There are 120 guns for every 100 Americans

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
typical gunner lobby flunky dodge:

- YOU make a statement that is historically proven WRONG regarding origin of phraseology and labels. But rather than just acknowledge such, you suddenly want my personal opinion, as opposed to those facts.

- YOU present a visual list, yet you REFUSE to tell the reading audience which one of those items were on the original 1994 AWB list. Why?

- YOU REFUSE to deal with the FACT that the weapons of choice for the majority of mass shootings in the last 25 to 30 years were previously on the AWB list.

- YOU REFUSE to acknowledge the FACT that the NRA propaganda regarding the negative effects of the 1994 AWB was historically proven wrong.

- As far as bringing back the ban list and why, you already know the reasonings (as if current events weren't enough). But in case you forgot or don't know


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/u...apons-ban.html

Sorry but I'm still voting against Democrat gun bans because I don't trust liars.

On this particular issue, Dutch...YOU are just as big a BS artist as any right wing wonk, MAGA minion on this board. So who you vote for in this instance is of no worth, as the chronology of our exchange and your demonstrated intellectual dishonesty shows. Carry on.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

On this particular issue, Dutch...YOU are just as big a BS artist as any right wing wonk, MAGA minion on this board. So who you vote for in this instance is of no worth, as the chronology of our exchange and your demonstrated intellectual dishonesty shows. Carry on.

Call me all the names you like but all you do is prove your intolerance of anyone with a differing POV.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
On this particular issue, Dutch...YOU are just as big a BS artist as any right wing wonk, MAGA minion on this board. So who you vote for in this instance is of no worth, as the chronology of our exchange and your demonstrated intellectual dishonesty shows. Carry on.

Call me all the names you like but all you do is prove your intolerance of anyone with a differing POV.

Spare us all the usual gun lobby flunky BS, Dutch. The chronology of the post clearly shows your inability to factually and logically defend your statements and declarations on this issue. Instead, you dodge with stupid memes that distort and misrepresent the current debate.

- No legislation or proposed legislation in the last 40 years has advocated confiscation and/or banning or ALL weapon ownership by civilians.
- Comparing what this country has done/is doing to the Native people is a light year's difference from what a bunch of gun lobby flunky's are whining and hang wringing about.

Post #439 demonstrates to the reading audience that you have no case.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Spare us all the usual gun lobby flunky BS, Dutch. The chronology of the post clearly shows your inability to factually and logically defend your statements and declarations on this issue. Instead, you dodge with stupid memes that distort and misrepresent the current debate.

- No legislation or proposed legislation in the last 40 years has advocated confiscation and/or banning or ALL weapon ownership by civilians.
- Comparing what this country has done/is doing to the Native people is a light year's difference from what a bunch of gun lobby flunky's are whining and hang wringing about.

Post #439 demonstrates to the reading audience that you have no case.

It's amazing you spend so much time with me given your low opinion of my posts.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Spare us all the usual gun lobby flunky BS, Dutch. The chronology of the post clearly shows your inability to factually and logically defend your statements and declarations on this issue. Instead, you dodge with stupid memes that distort and misrepresent the current debate.

- No legislation or proposed legislation in the last 40 years has advocated confiscation and/or banning or ALL weapon ownership by civilians.
- Comparing what this country has done/is doing to the Native people is a light year's difference from what a bunch of gun lobby flunky's are whining and hang wringing about.

Post #439 demonstrates to the reading audience that you have no case.

It's amazing you spend so much time with me given your low opinion of my posts.

translation: Once again, Dutch's gun lobby flunky persona is caught flat footed unable to factually and logically defend his statements and assertions. So he does what the right wing wonks do in a similar situation (note I'm NOT saying Dutch is a right wing wonk ... he's just using their tactics here), posts silly memes that distort and misrepresent the current discussion and make declarations that belie the exchanges the chronology of the posts. Now he'll just double down on this tactic instead of just conceding/acknowledging a point of his error. Sad.

 

[Port Tack]

Both of you are fucking morons. An "assault weapon" is a fabricated Democrat legal term to condemn scary looking guns. It is not a "weapon of war". An assault rifle is a selective fire weapon, a true weapon of war.

You are full of shit, plenty of weapons of war were not fully automatic or selective fire. Just because the guns pictured fire the same round does not make them the same gun.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You are full of shit, plenty of weapons of war were not fully automatic or selective fire. Just because the guns pictured fire the same round does not make them the same gun.

But my DPMS Oracle is not a "weapon of war". The people full of shit are people like you claiming a civilian designed semi-automatic rifle is a "weapon of war". Your hype has only one purpose; to ban guns.

The gun shown is the same. Only the stock has changed. You're judging something by its appearance. You're a gun bigot.

 

[Truth Detector]

Don't talk to me as though I don't know what the fuck a gun is.

Based on your posts, you're clueless about weapons and how they are used.

If it's as fast as you can pull the trigger it's semi automatic (like your AR 15). If it's just hold the trigger down and it keeps firing it's fully automatic (or a machine gun).

Again, an assault weapon is not just a scary looking gun that looks like one. It is a military weapon with selective fire. I'm not sure if your ignorance of weapons is an act, or on purpose.

You cannot buy a fully automatic gun because they are illegal.

Yes, you can buy one. It requires a special permit. Therefore, they are not illegal, just extremely expensive and requires special permitting from the Government and restrictions state by state.

Once again, you don't know what the fuck you are bloviating about. I don't think it's an act. You really are ignorant.

Fuckwits like you know they are illegal how come you don't bitch that is unconstitutional?

