They claim the American left don’t believe in God.

[Ross Dolan]

Not reading beyond that as you saying i MUST use your answer even if does not fit my view or it is not a "real answer" proves you have no interest in discussion and only telling me what my view must be.

4 - there is simply zero evidence for any other god'

Is absolutely an answer and is my authentic answer to your question below...

That is not an answer to the question I asked...not at all.

Here is the question:

Are there any gods involved in the REALITY of existence?

Saying "there is simply zero evidence for any other god" does not in any way answer that question. And I obviously am interested in YOUR answer...or I would not be asking the question repeatedly.

Here are my suggested answers that actually are answers. There may be others that answer the question, but let them at least answer the question.

1) Yes there is at least one GOD involved.
2) No, there are no gods involved.
3) Beats the shit out of me.

Now i will play like you do so you answer my question.

Okay, let's see how you do.

Is your view of God's answer

What???

Why are you asking me about an answer given by "God?" I do not even know if a god exists...I certainly do not know if one does exist, whether it would give answers...and I do not know what question you think the god answered.

1) he does not exist

He? If there is a God...I would suspect it better to use the pronoun "It."

Are you suggesting there is a God...and that in answer to some question, It replied, "I do not exist?"

2) he exists but is spaghetti

You really do not have the knack of this yet, QP. Do this quiz over again. I am anxious to give you the information you apparently are looking for clearly and concisely. But I do not understand what you are looking for.

ANYONE READING THIS: If you can help me understand what QP is asking here, please do so.

3) he is Xeon

Now answer with one of those answers only or prove you have no interest in this discussion.

I have tremendous interest in this discussion...which is why I pressed for it so forcefully. You are not being clear. Ask the questions you want to ask...AND TAKE A SHOT AT ACTUALLY ANSWERING THE ONE I ASKED.

 

[TOP]

Why?

I will assume you believe in a singular god, and there have been many civilizations who have believed in dozens of gods (god of fire, god of water, etc, etc), so if they said of you "what a blessing to not be one who believes in only a single god' would you agree with that sentiment that somehow it was deficient to not believe what they do?

Or would you reply to them that your belief in one god is the perfect spot? That those like you hold the only valid position?

I do.
It is a blessing tonot be one of those who have thrown away their faith , and now believe in nothing...

 

[QP!]

That is not an answer to the question I asked...not at all.

Here is the question:

Are there any gods involved in the REALITY of existence?

Saying "there is simply zero evidence for any other god" does not in any way answer that question. And I obviously am interested in YOUR answer...or I would not be asking the question repeatedly.

Here are my suggested answers that actually are answers. There may be others that answer the question, but let them at least answer the question.

1) Yes there is at least one GOD involved.
2) No, there are no gods involved.
3) Beats the shit out of me.




Okay, let's see how you do.


What???

Why are you asking me about an answer given by "God?" I do not even know if a god exists...I certainly do not know if one does exist, whether it would give answers...and I do not know what question you think the god answered.


He? If there is a God...I would suspect it better to use the pronoun "It."

Are you suggesting there is a God...and that in answer to some question, It replied, "I do not exist?"


You really do not have the knack of this yet, QP. Do this quiz over again. I am anxious to give you the information you apparently are looking for clearly and concisely. But I do not understand what you are looking for.

ANYONE READING THIS: If you can help me understand what QP is asking here, please do so.

I have tremendous interest in this discussion...which is why I pressed for it so forcefully. You are not being clear. Ask the questions you want to ask...AND TAKE A SHOT AT ACTUALLY ANSWERING THE ONE I ASKED.

Your question presupposes a God exists and then asks me to opine if they were involved in the reality of existence.

If as a priori to your question i do not have any information that would lead me to believe a god exists, i stop at that point in your question and clarify, with what is my proper answer.


It would be like me asking you if you believe aliens exist on planet XYZ and you replying 'well i do not believe in aliens ' and stopping there as that answers the questions fully WITHOUT addressing any specific planet.

You then reply 'BUT I DEMAND YOU TELL ME ABOUT PLANET XYZ' as you think you get to dictate answers and you DO NOT.

And see you did not stick to the answers i demanded you give to my question so you are the same as me. You will answer questions with YOUR answer and not the one someone else tells you are limited to.

 

[christiefan915]

No need for you to confirm undersnding.

Who’s focused on material wealth? If you don’t have it, the PP has 0 respect for you.

He only works with the wealthy.

She doesn't understand what you mean by PP.

 

[QP!]

I do.
It is a blessing tonot be one of those who have thrown away their faith , and now believe in nothing...

Right.

So it is fine to not believe in 99,999 of 100,000 gods that have been believed in (or whatever the number is) but it becomes 'sad' if you go that extra step to the last singular one. That last one is the one we must hold to.

Anyone not recognizing the stupidity of that position is ... well... stupid.

 

[christiefan915]

Like PP claiming to be a Christian so he can take advantage of believers.

That Pharisee with his "trump Bible" is an abomination.

