this is why federal agencies need to be reigned in or dismantled

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/invest...fbi-us-marshals-shroud-shootings-s-rcna123818

Defying presidents and Congress, the ATF, DEA, FBI and U.S. marshals shroud their shootings in secrecy
Despite nearly 30 years of demands for transparency, the DOJ's law enforcement agencies release little data about whom they shoot, why and when, and they rarely use body cameras.

Had they been local police shootings, they might have generated public demands to release body camera video and use-of-force investigation reports. But they were federal operations, conducted by agents and task forces with four federal law enforcement agencies — the FBI, the ATF, the DEA and the U.S. Marshals Service — in which the use of force remains largely a black box, free from public scrutiny.

Congress and a string of presidents for nearly 30 years have been pushing federal law enforcement to reform and become more transparent. But those four agencies overseen by the Justice Department, among the most prestigious in the country, have been slow to adopt reforms long embraced by big-city police departments, such as the use of body cameras and the release of comprehensive use-of-force data.

To understand how often federal officers and their task forces use deadly force, NBC News built a database of shootings that involved officers working for or with the ATF, the DEA, the FBI and the Marshals Service by reviewing five years’ worth of public documents, news releases, lawsuits and news reports.

From 2018 to 2022, 223 people were shot by an on-duty federal officer, a member of a federal task force or a local officer participating in an operation with federal agents, according to an NBC News analysis. A total of 151 were killed, an average of 30 per year.

Examinations of the incidents revealed that the Justice Department’s law enforcement agencies continue to use tactics that many big-city police departments now shun. They have fired at moving cars and shot people within seconds of encounters — without taking steps to de-escalate the situations.

Some federal law enforcement practices have generated disputes with local police chiefs, in addition to civil rights leaders, who question why federal officers aren’t held to the same standards as state and city law enforcement officers.

Although the Justice Department has forced local law enforcement, like the Baltimore and Los Angeles police departments, to reform, its own agencies are legally exempt from similar oversight. The use-of-force data the Justice Department agencies publish is so limited that it is hard to determine who was shot, why, when and by whom.
 
It isn't just law enforcement either. One of the most rogue agencies in the federal government is the EPA. They refuse to give Congress data and research on how they came to a regulatory decision all the time.

US House Republicans blast EPA refusal to appear at EV hearing
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ep...se-hearing-evs-emissions-proposal-2023-05-16/

EPA refuses to give Congress documents on rejection of NASA flight after Hurricane Harvey
file:///C:/Users/tgard/Downloads/2019-06-epa-congress-documents-nasa-flight.pdf

The Black Box
EPA defies Congress on “secret science” used to justify environmental regulations

https://capitalresearch.org/article...ce-used-to-justify-environmental-regulations/

The EPA doesn't want Congress or the public to know what they're up to when it comes to new regulations.
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/invest...fbi-us-marshals-shroud-shootings-s-rcna123818

Defying presidents and Congress, the ATF, DEA, FBI and U.S. marshals shroud their shootings in secrecy
Despite nearly 30 years of demands for transparency, the DOJ's law enforcement agencies release little data about whom they shoot, why and when, and they rarely use body cameras.

Had they been local police shootings, they might have generated public demands to release body camera video and use-of-force investigation reports. But they were federal operations, conducted by agents and task forces with four federal law enforcement agencies — the FBI, the ATF, the DEA and the U.S. Marshals Service — in which the use of force remains largely a black box, free from public scrutiny.

Congress and a string of presidents for nearly 30 years have been pushing federal law enforcement to reform and become more transparent. But those four agencies overseen by the Justice Department, among the most prestigious in the country, have been slow to adopt reforms long embraced by big-city police departments, such as the use of body cameras and the release of comprehensive use-of-force data.

To understand how often federal officers and their task forces use deadly force, NBC News built a database of shootings that involved officers working for or with the ATF, the DEA, the FBI and the Marshals Service by reviewing five years’ worth of public documents, news releases, lawsuits and news reports.

From 2018 to 2022, 223 people were shot by an on-duty federal officer, a member of a federal task force or a local officer participating in an operation with federal agents, according to an NBC News analysis. A total of 151 were killed, an average of 30 per year.