Awwwww...predictable. When a low IQ, uninformed leftist gets bitch slapped by facts, they get triggered and start banging their tiny little fists on the table. Again, you're wrong, see above.
Fuckwits like you should not be shrieking that others are fuckwits just because you are ignorant of the facts.

Because it fucking isn't asshole and the supreme court has already ruled that it's not unconstitutional to limit the type of gun you can have which means congress could rule that semi-auto guns that can hold over 3 rounds are illegal and it would not be unconstitutional. The constitution says you have the right to bear arms, that does not mean you can have a fucking howitzer in your front yard.

I see that not only are you ignorant about weapons and gun laws, but also ignorant about what is contained in the Constitution.

And no, fuckwit, Congress cannot pass laws that violate the Constitution. The Supreme Court says so. Run along. It's obvious you're incapable of a coherent, intelligent or factual debate.

 

[Truth Detector]

Both of you are fucking morons. An "assault weapon" is a fabricated Democrat legal term to condemn scary looking guns. It is not a "weapon of war". An assault rifle is a selective fire weapon, a true weapon of war.

That's exactly what I said dumbass. How am I wrong about it? Aside from your serious mental issues, I see you also have difficulty with reading comprehension. Take your meds douchebag.

douchebag
noun
douche·bag | \ ˈdüsh-ˌbag \
an obnoxious, offensive, or disgusting person

 

[Truth Detector]

And remember, the weapons of CHOICE by the majority of mass shooters were the very weapons previously on the AWB list.

That is a lie. Why don't you look up the facts before you bloviate like a low IQ know-nothing blowhard. The most common weapon used in mass shootings is a handgun. 99.7% of firearm homicides are not mass shootings.

Weapon types used in mass shootings in the United States between 1982 and June 2022, by number of weapons and incidents

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/gun-facts-and-fiction/mass-shootings/

 

[Truth Detector]

On this particular issue, Dutch...YOU are just as big a BS artist as any right wing wonk, MAGA minion on this board. So who you vote for in this instance is of no worth, as the chronology of our exchange and your demonstrated intellectual dishonesty shows. Carry on.

This statement is rather ironic coming from a leftist who does nothing but spout BS and lies. Seriously, how does anyone as dumb as you think you're smart?

 

[Truth Detector]

You are full of shit, plenty of weapons of war were not fully automatic or selective fire.

There you go moving that darn goalpost and flailing again. We weren't talking about weapons of war, it was the definition of the term "assault weapon."

Just because the guns pictured fire the same round does not make them the same gun.

Another paimfully stupid statement made in ignorance. ALL the guns pictured fire the same round. ALL are semi-automatic. ALL are made by the same manufacturer in different configurations.

Try to be less stupid.

 

[Lionfish]

 

[Port Tack]

What a fucking stupid mime. just what the fuck has that to do with mass shooters

 

[Port Tack]

That is a lie. Why don't you look up the facts before you bloviate like a low IQ know-nothing blowhard. The most common weapon used in mass shootings is a handgun. 99.7% of firearm homicides are not mass shootings.

Weapon types used in mass shootings in the United States between 1982 and June 2022, by number of weapons and incidents

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/gun-facts-and-fiction/mass-shootings/

If you trying to make an argument against all guns then you are doing a good job.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

If you trying to make an argument against all guns then you are doing a good job.

Thanks for announcing the Democratic agenda to ban all guns. Still, the point is that the majority of "gun violence" is one shot from a pistol and the majority of homicides are with handguns. Yet the Democrats want to ban scary-looking guns and high capacity magazines.

That's irrational....unless one considers that the Democrats want to ban all guns and they are starting with the low-hanging fruit first. Once they ban those, they'll chip away at the rest over the next decade. You know, just like Republicans do with abortion.

 

[Port Tack]

Thanks for announcing the Democratic agenda to ban all guns. Still, the point is that the majority of "gun violence" is one shot from a pistol and the majority of homicides are with handguns. Yet the Democrats want to ban scary-looking guns and high capacity magazines.

That's irrational....unless one considers that the Democrats want to ban all guns and they are starting with the low-hanging fruit first. Once they ban those, they'll chip away at the rest over the next decade. You know, just like Republicans do with abortion.

Huh? That is ridiculous. The asshole posts about how many are killed with guns and I'm announcing that the democratic agenda is to ban guns? How the fuck draw that conclusion is beyond a logical mind. Democrats are not out to ban all guns. They could have a supermajority in congress and such a bill would not stand a chance.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Huh? That is ridiculous. The asshole posts about how many are killed with guns and I'm announcing that the democratic agenda is to ban guns? How the fuck draw that conclusion is beyond a logical mind. Democrats are not out to ban all guns. They could have a supermajority in congress and such a bill would not stand a chance.

That's the plan.

 

[Truth Detector]

If you trying to make an argument against all guns then you are doing a good job.

Obviously you're not merely uneducated and dumb, but severely lack in reading comprehension. We're done here. You're not serious.

 

[Truth Detector]

Democrats are not out to ban all guns.

That is a lie. That is the goal. They just need to find a stealthy way to get there. Perhaps by allowing gun manufacturers to be sued. Or perhaps by banning ammunition sales?

There are many ways the fools in the Democratic Party of Lying Jackasses can do it. You're a simple minded, myopic partisan hack that pretends it isn't their goal.

Assuming that they could remove ALL gun from American households. illegal guns would still be available to criminal elements and now, with an unarmed populace, their task becomes much safer and easier.

Democrats are the dumbest fools on the planet. They hate America, they hate you and they hate minorities which is why their policies are so devastating to the urban shit holes they control.