To those who don't get Obama...

[Ass Man]

He speaks honestly and from the heart like Clinton did.

He speaks to the higher instincts of humanity rather than to self interest and greed like Republicans do.

Obama is a lying pile of shit much like the media and people that support him, his leadership is why Hillary lost.

 

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Obama is a lying pile of shit much like the media and people that support him, his leadership is why Hillary lost.

Hillary is why Hillary lost.

Obama would have beaten Trump easily.

 

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I'm sure I'll be attacked as a "hack" for saying this, but in my experience, the "left" is drenched in hypocrisy, and I think it's mainly because they tend to be more emotional or politically persuaded through emotional arguments, and thus, more short-sighted in the views they hold, or done in a moment of emotional weakness. Rob Lowe even said something similar in 2011 (at about the 0:44 second mark in the below video):

And whenever I see hypocrisy alleged towards the right, it tends to either be a false case where actual differences can be explained and noted, or it is specific to a certain poster's statements who may have gone too far with provocative statements.

Sorry. Once you made Trump the head of your party, you lost the ability to characterize the left as "emotional."

 

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According to Evince, Thing1 is a right winger.

 

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Sorry. Once you made Trump the head of your party, you lost the ability to characterize the left as "emotional."

That doesn't even make sense. I've read and heard from numerous people that the choice to pick Trump was merely logical, eg, not Hillary.

You have lost your mind.

 

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That doesn't even make sense. I've read and heard from numerous people that the choice to pick Trump was merely logical, eg, not Hillary.

You have lost your mind.

Trump is a very emotional person.

Get it now?

Sorry your poor widdle feelings are hurt, but please stop trolling.

 

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Trump is a very emotional person.

Get it now?

Sorry your poor widdle feelings are hurt, but please stop trolling.

Yes he is. That has NOTHING to do with people's logical choice to pick him.

What the fuck is wrong with you? How is anything I said in that post "trolling"?

You're a damn liar.

 

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So you can't answer with a simple yes or no. And as a typical liberal, you throw around the word "token". Token black person, token posts.

The truth is, I have not supported Trump, but you call me a right wing hack. I don't support many right wing platforms, but you feel comfortable lying that I do, even while admitting you don't know my political positions. See, when I call you out, I back it up.

Pro gay marriage
Pro marijuana legalization
Pro rebuilding our infrastructure
Con Tillerson for his position
Con Trump as President
Pro loan forgiveness for students who can work in public service

GFY liar. I don't know what happened to you after the election, but you're totally unhinged. We actually got along when I first joined.

saved

Just in case Thingy lies again about my political position.

 

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saved

Just in case Thingy lies again about my political position.

YaYurt is a Trumptard...

 

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Yes he is. That has NOTHING to do with people's logical choice to pick him.

What the fuck is wrong with you? How is anything I said in that post "trolling"?

You're a damn liar.

I wasn't talking about people's "logical choice to pick him." I'm saying that when the leader of your party is ridiculously emotional, you don't have much of a leg to stand on when you're calling the opposition emotional.

Can't spell it out for you any better than that. Now stop trolling. It's friggin' annoying.

 

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"Obama is a lying pile of" dd #61

Excellent!

Please quote 3 lies.

Thanks.

 

[iewitness]

Trump is a very emotional person.

Get it now?

Sorry your poor widdle feelings are hurt, but please stop trolling.

I do not think trump is emotional. I think he is logical, slightly tempered with emotional humor. that is the reason for trump refusing to answer a question for the fake news fag. the logical response, untempered with emotional humor would be: "throw him out, get him the hell out of here". you bastards are lucky trump isn't untempered with emotional humor.

 

[blacknwhite321]

Sorry. Once you made Trump the head of your party, you lost the ability to characterize the left as "emotional."

Not in the slightest. In fact, if you poll the people who voted for Trump, it's not a bunch of people who love him for emotional reasons or who are proud of everything he's done, but actually quite the opposite. They have overlooked all the flaws, because they believe that with his billionaire business background, largely self-funded campaign, his unapologetically 'America-first' approach to economic and trade policy, his strong-border and tough immigration policy, his school-choice education policy, his lower tax and regulation policy, and him being without a Washington-insider stain on him, he could usher in a long-awaited and genuinely substantive change to politics as usual, and shake up the establishment that many find to be ignoring them and even willfully governing against their wishes. These are people who thought logically and looked for the common-sense approach to all the problems in America right now, and what it would take for their government to finally listen to them and do what they want done. They looked at all these things and believed that Trump could be the vessel through which these things they care about could be accomplished for them.

Nothing about Trump or his demeanor will change the truth about Liberals and the left as being emotional and swayed through emotional arguments. That seems well-ingrained in them and is evidenced by what they continue to say and who they continue to support.

 

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Not in the slightest. In fact, if you poll the people who voted for Trump, it's not a bunch of people who love him for emotional reasons or who are proud of everything he's done, but actually quite the opposite. They have overlooked all the flaws, because they believe that with his billionaire business background, largely self-funded campaign, his unapologetically 'America-first' approach to economic and trade policy, his strong-border and tough immigration policy, his school-choice education policy, his lower tax and regulation policy, and him being without a Washington-insider stain on him, he could usher in a long-awaited and genuinely substantive change to politics as usual, and shake up the establishment that many find to be ignoring them and even willfully governing against their wishes. These are people who thought logically and looked for the common-sense approach to all the problems in America right now, and what it would take for their government to finally listen to them and do what they want done. They looked at all these things and believed that Trump could be the vessel through which these things they care about could be accomplished for them.

Nothing about Trump or his demeanor will change the truth about Liberals and the left as being emotional and swayed through emotional arguments. That seems well-ingrained in them and is evidenced by what they continue to say and who they continue to support.

