The very appropriate parallel to Germany in the '30s

McRocket said:
Says the man who typed above:

'I just remembered - you're the same guy who said Putin wouldn't invade the Ukraine, literally a day before he did.'

And now?
He can not even show where this hypothetical statement I made is?

So...where is this hypothetical statement, BartenderElite?
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Again: seriously?
 
BartenderElite said:
You said the idea that he would invade was total political BS from Biden.

Did you miss that?
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Those were not my words.

You typed:
'I just remembered - you're the same guy who said Putin wouldn't invade the Ukraine, literally a day before he did.'

Where did I type: 'Putin wouldn't invade Ukraine' - the day before Russia invaded?

You said it toots.
Now back it up.
 
McRocket said:
What the fuck are you talking about?

1) EVERY politician, probably wants to be a dictator.
Prove I am wrong?

2) Trump is NOT POTUS.
He has little power now.
Biden is POTUS.
You are freaking about a situation that does NOT exist.

3) Trump is a man child.
But he is NOT Hitler.
He is not anti-Semitic....in the least (like Hitler was).
He has not written a book about needing more 'living space' for Americans (like Hitler did).
His tone is NOTHING AT ALL like Hitler's.
Trump's term in office was absolutely NOTHING like Hitler's first four years in power.
NOTHING.

Comparing Nazi Germany under Hitler to America in 2022 is beyond silliness.
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Reminder: this was your starting point. Thinking I was making a literal comparison between Trump & Hitler.
 
BartenderElite said:
If we don't learn from the past, we're doomed to repeat it.

No one took Hitler or the Nazis seriously in the early '30s in Germany. No one believed democracy was in danger. No one believed a dictatorship was possible, or that the atrocities that followed were even within the realm of imagination.

We think the Constitution protects us. But we came one VP away from ignoring the Constitution in 2020. And if Trump had taken power, who knows what would have happened?

There is no mistake about it: Trump WANTS to be a dictator. He's also trying to ensure that enough key operatives are in place in swing states to overturn the next election, if that's needed. This is all happening in broad daylight.

You can "TDS" and "Godwin's Law" this stuff as much as you want. But it's a real danger, and we need to start paying attention.
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Amen. Just as the majority of Germans allegedly had no idea about the camps and the deaths, so to are far too many Americans so immersed in their own lives and entertainment that they may not be paying very close attention.
 
BartenderElite said:
You called the idea of it bullshit.

I didn't realize this was the JPP meeting of "Hairsplitter's anonymous."

You're somethin'. It's hard to debate w/ someone who lies quite a bit, and denies things that they said.
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Says the gal who puts words in other peoples mouths.
Like you just did earlier.
And refuses to admit it or prove it.

I believe that is called 'libel'.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/libel

Gee...I guess you DO make major mistakes after all.
 
BartenderElite said:
Reminder: this was your starting point. Thinking I was making a literal comparison between Trump & Hitler.
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Wrong.
I was thinking you were making a comparison between 1930's Germany and America today.


Says the gal who puts words in other peoples mouths.
Like you just did earlier.
And refuses to admit it, prove it or retract it.

I believe that is called 'libel'.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/libel

Gee...I guess you DO make major mistakes after all.
 
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McRocket said:
Wrong.
I was thinking you were making a comparison between 1930's Germany and America today.


Says the gal who puts words in other peoples mouths.
Like you just did earlier.
And refuses to admit it, prove it or retract it.

I believe that is called 'libel'.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/libel

Gee...I guess you DO make major mistakes after all.
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Apologies. I'm not able to find the exact exchange I was thinking of. I thought I recalled an exchange we had on the eve of the invasion, but since I can't find it, concede the point and take you at your word on how you felt about it.
 
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T. A. Gardner said:
Yea, like a three-hour riot really changed anything...
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Where do you get "three-hour riot", Chief?...or did you retire as a PO1 and that's why you're so bitter?

If I had my choice, I would have retired at the best rank ever, a Captain of Marines....but life got in the way. Shit happens. I got used to it. Did you, Chief?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Where do you get "three-hour riot", Chief?...or did you retire as a PO1 and that's why you're so bitter?

If I had my choice, I would have retired at the best rank ever, a Captain of Marines....but life got in the way. Shit happens. I got used to it. Did you, Chief?
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Three-hour riot. I made Chief back when it was still an ordeal to go through the initiation. Now, it's a joke. I was always a 'hard hat' chief that wore the combination cap too. I got my first anchors from a Chief that made it on the USS Indianapolis and passed those on to another Chief later on. There's no "bitter(ness)" involved. There's the hard-core Rickover ground it in reality and do it right philosophy that grates on anyone who isn't in that mindset (eg., you).

A good engineering Chief is much like what you perceive a Captain in the Marines is. You are revered as a near god. There's a problem with something, you solve it and the officers cum themselves that they have somebody on board that can make it happen. The ship gets underway on time, stays on station, and finishes the mission. That takes good engineers.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Amen. Just as the majority of Germans allegedly had no idea about the camps and the deaths, so to are far too many Americans so immersed in their own lives and entertainment that they may not be paying very close attention.
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Yep. I've been pointing to Israeli fascism for years. The needle is moving though because so are hundreds of thousands of others.
Trump's attempts to override international law have woken up hundreds of thousands more.
 
moon said:
Yep. I've been pointing to Israeli fascism for years. The needle is moving though because so are hundreds of thousands of others.
Trump's attempts to override international law have woken up hundreds of thousands more.
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As if you know anything.

Or would tell the truth if you did.
 
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