a great time with them. Everybody we met was wonderful. Would love to go back.
People are still dying from Agent Orange.
Did you see many deformed kids while you were passing through ?
The only deformed kids I saw were pictures in the War Remnants Museum in Saigon.
Same here.

@moonbat : where do you get your information from? Ever been there? If so maybe they only 'tolerated' you because you acted like an asshole. :dunno:
 
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