This storm called Ian

I don't know any wses.

A clear lie since both you and STY admit to knowing each other for about 20 years. Did you ever meet Stewart Rhodes or Kellye SoRelle? Ever see them in person?

How's your grooming coming along? Deliver any packages? Drive any vehicles? Do anything for them on a regular basis? Nothing too hard, just routine.
 
Hurricane Ian Betting Pool:

How many dead Floridians will Ian produce?
ZERO

1-10

10-20

20-50

50-100

100+


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1 - 10
The link below calls it 6, but CNN just announced 13. It could go higher than my prediction at this rate.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/wea...0220929-bxb55oh7ije63cw5rlefb3zxgm-story.html
Hurricane Ian devastates southwest Florida, leaving at least 6 dead
By Curt Anderson
Sep 29, 2022 at 2:36 pm


Then there's this..but I'll wait for the DeSantis count:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/hundreds-feared-dead-as-tropical-storm-ian-exits-florida/2698392
Hundreds feared dead as Tropical Storm Ian exits Florida
Sheriff of hard-hit county says he 'definitely' knows death toll from former Category 4 hurricane will reach the hundreds
 
So do you think global warming is to blame for this hurricane?

Does it matter to dead dumbasses like this guy?

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/f...ring-hurricane-ian-to-drain-pool-deputies-say
Florida man, 72, dies after going outside during Hurricane Ian to drain pool, deputies say
A 72-year-old Deltona man drowned after officials say he went outside during Hurricane Ian to drain his pool.

Deputies responded to a home on Poinciana Lane near Lake Bethel around 1 a.m. after the victim’s wife reported he disappeared after heading outside.

"While searching for him, deputies found his flashlight, then spotted the victim unresponsive in a canal behind the home," the Volusia County Sheriff's Office said in a news release.

Several deputies pulled the victim from the water and performed CPR until paramedics arrived, but the victim could not be revived. He was later pronounced dead at the hospital.

The investigation indicated that the victim was using a hose to drain the pool down a hill and into a 30-foot-wide canal, where a steep decline into the water was extremely soft and slippery due to the heavy rain.

"The Sheriff’s Office sends its sincere condolences to the victim’s family."
 
The link below calls it 6, but CNN just announced 13. It could go higher than my prediction at this rate.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/wea...0220929-bxb55oh7ije63cw5rlefb3zxgm-story.html
Hurricane Ian devastates southwest Florida, leaving at least 6 dead
By Curt Anderson
Sep 29, 2022 at 2:36 pm


Then there's this..but I'll wait for the DeSantis count:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/hundreds-feared-dead-as-tropical-storm-ian-exits-florida/2698392
Hundreds feared dead as Tropical Storm Ian exits Florida
Sheriff of hard-hit county says he 'definitely' knows death toll from former Category 4 hurricane will reach the hundreds

Well, I did leave room for a margin of error if you recall.
 
Well, I did leave room for a margin of error if you recall.

Me too. Too many variables.

Stupidity is a variable. Like pool guy. Most of the deaths will be in the cleanup but a few may be found drowned hiding in their attics or trying to drive in deep water.
 
Me too. Too many variables.

Stupidity is a variable. Like pool guy. Most of the deaths will be in the cleanup but a few may be found drowned hiding in their attics or trying to drive in deep water.

There will also be those that will count natural deaths and ones not related to the hurricane in the count to inflate it for one reason or another...
 
There will also be those that will count natural deaths and ones not related to the hurricane in the count to inflate it for one reason or another...

Why would DeSantis want to inflate the numbers? To get more handouts from the Feds?

If a geezer is clearing debris around his house and has a heart attack, why do you believe that shouldn't be counted?

If an Army truck driver fell out of his six-by and broke his neck in Iraq, should that not count as line of duty in a war zone?
 
Why would DeSantis want to inflate the numbers? To get more handouts from the Feds?

If a geezer is clearing debris around his house and has a heart attack, why do you believe that shouldn't be counted?

If an Army truck driver fell out of his six-by and broke his neck in Iraq, should that not count as line of duty in a war zone?

DeSantis might not, but the media may to make DeSantis look bad, as one example.

As for your examples, the geezer might have still had the heart attack regardless of the hurricane. This is a Ludic fallacy (sometimes called the Butterfly Effect). So, no that doesn't count.
If an Army truck driver died in an accident, that doesn't make him a battle casualty. Battle casualties are caused by enemy action. Either would count as dying in the line of duty. You were imprecise here.
 
DeSantis might not, but the media may to make DeSantis look bad, as one example.

As for your examples, the geezer might have still had the heart attack regardless of the hurricane. This is a Ludic fallacy (sometimes called the Butterfly Effect). So, no that doesn't count.
If an Army truck driver died in an accident, that doesn't make him a battle casualty. Battle casualties are caused by enemy action. Either would count as dying in the line of duty. You were imprecise here.

