Tim Ryan for minority leader

Exactly. And it isn't even about being young - that's Bernie's magic. He's an older guy, but he's not an insider & never has been. I like that he & Warren are being tagged as 2 emerging leaders of the progressive wing of the party. Ryan seems like more of a centrist and a guy who can bring all of the factions together.

Pelosi is just old-school politics, and no one on the hill is more of an insider than she is. I can't think of what positive message it would send to the country if she remained as the Dem leader.
As you can see coastal elites like Desh don't agree with you.
 
If they don't it will cement in my mind that the Dems consider everything between the west coast and the east coast as fly over country and my general attitude will be that they can GFO.

Pelosi and Reid had their moment in the sun and the consequences of their policies and strategies has been more stagnation and lack of growth and opportunity for working class people and rural Americans. Time for them to go.

Exactly! Ryan, from what I've seen, definitely has that midwestern thing about him. And he gets the politics of the rust belt, which is going to be such a key region going forward.

I heard that Pelosi has already talked to the media about having the votes locked up. I mean, could anything sound more "insider" than that? Before any debate or discussion is even engaged in. That's the kind of "rigged" perception that alienates many Americans today.
 
you don't win by letting others cheat asshole
You don't win by living in an echo chamber and not listening to people when they are frustrated and want to know "When the hell are you going to get off your ass and do something for us?!".

Middle and working class folks are fed up with the status quo Desh. It isn't working for them.
 
quit repeating right wing lies designed to cover over the hacking and pushing the dems to the right
 
quit repeating right wing lies designed to cover over the hacking and pushing the dems to the right
OK...since when has populist efforts to advance the interest of working class people pushed anyone to the right? By definition Desh that would be pushing Dems to the left. Which is what Trump did to the GOP....and won.
 
Early life and career[edit]
Ryan was born in Niles, Ohio, the son of Rochelle Maria (Rizzi) and Allen Leroy Ryan.[1] He is of Irish and Italian ancestry. Ryan's parents divorced when he was seven years old, and Ryan was raised by his mother.[2] Ryan graduated from John F. Kennedy High School in Warren, where he played football as a quarterback and coached junior high basketball. Ryan was recruited to play football at Youngstown State University, but a knee injury ended his playing career and he transferred to Bowling Green State University.[2] He received a Bachelor of Arts degree in political science from Bowling Green in 1995 and was a member of Delta Tau Delta fraternity. After college, Ryan joined the staff of Ohio Congressman Jim Traficant.[2] In 2000, he earned a Juris Doctor degree from Franklin Pierce Law Center in Concord, New Hampshire.[3] From 2000 to 2002 he served half a term in the Ohio State Senate.[2]





great


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Ryan_(politician)
 
Besides Desh...face the facts....Ryan is a Buckeye and Pelosi is a California and everyone knows that by all objective measurable metrics that Buckeyes are superior to Californians and far more capable. I mean look at all the greatest Astronauts. They're mostly Buckeyes. You're just being provincial at a time when most people are fed up with coastal elites.:p
 
No it's called fanatical ignorance.

Being a free thinker isn't about rationalizing your own beliefs Desh. It's about being able to change your mind when facts contradict your beliefs. For a person hung up on facts you should know this.

go get an example
 
Ryan voted for the Stupak Amendment

He talked w/ Rachel Maddow about that last night. He used to be pro-life, but he's pro-choice now. He talked about the whole process to get to that point; it was incredibly thoughtful for a politician, and clearly, something he put a LOT of time into. He met with single mothers and single women who were considering abortions; he met w/ Planned Parenthood. He really put in the time, and arrived at the conclusion that government should not be involved in that kind of decision-making.