The God Bless the U.S.A. Bible, also known as the Trump Bible, is an anthology or compilation of texts—some of them deliberately incomplete—in the realm of American Civil Religion and Trumpism, containing an edition of the King James Version of the Christian Bible, alongside texts related to the foundation and politics of the United States such as a purposefully incomplete version of the Constitution of the United States, the Declaration of Independence, and the Pledge of Allegiance. The compilation was created by country music singer-songwriter Lee Greenwood and first published in 2021. It was later marketed by Donald Trump under his brand name and promoted as part of his 2024 presidential campaign.

 

[Truth Detector]

Define God?

Does the PP behave like he believes in “God”?

I know he gives lip service to “God” but do you really believe that.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8BwqzzqcDs

 

[Jarod]

That Pharisee with his "trump Bible" is an abomination.

The God Bless the U.S.A. Bible, also known as the Trump Bible, is an anthology or compilation of texts—some of them deliberately incomplete—in the realm of American Civil Religion and Trumpism, containing an edition of the King James Version of the Christian Bible, alongside texts related to the foundation and politics of the United States such as a purposefully incomplete version of the Constitution of the United States, the Declaration of Independence, and the Pledge of Allegiance. The compilation was created by country music singer-songwriter Lee Greenwood and first published in 2021. It was later marketed by Donald Trump under his brand name and promoted as part of his 2024 presidential campaign.

Typical demigod, rewriting the bible?

 

[QP!]

@Ross Dolan since you claim there is ton of evidence for God's existence please cite one example.

And lets note that "evidence" in this regard would be the standard of evidence to prove ANYTHING exists otherwise known as 'scientific evidence'.



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AI Overview:

In science, evidence refers to the empirical data and observations that are systematically collected through rigorous scientific methods, such as experiments and field studies, and which serve to support or refute a scientific hypothesis or theory. Scientific evidence is the foundation for objective and unbiased explanations of the natural world.

Key Characteristics of Scientific Evidence

• Empirical: Evidence must be based on information acquired by observation or experimentation, rather than opinion or anecdote.
• Objective and Unbiased: Data collection and analysis must be conducted in a way that minimizes bias to ensure the results represent the "true" situation.
• Reproducible and Verifiable: The results and data must be obtained through methods that can be replicated and verified by other independent researchers.
• Relevant and Reliable: The information must be relevant to the specific claim or hypothesis being investigated, and the methods used to gather it must be reliable and accurate.
• Subject to Peer Review: Findings are typically published in peer-reviewed journals, allowing other qualified experts to assess the validity of the methods and conclusions before they are widely accepted as evidence.

 

[Truth Detector]

I don’t see how any follower of Christ could be a supporter of the PP.

Why? Be specific.

I don't see how anyone with even half a brain can support Democrats.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Your question presupposes a God exists and then asks me to opine if they were involved in the reality of existence.

It does no such thing. Stop stalling. You agreed to a discussion. Answer the question.

If as a priori to your question i do not have any information that would lead me to believe a god exists, i stop at that point in your question and clarify.

That is nonsense, because I never even remotely suggested a god exists. EVER. It is almost incomprehensible that you would suggest that I have.

It would be like me asking you if you believe aliens exist on planet XYZ and you replying 'well i do not believe in aliens ' and stopping there as that answers the questions fully WITHOUT addressing any specific planet.

Get control. You are not dealing with a religionist here where you can pull that shit.

I have never presupposed the existence of a god.

Read the question again...and get help if you cannot understand it.

You then reply 'BUT I DEMAND YOU TELL ME ABOUT PLANET XYZ' as you think you get to dictate answers and you DO NOT.

The bullshit is not going to work with me, Q.

Answer the question.

And see you did not stick to the answers i demanded you give to my question so you are the same as me. You will answer questions with YOUR answer and not the one someone else tells you are limited to.

I do not even understand your "question." It makes no sense. Re-write the question in a way it can be understood.

 

[christiefan915]

His own version? Are you suggesting he has his own interpretation of the Bible. The Bible that Trump sells is a KJV. That is a King James Version for all you heathens. .

It's an altered version of the KJV, and since when does any legitimate bible include fake texts about US politics?

"The God Bless the U.S.A. Bible, also known as the Trump Bible, is an anthology or compilation of texts—some of them deliberately incomplete—in the realm of American Civil Religion and Trumpism, containing an edition of the King James Version of the Christian Bible, alongside texts related to the foundation and politics of the United States such as a purposefully incomplete Constitution of the United States, the Declaration of Independence, and the Pledge of Allegiance.

 

[Ross Dolan]

@Ross Dolan since you claim there is ton of evidence for God's existence please cite one example.

IF a creator god exists (something we do not know)...then EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS...is evidence of that god.

And lets note that "evidence" in this regard would be the standard of evidence to prove ANYTHING exists otherwise known as 'scientific evidence'.

IF A CREATOR GOD EXISTS...THEN EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS IS EVIDENCE OF THAT GOD.

Totally logical. The problem is that we do not know if any gods exist.

That does not prevent religionists from blindly guessing that at least one does...nor prevent people who describe themselves as atheists from blindly guessing that none do...or that it is more likely that none do than that at least one does.

