There is no reason to accept the assurances of MAGA-Neocons that the bombing of Iran was a glorious victory

Really? You who stood by electing someone with a fucking stroke? Just because he was democrat? Hopefully all democrat politicans will have some strokes. Seems to get that liberal disease out of the mind and bring them back to center.
Check yourself, you frothing hypocrite. All you malicious magat phonies who excoriated him because he had a stroke are now loving him for speaking against Dems. You are now publicly supporting the man that you formerly called a brain dead zombie. You weirdos all disgust me. 🤮

"Arizona Democratic Senator Ruben Gallego says that Republicans are actively attempting to sway Pennsylvania Democratic Senator John Fetterman to the right, bluntly stating "of course" when asked if the GOP is trying to sway Fetterman their way.

These comments come as Fetterman faces growing criticism from fellow Democrats and questions about his health, while receiving unusual public support from Republican senators."
 

The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?​


President Donald Trump has done what he swore he would not do: involve the United States in a war in the Middle East.

His supporters will tie themselves in knots (as Vice President J. D. Vance did last week) trying to jam the square peg of Trump’s promises into the round hole of his actions.

And many of them may avoid calling this “war” at all, even though that’s what Trump himself called it tonight. They will want to see it as a quick win against an obstinate regime that will eventually declare bygones and come to the table. But whether bombing Iran was a good idea or a bad idea—and it could turn out to be either, or both—it is war by any definition of the term, and something Trump had vowed he would avoid.

So what’s next?

Before considering the range of possibilities, it’s important to recognize how much we cannot know at this moment.

The president’s statement tonight was a farrago of contradictions: He said, for example, that the main Iranian nuclear sites were “completely and totally obliterated”—but it will take time to assess the damage, and he has no way of knowing this.

He claimed that the Iranian program has been destroyed—but added that there are still “many targets” left. He said that Iran could suffer even more in the coming days—but the White House has reportedly assured Iran through back channels that these strikes were, basically, a one-and-done, and that no further U.S. action is forthcoming.


As always, Trump talks through his asshole. Reports are that the main target is damaged, not destroyed.
 
As always, Trump talks through his asshole. Reports are that the main target is damaged, not destroyed.
Iranians had two decades to harden and disperse their operations.

This is Israel's war, and it's understandable because of Iranian support for Hamas. But just because Israel is an ally doesn't mean we have to commit our military to actively joining their war.
 

The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?​


President Donald Trump has done what he swore he would not do: involve the United States in a war in the Middle East.

His supporters will tie themselves in knots (as Vice President J. D. Vance did last week) trying to jam the square peg of Trump’s promises into the round hole of his actions.

And many of them may avoid calling this “war” at all, even though that’s what Trump himself called it tonight. They will want to see it as a quick win against an obstinate regime that will eventually declare bygones and come to the table. But whether bombing Iran was a good idea or a bad idea—and it could turn out to be either, or both—it is war by any definition of the term, and something Trump had vowed he would avoid.

So what’s next?

Before considering the range of possibilities, it’s important to recognize how much we cannot know at this moment.

The president’s statement tonight was a farrago of contradictions: He said, for example, that the main Iranian nuclear sites were “completely and totally obliterated”—but it will take time to assess the damage, and he has no way of knowing this.

He claimed that the Iranian program has been destroyed—but added that there are still “many targets” left. He said that Iran could suffer even more in the coming days—but the White House has reportedly assured Iran through back channels that these strikes were, basically, a one-and-done, and that no further U.S. action is forthcoming.


You mean you are not buying Trump’s “peace thru strength” theme?

Who knows what will follow, but to claim we are not at war after bombing another country borders on absurdity
 
I was told a lot of lies by Neocons in the run-up to the Iraq war, and it taught me to take claims by MAGA-Neocons with a grain of salt.
The fact is our intelligence agency said Iran did not have nukes and was not close to making them. That is why Tulsi's is absent from every presser. She told Trump that she is going away, perhaps to El Salvador.
 
Easy words to write, but I've never seen you start a thread openly opposing any significant action Trump has taken or proposed.
Nope. I haven't started a thread.
So what's your point?
Must I start a thread about every action I disagree
with just to make you happy? That's not gonna happen.
Cry all you want, but the fact remains you are a lunatic.
 

The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?​


President Donald Trump has done what he swore he would not do: involve the United States in a war in the Middle East.

His supporters will tie themselves in knots (as Vice President J. D. Vance did last week) trying to jam the square peg of Trump’s promises into the round hole of his actions.

And many of them may avoid calling this “war” at all, even though that’s what Trump himself called it tonight. They will want to see it as a quick win against an obstinate regime that will eventually declare bygones and come to the table. But whether bombing Iran was a good idea or a bad idea—and it could turn out to be either, or both—it is war by any definition of the term, and something Trump had vowed he would avoid.

So what’s next?

Before considering the range of possibilities, it’s important to recognize how much we cannot know at this moment.

The president’s statement tonight was a farrago of contradictions: He said, for example, that the main Iranian nuclear sites were “completely and totally obliterated”—but it will take time to assess the damage, and he has no way of knowing this.

He claimed that the Iranian program has been destroyed—but added that there are still “many targets” left. He said that Iran could suffer even more in the coming days—but the White House has reportedly assured Iran through back channels that these strikes were, basically, a one-and-done, and that no further U.S. action is forthcoming.


Nobody cares what you think. What war. This is over
 

The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?​


President Donald Trump has done what he swore he would not do: involve the United States in a war in the Middle East.