It's clear that you already are against the guy, because he represents a threat to your precious, failing status quo. You're just going to google whatever you can to discredit him. And then, when he becomes leader, you'll swear by everything he does.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Pelosi




Speaker of the House
Nomination
In the 2006 Midterm Elections, the Democrats took control of the House by picking up 31 seats. On November 16, 2006, Pelosi was unanimously chosen by her caucus as the Democratic candidate for Speaker, effectively making her Speaker-elect. While the Speaker is elected by the full House membership, in modern practice the election is a formality, since the Speaker always comes from the majority party.
Pelosi supported her longtime friend John Murtha of Pennsylvania for the position of House Majority Leader, the second-ranking post in the House Democratic caucus. His competitor was House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer of Maryland, who had been Pelosi's second-in-command since 2003.[20] Pelosi and Hoyer had a somewhat frosty relationship dating back to 2001, when they ran against each other for minority whip. However, Hoyer was elected as House Majority Leader over Murtha by a margin of 149–86 within the caucus.[21]
On January 3, Pelosi defeated Republican John Boehner of Ohio with 233 votes compared to his 202 votes in the election for Speaker of the House.[22] She was nominated by Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, the incoming chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, and sworn in by her longtime friend John Dingell of Michigan as the Dean of the House of Representatives traditionally does.


Pelosi (right) with Vice President Dick Cheney behind President George W. Bush at the 2007 State of the Union Address making history as the first woman to sit behind the podium at such an address. President Bush acknowledged this by beginning his speech with the words, "Tonight, I have a high privilege and distinct honor of my own*– as the first President to begin the State of the Union message with these words: Madam Speaker".[23]
With her election, Pelosi became the first woman, the first Californian, and the first Italian-American to hold the Speakership. She is also the second Speaker from a state west of the Rocky Mountains. The first was Washington's Tom Foley, the last Democrat to hold the post before Pelosi.
During her speech, she discussed the historical importance of being the first female to hold the position of Speaker:
"This is a historic moment*– for the Congress, and for the women of this country. It is a moment for which we have waited more than 200 years. Never losing faith, we waited through the many years of struggle to achieve our rights. But women weren't just waiting; women were working. Never losing faith, we worked to redeem the promise of America, that all men and women are created equal. For our daughters and granddaughters, today, we have broken the marble ceiling. For our daughters and our granddaughters, the sky is the limit, anything is possible for them".[24]
She also spoke on Iraq as the major issue facing the 110th Congress, while incorporating some Democratic Party beliefs:
"The election of 2006 was a call to change*– not merely to change the control of Congress, but for a new direction for our country. Nowhere were the American people more clear about the need for a new direction than in Iraq. The American people rejected an open-ended obligation to a war without end."[24]
Tenure
As Speaker, Pelosi was still the leader of the House Democrats; the Speaker is considered to be the leader of his or her House caucus. However, by tradition, she did not normally participate in debate and almost never voted on the floor (though she had every right to as a full House member). She was also not a member of any House committees.
Pelosi was re-elected Speaker in 2009.
A CBS News poll conducted in March 2010 found that 37% of registered voters have an unfavorable opinion of the speaker, with 11% approving.[25] According to a March 2010 Rasmussen poll, 64% of voters nationally view the speaker unfavorably, and 29% have a favorable opinion of Pelosi.[26]
On November 17, 2016, U.S. Representative Tim Ryan (politician) of Ohio's 13th congressional district announced he will seek the bid for Minority Speaker, stating "Over the last 18 years, Democrats have only been in the majority of the House of Representatives for two terms, and last week’s election results set us back even further", "We have lost over 60 seats since 2010. We have the fewest Democrats in state and federal offices since Reconstruction. At this time of fear and disillusionment, we owe it to our constituencies to listen and bring a new voice into leadership." [27]
Social Security Mandate
Shortly after winning re-election, President George W. Bush claimed a mandate for an ambitious second-term agenda and proposed reforming Social Security by allowing workers to redirect a portion of their Social Security withholding into stock and bond investments.[28] Pelosi strongly opposed the plan, saying there was no crisis, and as minority leader she imposed intense party discipline on her caucus, leading them to near-unanimous opposition to Bush's proposal, and subsequent defeat of the proposed plan.[29][30]
Blocking of impeachment proceedings against President Bush
In the wake of President George W. Bush's reelection in 2004, several leading House Democrats believed that Democrats should pursue impeachment proceedings against the president. They asserted that Bush had misled Congress about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and had violated the civil liberties of Americans by authorizing wiretaps without a warrant.
In May 2006, with an eye on the upcoming congressional elections–which offered the possibility of Democrats taking back control of the House for the first time since 1994–Pelosi told colleagues that, while the Democrats would conduct vigorous oversight of Bush administration policy, an impeachment investigation was "off the table". (A week earlier, she had told the Washington Post that, although Democrats would not set out to impeach the president, "you never know where" investigations might lead.)[31]
After becoming Speaker of the House in January 2007, Pelosi held firm against impeachment, notwithstanding strong support for that course of action among constituents in her home district. In the November 2008 election, Pelosi withstood a challenge for her seat by anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan, who ran as an independent primarily because of Pelosi's refusal to pursue impeachment.[32]
The "Hundred Hours"
Main article: 100-Hour Plan
Prior to the U.S. 2006 midterm elections, Pelosi announced a plan for action: If elected, she and the newly empowered Democratic caucus would push through most of its program during the first hundred hours of the 110th Congress' term.[33][34]
The origin for the name "first hundred hours" is a play on words derived from former Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt's promise for quick action on the part of government (to combat the Great Depression) during his "first hundred days" in office. Newt Gingrich, who became Speaker of the House in 1995, had a similar 100-day agenda to implement the Contract with America.
Opposition to Iraq War troop surge of 2007
Main article: Iraq War troop surge of 2007
On January 5, 2007, reacting to suggestions from President Bush's confidantes that he would increase troop levels in Iraq (which he announced in a speech a few days later), Pelosi joined with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to condemn the plan. They sent Bush a letter saying, "[T]here is no purely military solution in Iraq. There is only a political solution. Adding more combat troops will only endanger more Americans and stretch our military to the breaking point for no strategic gain. ... Rather than deploy additional forces to Iraq, we believe the way forward is to begin the phased redeployment of our forces in the next four to six months, while shifting the principal mission of our forces there from combat to training, logistics, force protection and counter-terror."[35]
2008 Democratic National Convention


