ther new job numbers are here

Dungheap said:
I've answered this unpteen times. I'm more worried about the very real problems that we have right now than I am about potential problems that may exist in the future if we do the right thing now to deal with those very real problems that we have.

Also, too, would you rather borrow today at a negative real rate or in 5 years at a higher rate?
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unless of course, the thing we are doing now isn't the right thing but the wrong thing.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
four years of trying and Obama has an employment picture almost as good as what we had AFTER the "Bush" recession of 08......
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What in the world are you talking about?

The situation in '08 and '09 was dire, and the recession lasted throughout that period of time. I really have no idea what you mean by the above.
 
Thing1 said:
What in the world are you talking about?

The situation in '08 and '09 was dire, and the recession lasted throughout that period of time. I really have no idea what you mean by the above.
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well, hopefully you will pay more attention to the next four years than you did to the last four.....
 
Chapel The Evergreen said:
I wonder what the majority of those jobs entail. I know there's a serious skills shortage here still, and that likely to continue for...well years.
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In April, professional services added 73,000 workers; bars and restaurants hired 38,000 people; and the retail business generated 29,000 jobs.

The sluggish pace of hiring since the end of the Great Recession in mid-2009 is a big reason why the U.S. is expanding at a rate well below the norm at this stage of a recovery. The unemployment rate is an even larger 13.9%, up from 13.8% in March, if everyone who wants a full-time job but can’t find one is included.
What’s worse, some 4.4 million people have been unable to find a job in the past six months, a number that’s still quite high by historically standards. The longer those people stay out of work the more their skills erode, making them less attractive to employers.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-economy-creates-165000-jobs-in-april-2013-05-03?pagenumber=2
 
PostmodernProphet said:
well, hopefully you will pay more attention to the next four years than you did to the last four.....
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Your zingers are trite & lame. I paid plenty of attention to the last 4 years - obviously more than you, if you think there was any time after '08 that was "better" than it is now, or if you think the "Bush recession" was over in '08.

Clue up.
 
Thing1 said:
Your zingers are trite & lame. I paid plenty of attention to the last 4 years - obviously more than you, if you think there was any time after '08 that was "better" than it is now, or if you think the "Bush recession" was over in '08.

Clue up.
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???....just the opposite....I am pointing out that the Obama recovery has never been as good as we had it in 08....if I recall correctly the government announced the recession ended officially in June, 2009, though many economists argue it happened even before Obama was elected.......
 
Superfreak said:
In April, professional services added 73,000 workers; bars and restaurants hired 38,000 people; and the retail business generated 29,000 jobs.

The sluggish pace of hiring since the end of the Great Recession in mid-2009 is a big reason why the U.S. is expanding at a rate well below the norm at this stage of a recovery. The unemployment rate is an even larger 13.9%, up from 13.8% in March, if everyone who wants a full-time job but can’t find one is included.
What’s worse, some 4.4 million people have been unable to find a job in the past six months, a number that’s still quite high by historically standards. The longer those people stay out of work the more their skills erode, making them less attractive to employers.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-economy-creates-165000-jobs-in-april-2013-05-03?pagenumber=2
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I read about a group who is trying to promote steady,sustainable growth, they claim with the international markets that this would be a better system then the current system of fluctuations. Economics isn't my "thing", but this sounded good to me.
 
Damocles said:
They are disappointing and almost 50,000 below expectations. Can you tell me how many abandoned the search, or can you be that honest?
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They are going in the right direction, right? That's all that matters, right?

Cuz, I remember well when they were going down, you said that all that mattered was the direction? Remember, they were going down less and less each month and you said that was meaningless....
 
Damocles said:
They are disappointing and almost 50,000 below expectations. Can you tell me how many abandoned the search, or can you be that honest?
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It does not appear the job numbers were below the expectations of the Stock Market...
 
Damocles said:
They are disappointing and almost 50,000 below expectations. Can you tell me how many abandoned the search, or can you be that honest?
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Yeah. And that pesky DOW went over 15,000. Damn you Obama for ruining our economy!

Dungheap said:
LOL. You need a hobby or something.
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Perhaps he should start hoarding guns.

Jarod said:
They are going in the right direction, right? That's all that matters, right?

Cuz, I remember well when they were going down, you said that all that mattered was the direction? Remember, they were going down less and less each month and you said that was meaningless....
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No, you're wrong. There's a substantial number of people in this country who want it to fail. They want us to go under in a fiery blast of guns, guns, guns! and insurrection. Look at ILA, Bravo, and a couple of others. All they post is negativity...because they want that black man to fail. They want us to learn our lesson. They want to put us in our place.
 
Howey said:
Yeah. And that pesky DOW went over 15,000. Damn you Obama for ruining our economy!



Perhaps he should start hoarding guns.



No, you're wrong. There's a substantial number of people in this country who want it to fail. They want us to go under in a fiery blast of guns, guns, guns! and insurrection. Look at ILA, Bravo, and a couple of others. All they post is negativity...because they want that black man to fail. They want us to learn our lesson. They want to put us in our place.
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Dixie was excitedly talking about the day he was going to put a bullet in my head as soon as things got so bad the revolution would start. ....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
???....just the opposite....I am pointing out that the Obama recovery has never been as good as we had it in 08....if I recall correctly the government announced the recession ended officially in June, 2009, though many economists argue it happened even before Obama was elected.......
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Cite for the bold? One will do.
 
Rana said:
I read about a group who is trying to promote steady,sustainable growth, they claim with the international markets that this would be a better system then the current system of fluctuations. Economics isn't my "thing", but this sounded good to me.
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That is the utopian ideal if you will. It would be great if we could achieve it. The problem lies in how do we do so? This is where you will get the varying economic theories battling out for who is 'right'.

I think both Keynesian and Supply Side theories will work if implemented properly. The problem is neither ever are. Which in turn leads us to bubble economies. We are building yet another one right now... that too will blow up in our faces in time.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
???....just the opposite....I am pointing out that the Obama recovery has never been as good as we had it in 08....if I recall correctly the government announced the recession ended officially in June, 2009, though many economists argue it happened even before Obama was elected.......
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Say what? I doubt you can find even one that said such nonsense...
 
PostmodernProphet said:
???....just the opposite....I am pointing out that the Obama recovery has never been as good as we had it in 08....if I recall correctly the government announced the recession ended officially in June, 2009, though many economists argue it happened even before Obama was elected.......[/QUOTE]

That's the best.
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Superfreak said:
That is the utopian ideal if you will. It would be great if we could achieve it. The problem lies in how do we do so? This is where you will get the varying economic theories battling out for who is 'right'.

I think both Keynesian and Supply Side theories will work if implemented properly. The problem is neither ever are. Which in turn leads us to bubble economies. We are building yet another one right now... that too will blow up in our faces in time.
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I plan on reading some of their material to find out.
 
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