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you said NON police...now you're changing what you asked me
so you question is shit
This is why more cops should be killed
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you said NON police...now you're changing what you asked me
so you question is shit
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Come to China and threaten our police with death, coward.
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YP, your gov't will use tanks to run over unarmed, peaceful protesters.
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Does anyone actually believe these cops would have shot him if they had known it was a hose nozzle??
Gee Whiz...we had a case here where a guy shot and killed a uniformed deputy several years back. It came to light that the deputy was dirty and instigated the contact and thus the guy who shot him was exonerated. un-uniformed kills uniform and gets off...because he is innocent. Great.
But this case is nothing like that. Have you looked at that pic of the actual nozzel Damo posted? There is no way any cop would be able to tell it wasn't a weapon. It's a bad deal that the guy was killed but I certainly cannot blame the police officers and I don't think you'll find but a handful of people who would....and their outlooks on society would be suspect, IMO.
But this case is nothing like that. Have you looked at that pic of the actual nozzel Damo posted? There is no way any cop would be able to tell it wasn't a weapon. It's a bad deal that the guy was killed but I certainly cannot blame the police officers and I don't think you'll find but a handful of people who would....and their outlooks on society would be suspect, IMO.
Silliness, if some dude pointed this thing at you from even 50 ft away you'd have shot the dude. The standards you hold them to are well beyond reasonable in this case. I put up the picture, it isn't reasonable to expect them to somehow magically know that thing wasn't a gun when he pointed it at them.
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I don't accept that the guy threatened them. Some guy sitting on a porch and playing around with a hose nozzle like it's a gun is something I can understand being mistaken, but the police do not get to shoot first and ask questions later. Their lives are no more important than an innocent person mocking a pistol with a garden implement.
The fucking police are trained to recognize guns. Lots of items look like guns. Toy guns look like guns.
The police we not even noticed by the guy! how could he have threatened them?
They are trigger happy and if they get the nod from assholes like you, they're going to get away with murder.
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Selective reading? The man pointed the "gun" at the cops. That is when they shot him.
This idea that police training somehow gives cops a magical ability to discern what is or is not a gun is pure bullshit. You want to claim they have no special priviledges, but at the same time you expect them to have special abilities.
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according to eye witnesses, he pointed the nozzle right at them with a two handed outstretched sitting stance
where are you getting your facts from?
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WinterBorn
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When you point what appears to be a gun at someone, they shoot you. Whether they identified themselves or not is really not an issue.
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http://www.dailybreeze.com/latestnews/ci_16849588
"McDonnell said officers were called to the 5300 block of East Ocean Boulevard at about 4:40 p.m. after two residents in a nearby unit saw what they believed to be a man with a gun sitting on their neighbor's second-story porch.
"The person who called said a subject with a gun who was unknown to him was on a stairway landing to the rear of the location," the chief said, adding that portions of the recording not played Monday included the caller's name.
In the portion of the call played for reporters the caller told a dispatcher that a man with a gun was sitting on his neighbor's second-story landing and swaying back and forth. "It looks like a little tiny six-shooter," the caller said, describing what he thought was a gun."
"The chief said he did not yet know how far the officers were from Zerby, but if the neighbors who told Zerby's family were correct and the officers were 30 to 40 feet away their Taser would not have been effective from that distance. "
So cops are expected to be able to identify a small item that is mostly covered by the persons hands, at a distance of 30 to 40 feet?
This was a justified shooting.
"McDonnell said officers were called to the 5300 block of East Ocean Boulevard at about 4:40 p.m. after two residents in a nearby unit saw what they believed to be a man with a gun sitting on their neighbor's second-story porch.
"The person who called said a subject with a gun who was unknown to him was on a stairway landing to the rear of the location," the chief said, adding that portions of the recording not played Monday included the caller's name.
In the portion of the call played for reporters the caller told a dispatcher that a man with a gun was sitting on his neighbor's second-story landing and swaying back and forth. "It looks like a little tiny six-shooter," the caller said, describing what he thought was a gun."
"The chief said he did not yet know how far the officers were from Zerby, but if the neighbors who told Zerby's family were correct and the officers were 30 to 40 feet away their Taser would not have been effective from that distance. "
So cops are expected to be able to identify a small item that is mostly covered by the persons hands, at a distance of 30 to 40 feet?
This was a justified shooting.
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WinterBorn
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So unless shots are fired the cops should assume its not a gun?
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WinterBorn
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So they should wait until the suspect fires at them?
You realize that, at 30 to 40 feet, that will get a cop killed pretty freakin often?
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And IF it was a gun as the people who called 911 suggested and his first shots were into an apartment that killed other innocent people... what would your comments about the cops be in that case?
If he had a gun, as reported, then other people were in danger. The cops are there to PROTECT and serve.
[sarcasm]Don't you get it Winter? Just because someone, an intoxicated and/or impaired someone at that....someone whom the neighbors were concerned enough about to call the law, ... just because he points what really looks to be a gun at you, you should wait for a shot before you react. You should chance your well being as well as the well being of those who might be in the area. After all, you're a cop. You don't have the right or the need to protect yourself. You just don't get it, do you?[/sarcasm]