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AI Overview:

In science, evidence refers to the empirical data and observations that are systematically collected through rigorous scientific methods, such as experiments and field studies, and which serve to support or refute a scientific hypothesis or theory. Scientific evidence is the foundation for objective and unbiased explanations of the natural world.

Key Characteristics of Scientific Evidence

• Empirical: Evidence must be based on information acquired by observation or experimentation, rather than opinion or anecdote.
• Objective and Unbiased: Data collection and analysis must be conducted in a way that minimizes bias to ensure the results represent the "true" situation.
• Reproducible and Verifiable: The results and data must be obtained through methods that can be replicated and verified by other independent researchers.
• Relevant and Reliable: The information must be relevant to the specific claim or hypothesis being investigated, and the methods used to gather it must be reliable and accurate.
• Subject to Peer Review: Findings are typically published in peer-reviewed journals, allowing other qualified experts to assess the validity of the methods and conclusions before they are widely accepted as evidence.

Always pay attention to the predicates of questions. Otherwise you screw up the way you are screwing up.

 

[christiefan915]

include it in what?

The trump bible.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

That is not an answer to the question I asked...not at all.

Here is the question:

Are there any gods involved in the REALITY of existence?

Saying "there is simply zero evidence for any other god" does not in any way answer that question. And I obviously am interested in YOUR answer...or I would not be asking the question repeatedly.

Here are my suggested answers that actually are answers. There may be others that answer the question, but let them at least answer the question.

1) Yes there is at least one GOD involved.
2) No, there are no gods involved.
3) Beats the shit out of me.




Okay, let's see how you do.


What???

Why are you asking me about an answer given by "God?" I do not even know if a god exists...I certainly do not know if one does exist, whether it would give answers...and I do not know what question you think the god answered.


He? If there is a God...I would suspect it better to use the pronoun "It."

Are you suggesting there is a God...and that in answer to some question, It replied, "I do not exist?"


You really do not have the knack of this yet, QP. Do this quiz over again. I am anxious to give you the information you apparently are looking for clearly and concisely. But I do not understand what you are looking for.

ANYONE READING THIS: If you can help me understand what QP is asking here, please do so.

I have tremendous interest in this discussion...which is why I pressed for it so forcefully. You are not being clear. Ask the questions you want to ask...AND TAKE A SHOT AT ACTUALLY ANSWERING THE ONE I ASKED.

he's saying that even having a word god, is theistic, and already biased.

they're trying to destroy even the concept of a god.

the word. they want the word "god" to not exist.

just like Latinx, or trying to redefine inflation.

 

[Cypress]

That is not an answer to the question I asked...not at all.
Here is the question:
Are there any gods involved in the REALITY of existence?
Saying "there is simply zero evidence for any other god" does not in any way answer that question.

It's a very simple Yes/No/I don't know question.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Absolutely....

but not Zionism.

they're all with Nick.

 

[QP!]

It does no such thing. Stop stalling. You agreed to a discussion. Answer the question.


That is nonsense, because I never even remotely suggested a god exists. EVER. It is almost incomprehensible that you would suggest that I have.


Get control. You are not dealing with a religionist here where you can pull that shit.

I have never presupposed the existence of a god.

Read the question again...and get help if you cannot understand it.


The bullshit is not going to work with me, Q.

Answer the question.

I do not even understand your "question." It makes no sense. Re-write the question in a way it can be understood.

You just simply do not understand the question you asked then.

When you start with "Are there any XYZ..."

And i do not have a belief in XYZ whether it be gods or aliens or a Conspiracy theory, it is absolutely the proper answer for me to stop you at that point there and say "i do not hold a belief in XYZ' as that answer ANY AND ALL questions you might ask after.

If i do not believe 'the earth is flat' and i stop you there you wanting to me to opine on 1 or 10 examples you want to follow up with CHANGES NOTHING, as my answer stops at me not holding that belief and thus the examples are irrelevant. You can simply cut and paste my first reply to all of them.

 

[QP!]

Ross Dolan : QP i am going to give you 10 examples of why i believe in conspiracy theory XYZ and want to know if you believe in XYZ.

QP : Not necessary. I do not believe in XYZ and that is my answer.

Ross Dolan : Waaaaa do not say that. Let me give my 10 examples and DO NOT answer you do not believe in XYZ as an answer and instead engage what i raise.

QP : but if i do not believe in XYZ that answers it

Ross : Waaaa you are not playing by my rules. I DEMAND you play by my rules.

 

[FastLane]

It's an altered version of the KJV, and since when does any legitimate bible include fake texts about US politics?

"The God Bless the U.S.A. Bible, also known as the Trump Bible, is an anthology or compilation of texts—some of them deliberately incomplete—in the realm of American Civil Religion and Trumpism, containing an edition of the King James Version of the Christian Bible, alongside texts related to the foundation and politics of the United States such as a purposefully incomplete Constitution of the United States, the Declaration of Independence, and the Pledge of Allegiance.

Are you suggesting it does not have a COMPLETE KJV in it along with the study section? Are you aware there are hundreds of Bibles that have extra study sections with them. I have a couple myself. Everyone that I have seen clearly labels the KJV and the study sections separately.