His supporters will tie themselves in knots (as Vice President J. D. Vance did last week) trying to jam the square peg of Trump’s promises into the round hole of his actions.

And many of them may avoid calling this “war” at all, even though that’s what Trump himself called it tonight. They will want to see it as a quick win against an obstinate regime that will eventually declare bygones and come to the table. But whether bombing Iran was a good idea or a bad idea—and it could turn out to be either, or both—it is war by any definition of the term, and something Trump had vowed he would avoid.

So what’s next?

Before considering the range of possibilities, it’s important to recognize how much we cannot know at this moment.

The president’s statement tonight was a farrago of contradictions: He said, for example, that the main Iranian nuclear sites were “completely and totally obliterated”—but it will take time to assess the damage, and he has no way of knowing this.

He claimed that the Iranian program has been destroyed—but added that there are still “many targets” left. He said that Iran could suffer even more in the coming days—but the White House has reportedly assured Iran through back channels that these strikes were, basically, a one-and-done, and that no further U.S. action is forthcoming.


President Obama took several military actions without explicit congressional approval, sparking debate over the extent of presidential war powers.
Notable examples include:
  • Libya Intervention (2011): Obama ordered military strikes in Libya without seeking congressional approval, arguing that the involvement did not fall under the War Powers Resolution. Forces were engaged for about eight months.
  • Drone Strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia: The Obama administration significantly increased the use of drone strikes in covert counterterrorism operations in these countries. This expansion of targeted killings raised questions about legality and accountability.
  • Initial Airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq and Syria (2014): Obama cited his constitutional authority as commander-in-chief to justify initial airstrikes targeting ISIS.
Arguments and Criticisms:
  • Supporters: The administration argued that its actions, such as the Libya intervention, were limited and did not constitute "war" in the constitutional sense, thus not requiring congressional approval. They also pointed to the Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF) passed in 2001 as justification for counterterrorism actions.
  • Critics: Many critics, including members of Congress from both parties, argued that Obama's actions violated the War Powers Resolution and represented an overreach of executive authority. They believed that any use of force, particularly sustained military engagement, requires congressional authorization.
 
Check yourself, you frothing hypocrite. All you malicious magat phonies who excoriated him because he had a stroke are now loving him for speaking against Dems. You are now publicly supporting the man that you formerly called a brain dead zombie. You weirdos all disgust me. 🤮

"Arizona Democratic Senator Ruben Gallego says that Republicans are actively attempting to sway Pennsylvania Democratic Senator John Fetterman to the right, bluntly stating "of course" when asked if the GOP is trying to sway Fetterman their way.

These comments come as Fetterman faces growing criticism from fellow Democrats and questions about his health, while receiving unusual public support from Republican senators."
Ahhhhhhhhhh....dear bimbo. You were RABID in supporting a democrat who was actually going through a stroke. Could no communicate. Just because of your TDS. It did not matter if he could not function. It was that point that I truly realized how fucking rabid and fucked in the head you democrats are. It just so turns out that stroke made the man rational. Must be God's way of showing democrats how fucking stupid they are.
 
Ahhhhhhhhhh....dear bimbo. You were RABID in supporting a democrat who was actually going through a stroke. Could no communicate. Just because of your TDS. It did not matter if he could not function. It was that point that I truly realized how fucking rabid and fucked in the head you democrats are. It just so turns out that stroke made the man rational. Must be God's way of showing democrats how fucking stupid they are.
Poopeye, why don't you just go back to Pickle Park where you belong.
 
Ahhhhhhhhhh....dear bimbo. You were RABID in supporting a democrat who was actually going through a stroke. Could no communicate. Just because of your TDS. It did not matter if he could not function. It was that point that I truly realized how fucking rabid and fucked in the head you democrats are. It just so turns out that stroke made the man rational. Must be God's way of showing democrats how fucking stupid they are.
Unlike you and the other magats, I wasn't discriminating against the man because he had a medical event. I waited to see if he would recover and he did. I voted for the man's policy positions, which is the reason magats give for voting for trump. Now that Fetterman's positions are changing (for the worse, IMO) I'll be looking at another candidate when his term runs out.

Feel free to keep your stupid head firmly implanted in trump's nether regions rather than acknowledge that his mental problems are far, far worse than anything Fetterman went through.
 

The United States Bombed Iran. What Comes Next?​


President Donald Trump has done what he swore he would not do: involve the United States in a war in the Middle East.

His supporters will tie themselves in knots (as Vice President J. D. Vance did last week) trying to jam the square peg of Trump’s promises into the round hole of his actions.

And many of them may avoid calling this “war” at all, even though that’s what Trump himself called it tonight. They will want to see it as a quick win against an obstinate regime that will eventually declare bygones and come to the table. But whether bombing Iran was a good idea or a bad idea—and it could turn out to be either, or both—it is war by any definition of the term, and something Trump had vowed he would avoid.

So what’s next?

Before considering the range of possibilities, it’s important to recognize how much we cannot know at this moment.

The president’s statement tonight was a farrago of contradictions: He said, for example, that the main Iranian nuclear sites were “completely and totally obliterated”—but it will take time to assess the damage, and he has no way of knowing this.

He claimed that the Iranian program has been destroyed—but added that there are still “many targets” left. He said that Iran could suffer even more in the coming days—but the White House has reportedly assured Iran through back channels that these strikes were, basically, a one-and-done, and that no further U.S. action is forthcoming.


Well, we know it isn't an inglorious rout and disastrous withdrawal...
 
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