His quote is about why the Bill of Rights was useless
Is James Madison a good classical liberal, or are you assholes cancelling him too?
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His quote is about why the Bill of Rights was useless
Is James Madison a good classical liberal, or are you assholes cancelling him too?
So you couldn't take it from there.
The Bill of Rights incorporates into law rights Americans largely assumed for themselves in the Colonial period but were little protected in law. The Constitution by itself did not protect them since it left the law it did not cover to the Common Law, i.e., the fluid court made law developed over centuries by English and Colonial courts, law which by definition made no lasting guarantees regarding civil liberties. At any time legislatures in the new states might enact laws suppressing the rights of speech, to bear arms, etc. This protection was the purpose of the Bill of Rights. Madison never dismissed the Bill of Rights as "dumb". He did initially favor a clause in The Constitution giving Congress veto power over state laws, a much weaker protection clearly in view of the political hackery that has replaced statesmanship in the affairs of government since Madison's time.
Madison and the Federalists had to cave to a mob of people that could not read or write for themselves.
You claim this is the greatest liberal document, but so many liberals rejected it - and history did prove them correct
The Bill of Rights were essentially fluff - it required a civil war and and the 14th and 15th amendments to actually make them relevant
moon
Satire for Sanity
Yes, that's how we've progressed.
Three more of the same. If you can't make a good argument to support a conclusion you only sound like a halfwit endlessly putting up these alleged conclusions, which is all you're doing.
either contribute or your ass is gone. I won't let you hijack a thread or waste bandwidth. No one should , when these asses come on with nothing comments wasting bandwidth just dump their asses . That is the only way you can keep a forum alive.
Dutch Uncle
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Soooo...in your world, keeping everything the same is progress? Interesting.
moon
Satire for Sanity
You clearly don't understand the point. I really don't think that you have the wit for intelligent debate.
You're more comfortable with your purple prick pump.
the bill of rights is a series of amendments, and not a stand alone document
but go on forest - talk about how it is the greatest document written.
run martin run!
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
^^^
Ms. Moon proves to JPP she can't support her own point. Sad, but expected of a Jew-hating Jihadist who hates the West, especially the United States of America.
Dear Ms. Moon; the best thing you can do for your fellow Jihadists, besides servicing them all, is to martyr yourself.
moon
Satire for Sanity
You had your chance. You're an idiot.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
What the fuck are you babbling about now, Ms. Moon?
I've been trying to help you, useless as that exercise has been, replying specifically to every post, which is an opposite of running.
That the amendment is not a stand alone document is an empty comment. It says nothing about the amendments themselves. Only they guarantee the specified rights. So you've made one more declaration that leads nowhere. But don't run, zymurgy, try to think on the off chance that is possible.
you are such a retard. they did not guarantee shit. The constitution limited the federal government and the amendments just reinforced that limitation. They did not in anyway prevent a state from stepping on your rights until incorporation
Giving up. I tried.
you succeeded in convincing me you are a barely functioning retard.
this is where it all began - you are a retard plain and simple
and what you wrote is bullshit.
moon
Satire for Sanity
You're even dummer than you think.
Haw, haw............................................haw.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Probably. Does the same apply to you or are you smarter than you think, Ms. Moon?
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The Media's Ignorant, Unstructured, and Dysfunctional Grammar Intentionally Leads to the Same Kind of Thought
You shouldn't have a fit when your ignorance is exposed; you should educate yourself on English grammar. Your teachers cheated you out of an education, so get even with them, not me.
I made it AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE,DON'T TRY TO HI JACK THE THREAD, CONTRIBUTE AS IN SAYING SOMETHING THAT ANYONE AT ALL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, YOU CAN'T DO THAT OBVIOUSLY SO YOUR ASS IS GONE. It HAS BEEN A SLICE, BUT YOU ARE OUT OF HERE. Listen PEOPLE DUMP THESE WORTHLESS NOTHING WHO WON'T CONTRIBUTE OR KNOWING THEY HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT THE SUBJECT INSIST ON HI JACKING THE THREAD TO A SUBJECT THEY THINK THEY KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT. Usually TO FIND OUT THEY HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT THAT EITHER. DUMP THEIR Asses , save the forum.