Time for JPP Leftists to stand up and be counted

Are you glad that the Ayatollah is gone? Or are you grieving his loss?

Failure to respond will place you in the grieving column
I am glad he is gone, but it was not worth what will happen. He was in a box.

You are reverting to classic NeoCon argument. I was also glad Saddam was dead. Do you think in was worth what it cost us?
 
I am glad he is gone, but it was not worth what will happen. He was in a box.

You are reverting to classic NeoCon argument. I was also glad Saddam was dead. Do you think in was worth what it cost us?
You have no idea what this will or won't cost. Was Iraq worth it? Taking out Saddam was worth it. Not doing what needed to be done to secure the country wasn't worth it. Iran and Iraq are not the same.

You want to think they are the same, but they are not.

And Trump is no Bush.

But, I am happy that you get to trot out 20 year old shibboleths. Your new stuff was pretty weak
 
You have no idea what this will or won't cost. Was Iraq worth it? Taking out Saddam was worth it. Not doing what needed to be done to secure the country wasn't worth it. Iran and Iraq are not the same.

You want to think they are the same, but they are not.

And Trump is no Bush.

But, I am happy that you get to trot out 20 year old shibboleths. Your new stuff was pretty weak
Neocon, so you think the PP will do what needs to be done to secure Iran? What is that? Thousands of U.S. Troops killed?

You dont think he will abandon this once it gets sticky?
 
Are you glad that the Ayatollah is gone? Or are you grieving his loss?

Failure to respond will place you in the grieving column
Dude, how many fuckin times are we gonna see this fuckin movie? Every single time the US tries to democratize these sand niggas, ie Muslims, after a few years of it, these sand niggas go right back to Siria Law and some fat fuckin greasy I-a- told-ya..so...emerges, never fails....Its like putting lipstick on a fuckin pig only worse. LOL Every time, and our people die as a result. Do you think for one second this nation is gonna be safe after this shit? Keep in mind, IT WAS OUR FRIENDS IN THE MIDDLE EAST THAT TOOK DOWN THE TWIN TOWERS. Like a tiger stalking its prey, they gonna sit around, wait for a few years and this nation is gonna pay for all the sins of Donald Trump someday, just wait and see.
 
You have no idea what this will or won't cost. Was Iraq worth it? Taking out Saddam was worth it. Not doing what needed to be done to secure the country wasn't worth it. Iran and Iraq are not the same.

You want to think they are the same, but they are not.

And Trump is no Bush.

But, I am happy that you get to trot out 20 year old shibboleths. Your new stuff was pretty weak
It will cost us one of two things, decades of war, or a cut and run reputation.
 
Neocon, so you think the PP will do what needs to be done to secure Iran? What is that? Thousands of U.S. Troops killed?

You dont think he will abandon this once it gets sticky?
Oh look at you trotting out the term neocon. This must be so nostalgic for you.

I wish I could take you seriously and believe that you have actual concern for the blood and treasure of the US. But, I have been around this board for too long and witnessed more than my fair share of your shenanigans.

You are either paid to be here or you have very little life of your own that brings you happiness. You spend just too much time here spouting the same old boring tropes that no sane person would utter.
 
Oh look at you trotting out the term neocon. This must be so nostalgic for you.

I wish I could take you seriously and believe that you have actual concern for the blood and treasure of the US. But, I have been around this board for too long and witnessed more than my fair share of your shenanigans.

You are either paid to be here or you have very little life of your own that brings you happiness. You spend just too much time here spouting the same old boring tropes that no sane person would utter.
You are the one who has historically supported squandering the blood and treasure of America. Are you trying to tell me you were against the Iraq war, yet are now supporting the Iran war? Stupid.
 
You are the one who has historically supported squandering the blood and treasure of America. Are you trying to tell me you were against the Iraq war, yet are now supporting the Iran war? Stupid.
I initially supported the Iraq War and largely supported its aims at the time believing there was a strategic reason for doing it. But, the aftermath was completely mishandled. We should have leveled the place. We did half measures.

I honestly don't have an opinion about what is happening in Iran yet. It is indisputable that they were moving towards a nuclear weapon. It is indisputable that they were the sole funding mechanism and purveyor of terrorism around the world and the region. If this can rein that in and put Iran on a path towards being a country it was prior to democrat Jimmy Carter fucking up, then that will be a good thing. I do know that many in that region aren't not crying for the fall of the Iranian leadership.

You marxists are probably more sad about it.

Like I said, there is no principle for you here. Just another reason for you to come her and bore people with your Trump bashing. If you had a reputation for being this passionate about opposing democrat party invasions/bombings, then maybe I would take you seriously. But you don't, so I won't
 
Are you glad that the Ayatollah is gone? Or are you grieving his loss?

Failure to respond will place you in the grieving column
Why only the Leftists? Why not the 45% of Americans who are Independents and question both Trump's decisions and his sanity?
 
You have no idea what this will or won't cost. Was Iraq worth it? Taking out Saddam was worth it. Not doing what needed to be done to secure the country wasn't worth it. Iran and Iraq are not the same.

You want to think they are the same, but they are not.

And Trump is no Bush.

But, I am happy that you get to trot out 20 year old shibboleths. Your new stuff was pretty weak
It cost us a few cruise missiles. Well worth it. The people of Iran are dancing and singing in the streets and celebrating Trump's bold action. Iran is free of the tyranny.

Now comes the transition portion. The people of Iran will finally be able to govern themselves when it's all over.
 
It cost us a few cruise missiles. Well worth it. The people of Iran are dancing and singing in the streets and celebrating Trump's bold action. Iran is free of the tyranny.

Now comes the transition portion. The people of Iran will finally be able to govern themselves when it's all over.
There were some lives lost on the US side and I don't want to minimize it. And it is a fair question to ask what happens next. Who leads Iran? Is it someone worse? Nature abhors a vacuum.
 
There were some lives lost on the US side and I don't want to minimize it. And it is a fair question to ask what happens next. Who leads Iran? Is it someone worse? Nature abhors a vacuum.
More will be last over the next few weeks. Not just American lives, but the lives of our allies and their citizens. This doesn't cover the billions that this will cost both in military expenses and a self-induced oil crisis.

Iran will not collapse quietly. They'll go apeshit and try to take out as much of the ME as they can; closing the Strait and severely damaging Sunni oil facilities will be at the top of their list. If they have assets in the US, they'll execute a major terrorist attack or two.

Agreed on the lack of leadership in Iran once the government does collapse. This will become another Iraqi money pit for a decade.
 
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