Examinations of the incidents revealed that the Justice Department’s law enforcement agencies continue to use tactics that many big-city police departments now shun. They have fired at moving cars and shot people within seconds of encounters — without taking steps to de-escalate the situations.

Some federal law enforcement practices have generated disputes with local police chiefs, in addition to civil rights leaders, who question why federal officers aren’t held to the same standards as state and city law enforcement officers.

Although the Justice Department has forced local law enforcement, like the Baltimore and Los Angeles police departments, to reform, its own agencies are legally exempt from similar oversight. The use-of-force data the Justice Department agencies publish is so limited that it is hard to determine who was shot, why, when and by whom.

Shut them all down. The left seems to love chaos so let's give them chaos.
 
And yet another globalist, Corporate talking point, in favor of dismantling any and all agencies that can in any way impact their profit motives, whether it be citizen protection, country protection or climate protection or other, becomes instantly picked up by the Magat Derp brigade and adopted by them, without them having a clue what dupes they are and how easily they are co-opted and grifted.
 
And yet another globalist, Corporate talking point, in favor of dismantling any and all agencies that can in any way impact their profit motives, whether it be citizen protection, country protection or climate protection or other, becomes instantly picked up by the Magat Derp brigade and adopted by them, without them having a clue what dupes they are and how easily they are co-opted and grifted.

They think Trump is a Philosopher King.
 
And yet another globalist, Corporate talking point, in favor of dismantling any and all agencies that can in any way impact their profit motives, whether it be citizen protection, country protection or climate protection or other, becomes instantly picked up by the Magat Derp brigade and adopted by them, without them having a clue what dupes they are and how easily they are co-opted and grifted.

Yes, but STY is a super cool LIBERTARIAN. Because, you know, Libertarians have been so incredibly successful in winning elections.

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

But again, my goal to open a meth plant will certainly be helped by this and other Libertarian talking points. I can't wait to dump all those chemicals in a river somewhere in the south and see what impact it has on inbreeding.
 
Yes, but STY is a super cool LIBERTARIAN. Because, you know, Libertarians have been so incredibly successful in winning elections.

:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

But again, my goal to open a meth plant will certainly be helped by this and other Libertarian talking points. I can't wait to dump all those chemicals in a river somewhere in the south and see what impact it has on inbreeding.

Miss those good ole days, when corporations could just dump all their toxins in the water or land, destroy an area and then just move. We do not need corporations using profits for stuff like safe disposal. Geez. MAGA!
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/invest...fbi-us-marshals-shroud-shootings-s-rcna123818

Defying presidents and Congress, the ATF, DEA, FBI and U.S. marshals shroud their shootings in secrecy
Despite nearly 30 years of demands for transparency, the DOJ's law enforcement agencies release little data about whom they shoot, why and when, and they rarely use body cameras.

Had they been local police shootings, they might have generated public demands to release body camera video and use-of-force investigation reports. But they were federal operations, conducted by agents and task forces with four federal law enforcement agencies — the FBI, the ATF, the DEA and the U.S. Marshals Service — in which the use of force remains largely a black box, free from public scrutiny.

Congress and a string of presidents for nearly 30 years have been pushing federal law enforcement to reform and become more transparent. But those four agencies overseen by the Justice Department, among the most prestigious in the country, have been slow to adopt reforms long embraced by big-city police departments, such as the use of body cameras and the release of comprehensive use-of-force data.

To understand how often federal officers and their task forces use deadly force, NBC News built a database of shootings that involved officers working for or with the ATF, the DEA, the FBI and the Marshals Service by reviewing five years’ worth of public documents, news releases, lawsuits and news reports.

From 2018 to 2022, 223 people were shot by an on-duty federal officer, a member of a federal task force or a local officer participating in an operation with federal agents, according to an NBC News analysis. A total of 151 were killed, an average of 30 per year.

Examinations of the incidents revealed that the Justice Department’s law enforcement agencies continue to use tactics that many big-city police departments now shun. They have fired at moving cars and shot people within seconds of encounters — without taking steps to de-escalate the situations.

