OK, so if people are the problem, not guns, then why do you think the problem should be able to have guns?
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OK, so if people are the problem, not guns, then why do you think the problem should be able to have guns?
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
I don't know, LV.
You just seem to fear guns the way TDAK fears automobiles, people of color, and the LBGT community.
To me, it isn't logical. As much as i hate modern commercial air travel, I know that it's pretty safe, despite the rare crash.
Well...don't you think it's worthy of some thought?
The problem with unencumbered gun ownership alongside a police state is that you have to comply with any weirdo who is waving a gun around because you're not sure if they're a mass shooter or a cop.
I want you to really understand that the tactics you're using here are the same tactics used by fascists to dismiss the dissonance that lives at the very heart of their belief system.
I have nothing to do with the dissonance of thinking a gun protects you when it really puts you at risk.
When that dissonance is called out, your instinct is to dismiss it by patronizing me.
So really think about those tactics and how they speak to your overall point, because from my perspective, they do more harm to your argument than good.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
We've brought this discussion as far as it can go.
We see life though very different eyes, and that happens.
And we can't begin to understand one another, which also happens.
Some people are destined to remain on the opposite side of an issue, and here, you find yourself opposing a progressive liberal, not a redneck cracker. as you may have expected.
So much for that, anyway.
I'd be curious as to your thoughts on my electrician thread comment about my experience rewiring my house.
Also, with which pronoun do you identify? Typing his/her gets old.
I'll admit, I don't remember the electrician thread...I typically try not to respond to things that aren't on topic.
You can just use they/them; you don't need to know my gender any more than I need to know yours.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
They / them are plural words. Only very stupid people use them in a singular context.
You may disagree, but that excludes me.
And thanks. I have a better view of you now. Henceforth, you're "it."
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When you don't know someone's gender, like if their name is Lindsey, how do you refer to them?
Only very stupid people think "them" is solely a plural word.
If someone thought that and said it to my face, I'd probably smack them.
Just like Uncensored2008, you think you're a lot fucking smarter than you actually are.
Because if someone else came at me with this kind of patronizing bullshit, I'd ridicule them right off the fucking thread.
Is that what you want?
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
"Someone" is singular and "them" is plural.
In classic English, "his" used to mean "his/her" when gender was unspecified.
This is in every traditional English grammar text book until maybe twenty-five years ago.
Suddenly, feminists decided that instead of addressing real issues of misogyny, which did indeed exist,
they should attack the English language instead.
I want to continue using "his' and 'him' as proper English dictates, but I've compromised with his/her and him/her.
I will never say they/them in a singular context because I will not condescend to the lowest common denominator.
Many people no longer respect standards in this excessively casual world, but I still do.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
You're incapable.
Them is also singular when you don't know the person's gender.
Like, for instance, if someone told me that "them" was only a plural word, I would smack the shit out of them with a dictionary.
But I don't need to bring up the dictionary because I already know what it says.
Unless you want me to do that...I have Cambridge locked and loaded, just say the word.
So obviously you have never read a Shakespeare play at all in your life.
Or Oscar Wilde.
Or Moliere.
Or any author, ever.
Not only did Shakespeare define non-gender terms, but he literally used non-gender words all the time (thee, thou, thine, etc.)
Like I said before...you're exactly like Uncensored2008...you both think you're a lot fucking smarter than you really are.
You're both kind of a couple of dumbasses trying to sound smart on the internet, to diminishing returns.
LMAO! You responded to a post that literally used the "them" pronoun to refer to a single person of unknown gender.
You need to take a step back and re-evaluate what you're doing here because you're putting your foot in your mouth the same way Uncensored did.
I guess I'm not sure what you mean by "classic English" because Shakespeare used "they/them/their" pronouns to refer to singular people all the time:
Comedy of Errors:
There's not a man I meet but doth salute me
As if I were their well-acquainted friend
Rape of Lucrece:
Now leaden slumber with life's strength doth fight;
And every one to rest themselves betake,
Save thieves, and cares, and troubled minds, that wake.
Oof, and there's this, which I'm sure you researched right? RIGHT?
The Oxford English Dictionary traces singular they back to 1375, where it appears in the medieval romance William and the Werewolf.
Not sure what you're talking about here, but I remember reading Mansfield Park by Jane Austen which had this unforgettable quote:
“I pay very little regard to what any young person says on the subject of marriage. If they profess a disinclination for it, I only set it down that they have not yet seen the right person.”
So not only is there a long literary history of "they" being used in the singular, but it's being used by some of the most famous authors in the Western World, like Shakespeare, Chaucer, Austen, etc.
Just wondering...do those authors predate your textbook from 25 years ago?
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
I don't care what the rules are NOW. They have been changed to mollify woke pantywaists like you.
In traditional English, "him," not "them," is correct. Of this, I'm certain.
I don't know if you're old enough to remember the concept of propriety.
I just know that you're afraid of your own shadow.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
You have a very exaggerated opinion of your own intellect, not to mention your own relevance on this forum.
Nobody with your obvious deficiencies should be questioning the intelligence of others on this forum.
I'll take responsibility for that. I'm far more qualified, as even the most casual observer with at least two functioning brain cells interacting would know.