Really well-written - but what a sugarcoated way to describe the biggest demagogue who ever got elected President, and who ran a campaign that appealed strictly to fear, hate & divisiveness (all very emotional, btw).

Most of those voters didn't "think logically." They reacted through their fear.

 

[blacknwhite321]

Really well-written - but what a sugarcoated way to describe the biggest demagogue who ever got elected President, and who ran a campaign that appealed strictly to fear, hate & divisiveness (all very emotional, btw).

Most of those voters didn't "think logically." They reacted through their fear.

How would you know? Are you one of the people who voted for him? Oh! No, you aren't... And instead of listening to the people who DID vote for him and why they chose him over the other 16 Republican candidates, you falsely speak on behalf of them and purposely mischaracterize them. Look, if you want to play the ignorant game in order to justify your false premise, go ahead, but it's not going to get you anywhere, certainly nowhere productive and useful...

In fact, it was Trump's opposition that played on fear... fear that Trump would be ultra-divisive, hateful, etc, and that his supporters were a basket of deplorables...

 

[Ralph]

You missed out.

We may never have a President who inspires us like this again.

Obama speaks to the best of us as Americans. Trump, unfortunately, speaks to the worst of us. There couldn't be a more stark difference.

Inspires what? Cop hating? Race Baiting? Muslim extremism? Fascism? Social Communism? Using several names depending upon which persona he needs at any given time? Barry Soetoro has been the most divisive commander in chief in the history of the United States. He has doubled the national debt, made more people impoverished, reduced the labor participation rate to its lowest in over 4 decades, used government agencies to attack his political opponents, spied on US CITIZENS and journalists he did not agree with....

Yep he speaks to the BEST of the United States.....that riot in the street, beat down people because they did not agree with the way they voted in a free election....you mean he inspired evil assholes to be more duplicitous and deceitful. Just look at the liberals on this board....no morality whatsoever, constantly lying and attempting to assassinate the character of those they disagree with.

Yep that real inspiring.

 

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You know what is truly hilarious about Thingy's accusations, he hates it when Evince calls him a right winger.

Watermark calls Daesh a right-winger.

 

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" Cop hating? Race Baiting? Muslim extremism? Fascism? Social Communism? Using several names depending upon which persona he needs at any given time? Barry Soetoro has been the most divisive commander in chief in the history of the United States. He has doubled the national debt, made more people impoverished, reduced the labor participation rate to its lowest in over 4 decades, " #76

“... Reince Priebus, the Republican National Chairman today said that 300K jobs ... aught to be expected every month ... and just a historical perspective:
- during the 8 years of President Bush (younger) there were 2.1 million net jobs created in the United States. Of the 2.1 million, 1.8 million of them were in the public sector ... that means there were 300,000 jobs in the private sector in 8 months, in 8 years rather, net ...
more jobs have been created in the United States in the last 4 years than in Europe, Japan, all the industrialized modern world combined. ...
70 years since WWII. 36 years of Republican presidents, 34 years of Democratic presidents. In those 70 years, there were 36.7 million jobs created under Republican presidents ... a little over half the time. In 34 years there were 63.7 million created by Democrats. That's 29 million more. You know, perhaps it's an accident once, or twice or what. But I mean at some point the Democrats ought to be comfort in the fact that they have been better the economy and job creation than have been the opposition.
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It's 15 years since we've had 10 consecutive months of over 200,000 [job growth]. Just 15 years ago there was a fella from Arkansas ... there were more jobs created in Bill Clinton's 8 years than there were in Ronald Reagan's 8 years, and the 12 years of both Bush's combined. I mean 6 million more jobs created in those 8 years, ... policy does kick in, & is reflected in the results.” Mark Shields

President Reagan, the Republican demigod more than doubled the U.S. federal debt. But it's only bad when a Democrat does it.

 

[leaningright]

Really well-written - but what a sugarcoated way to describe the biggest demagogue who ever got elected President, and who ran a campaign that appealed strictly to fear, hate & divisiveness (all very emotional, btw).

Most of those voters didn't "think logically." They reacted through their fear.

I'm not trying to be a smart aleck here. Seriously, what were Trump voters afraid of (other than president Hillary Clinton) that caused them to vote for him? I could argue, I think, that they voted for him out of hope. Hope that things would change for the better for them. It may have been misguided and misplaced but don't you think hope and change describe the motivation behind people who thought/think he can create jobs for them. I might argue that voters were motivated to vote for Trump by the same feelings Obama voters were motivated by the first time.

 

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I'm not trying to be a smart aleck here. Seriously, what were Trump voters afraid of (other than president Hillary Clinton) that caused them to vote for him? I could argue, I think, that they voted for him out of hope. Hope that things would change for the better for them. It may have been misguided and misplaced but don't you think hope and change describe the motivation behind people who thought/think he can create jobs for them. I might argue that voters were motivated to vote for Trump by the same feelings Obama voters were motivated by the first time.

That may be true of some voters, but I'm looking at the way Trump campaigned, and what got his crowds in a frenzy. It was divisive speech. It was textbook demagoguery - from "they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime" to banning Muslims to retweeting posts from white supremacists. The America he portrayed was some scary place that I've never heard of, where the unemployment rate for blacks was over 50%, terrorists lurked around every corner and you couldn't walk down the street without risking getting shot. And the economy was at "Grapes of Wrath" levels. Crime has been steadily declining since the '90's, but listening to Trump, you would think it was worse than ever.

He stoked fear, he stoked hate. It's what demagogues do. I don't think all of his voters were haters or bigots, and I understand the anti-Hillary component to everything. But there is no doubt that it was a campaign based on fear & division, and that xenophobia and racism were brought out into the light in a way that made a lot of Americans very uncomfortable.