Some federal law enforcement practices have generated disputes with local police chiefs, in addition to civil rights leaders, who question why federal officers aren’t held to the same standards as state and city law enforcement officers.

Although the Justice Department has forced local law enforcement, like the Baltimore and Los Angeles police departments, to reform, its own agencies are legally exempt from similar oversight. The use-of-force data the Justice Department agencies publish is so limited that it is hard to determine who was shot, why, when and by whom.

So because you don’t have full access to how and why thirty people a year are killed by an array of Federal agencie, and you are assuming they all are suspicious deaths, you want to dismantle the FBI
 
Miss those good ole days, when corporations could just dump all their toxins in the water or land, destroy an area and then just move. We do not need corporations using profits for stuff like safe disposal. Geez. MAGA!

It gets better for me. No OSHA? No problem!!! I just hire kids, they are easily replaceable in the event of an 'incident' in the workplace. Plus, they are much less likely to be on meth when I hire them. I don't want to execute anyone for theft. Distribution might be difficult, so I'll just arm my dealers with semi-automatic weapons. Problem solved. So hopefully libertarians can take power. Said no one ever.
 
It gets better for me. No OSHA? No problem!!! I just hire kids, they are easily replaceable in the event of an 'incident' in the workplace. Plus, they are much less likely to be on meth when I hire them. I don't want to execute anyone for theft. Distribution might be difficult, so I'll just arm my dealers with semi-automatic weapons. Problem solved. So hopefully libertarians can take power. Said no one ever.

Yup. Always remember the Red States have a plan to fill the gap, as they close the door to temporary migrant labor and get rid of any rules limiting what corporations can do harkening back to the 'good ole days'...


MAGA!
 
Yup. Always remember the Red States have a plan to fill the gap, as they close the door to temporary migrant labor and get rid of any rules limiting what corporations can do harkening back to the 'good ole days'...



MAGA!

sounds like full employment and rising wages for citizens to me.


simply awful.....
:tardthoughts:
 
sounds like full employment and rising wages for citizens to me.


simply awful.....
:tardthoughts:

Yup.

Couple that with getting rid of the agency that monitor and enforce child protection labor laws, ...heck just scrap the laws... and you have happy corporations who can create 'worker bees for life' just the way they like them. Dumb and dependant and STUCK.

The Child Labor Safety Act
Representative Bruce Braley (D-IA) introduced the Child Labor Safety Act. The act would increase from $11,000 to $50,000 the maximum civil penalty for each employee who is subject to a violation of the child labor provisions of the FLSA. The bill would also raise from $50,000 to $100,000 the maximum penalty for each violation that causes the death or serious injury of any employee under the age of 18. The measure would impose criminal penalties (a maximum fine of $50,000 or imprisonment for up to six months) for violations of child labor law. The bill was introduced on September 10, 2008, and was referred to the Committee on Education and Labor...
MAGA!
 
Yup.

Couple that with getting rid of the agency that monitor and enforce child protection labor laws, ...heck just scrap the laws... and you have happy corporations who can create 'worker bees for life' just the way they like them. Dumb and dependant and STUCK.


MAGA!

are laws are not the same.

you can have firm immigration laws and still have workplace conditions and child labor laws.
 
are laws are not the same.

you can have firm immigration laws and still have workplace conditions and child labor laws.

Unless...

UNLESS you diminish and dismantle the agency that enforces child labor laws in a series of steps to appease your Corporate overlords.

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Checkmate kids!

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it's not a huge issue. local pd can do it.

it doesnt take a gaggle of d.c. retard marxists to protect children.

it;s basic law enforcement.

and we also will not allow the genital mutilation of the gay children like you freaks prefer.

You missed the part where Red States are trying to dismantle and weaken those laws, so there is no recourse if children are killed, harmed or abused in the workplace.


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You missed the part where Red States are trying to dismantle and weaken those laws, so there is no recourse if children are killed, harmed or abused in the workplace.



Oh they got you at the State level too!

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those functions don't need be performed by d.c. fed retards.

that's the point, idiotstick.

fed involvement just guarantees things WON'T get done.

like federal border protection.

or federal education.

nearly always bad.
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