"the media"??? ROFLMAO Like the Chinese CDC has a massive LW plot to make Ronnie DeSantis look bad? :rofl2:

Let's see if there's a great difference between Ron's numbers and "the media". I'm guessing it won't be much since both will be getting their figures from the same general Floridian sources.
 
Once again that hateful snitch Dutch turned another good thread into a lame and cowardly thread.
 
I haven't read this thread. I couldn't stand another round of morons denying that it's global warming which is increasing the power of storms.
 
Why would DeSantis want to inflate the numbers? To get more handouts from the Feds?
Word stuffing. He wasn't talking about DeSantis.
If a geezer is clearing debris around his house and has a heart attack, why do you believe that shouldn't be counted?
No.
If an Army truck driver fell out of his six-by and broke his neck in Iraq, should that not count as line of duty in a war zone?
Iraq isn't a war zone.

You are just trolling. You haven't posted anything but insults for weeks.
 
I haven't read this thread. I couldn't stand another round of morons denying that it's global warming which is increasing the power of storms.

No gas or vapor is capable of warming the Earth. You are still ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics. Warmer temperatures do not result in more powerful storms.
 
Simply because these 'experts' are just high priests in the Church of Global Warming, or news reporters that don't know the first thing about science or math.

Apparently you were right:

BP has restarted production at its offshore Na Kika and Thunder Horse oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico after redeploying previously evacuated staff, BP PLC said on Thursday.

BP halted production on the two platforms on Monday ahead of Hurricane Ian that made landfall in Florida on Wednesday.

Chevron had also evacuated personnel and shut its production at its Petronius and Blind Faith platforms in the Gulf ahead of the storm.

As of Thursday, 11 total Gulf of Mexico platforms had been evacuated, representing 2.11% of the total GOM capacity, according to the Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement. Five rigs had been evacuated, representing 35% of the total in the GoM, and 3 DP rigs had been repositioned. A total of 157,706 bpd of oil production had been shut in as of Thursday, along with 128 MMCFD of gas.

A total of 9.12% of the GoM’s oil production had been shut in since Thursday, along with 5.95% of the total gas production.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-O...il-And-Gas-Platforms-After-Hurricane-Ian.html
 
Not what causes a storm surge.

Low barometric pressure associated with storms causes storm surge.

Wrong! Barometric pressure plays a very minimal (around 5%) role with storm surge.

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/surge/surge_intro.pdf

Storm surge is caused primarily by the strong winds in a hurricane or tropical storm. The low pressure of the storm has minimal contribution!

The wind circulation around the eye of a hurricane (left above) blows on the ocean surface and produces a vertical circulation in the ocean (right above). In deep water, there is nothing to disturb this circulation and there is very little indication of storm surge.

Once the hurricane reaches shallower waters near the coast, the vertical circulation in the ocean becomes disrupted by the ocean bottom. The water can no longer go down, so it has nowhere else to go but up and inland

In general, storm surge occurs where winds are blowing onshore. The highest surge tends to occur near the “radius of maximum winds,” or where the strongest winds of the hurricane occur

https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/storms/what-causes-storm-surge

The amount of storm surge that occurs as a hurricane or tropical storm hits a coast depends on many factors, described below. Computer models, such as the National Weather Service SLOSH model (Sea, Lake, and Overland Surges from Hurricanes) take multiple factors into account, allowing forecasters to customize storm surge predictions for particular storms and coasts.

Wind piles up the water.

As winds swirl around a hurricane or tropical storm, seawater is pushed into a mound at the storm’s center. Faster wind is able to pile up more water. Because wind speed determines a hurricane’s category according to the Saffir-Simpson Scale, Category 4 and 5 storms are able to produce a larger mound of water than Category 1 and 2 storms. The mound of water isn’t noticeable out at sea, but as it approaches a coast, the impact is seen as storm surge flooding.

Low air pressure also plays a role.

At the center of a hurricane, air pressure is low. Low air pressure causes a slight bulge in the ocean, which adds to the mound of water that causes storm surge. Most of the water is piled up by wind, but about 5% of the mound is due to low air pressure.


The shape of the coastline makes a difference.

Larger storm surges are more likely along coasts that bow inward than those that bow outward. Places with bays are especially vulnerable because the mound of water can get funneled into a small area.

The shape of the seafloor matters, too.

Coastal areas where the adjacent seafloor is shallow are more likely to be affected by large storm surges than coastal areas where the nearby seafloor is deep.

Is the hurricane heading straight for the coast?

The angle of approach makes a difference. A hurricane that heads straight toward a coastline is more likely to cause a large storm surge than a hurricane that hits the coast at an oblique angle or travels parallel to the coast.

The hurricane’s speed matters, but it’s complicated.

Fast-moving storms can cause more storm surge on straight coastlines. Slow moving storms tend to cause more storm surge in coastal areas with bays and estuaries.

Educate yourself next time.
 
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