Pelosi conducts convention business during the first day of the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado.
Pelosi was named Permanent Chair of the 2008 Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado.[36]
Health Care Reform
Pelosi has been credited for spearheading President Obama's health care law when it seemed that it would go down in defeat. After Republican Scott Brown won Democratic Ted Kennedy's former senate seat in the January 2010 Massachusetts special election and thereby causing the Senate Democrats to lose their filibuster proof majority, Obama agreed with then chief of staff Rahm Emanuel's idea that he should do smaller initiatives that could pass easily. Pelosi, however, dismissed the president's fear and instead mocked his scaled-back ideas as "kiddie care." After convincing the president that this would be their only shot at health care because of the large Democratic majorities they currently had, she rallied her Democratic caucus as she began an "unbelievable marathon" of a two-month session to craft the health care bill, which successfully passed the House. In Obama's remarks before signing the bill into law, he specifically credited Pelosi as being "one of the best Speakers the House of Representatives has ever had."[37][38][39]
Post-Speakership career


President Barack Obama meets with Congressional Leadership, July 2011
Though Pelosi was re-elected by a comfortable margin in the 2010 midterm elections, the Democrats lost 63 seats and ceded control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans. Despite the electoral setback suffered by her party, Pelosi sought to continue leading the House Democratic Caucus in the position of Minority Leader, the office she held prior to becoming Speaker. After Pelosi's disparate intra-party opposition failed to pass a motion to delay the leadership vote,[40] Pelosi was elected Minority Leader for the 112th Congress. On November 14, 2012, Pelosi announced she would remain on as Democratic leader
 
He talked w/ Rachel Maddow about that last night. He used to be pro-life, but he's pro-choice now. He talked about the whole process to get to that point; it was incredibly thoughtful for a politician, and clearly, something he put a LOT of time into. He met with single mothers and single women who were considering abortions; he met w/ Planned Parenthood. He really put in the time, and arrived at the conclusion that government should not be involved in that kind of decision-making.

It's clear that you already are against the guy, because he represents a threat to your precious, failing status quo. You're just going to google whatever you can to discredit him. And then, when he becomes leader, you'll swear by everything he does.

so what





nancy is awesome and kicked ass and took names
 
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