The Town Hall Mob

Darla said:
No one is suggesting we don't deal with healthcare costs, and I have no idea where you are getting that from. We must deal with them. That's known.
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Also... show me where anyone is protesting because they don't want people without health insurance to get health insurance. That was your assertion. Also, people ARE protesting the fact that this plan raises the debt and does not reduce costs. At least according to polls that is the main reason. It is the idiots like Krugman who proclaim they are racists and mobs just out to get the black President. That is who is out of touch with reality.
 
Onceler said:
I have criticized the lack of civil discourse, intimidation & death threats.

Can you show me where I "attacked" people for "exercising free speech?"

IQ's on the right suck.
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Can you show me a example of you posting a similar article, that addressed the liberals doing this, during President Bush's campaign(s)?
 
Socrtease said:
Med mal reform, more affordable if not free medical schools. Germany and France have much lower costs than we do, I know you righties hate to look to anyone else for answers, but we have shown for the last 30 years we don't have them. Insurance companies only want to make a profit for their share holders. They find every reason in the world to not cover expensive life saving procedures by calling them untested, experimental etc. Cost really are the problem. The other place people should look is at Mayo. ALL their docs are on salary, they get raises yearly but because they are on salary they are not pushing unnecessary tests to push the bottom line up. Mayo does it pretty damn good.
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The last I heard, even Mayo doesn't like most of the Obama plan. You might suggest to Obama that he read the bill. It might help.
 
Superfreak said:
Abortion DOES kill babies. Genetics dictates that. Other than that, I agree with the above.
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No it kills a human life, but not a BABY. Most abortions do not take place when the fetus is at baby stage, so NO it does not kill a baby only genetic human life.
 
TuTu Monroe said:
The last I heard, even Mayo doesn't like most of the Obama plan. You might suggest to Obama that he read the bill. It might help.
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You are right Mayo doesn't agree with it. All these groups need to be a great big round table and EVERYONE needs to listen. I would invite the minister of health of other countries to but lots of righties would bitch that no one else has good ideas. This from the people that coined the term freedom fries.
 
Socrtease said:
No it kills a human life, but not a BABY. Most abortions do not take place when the fetus is at baby stage, so NO it does not kill a baby only genetic human life.
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I am just shocked that would really believe this..very sad..
I would of never guessed..
 
meme said:
I am just shocked that would really believe this..very sad..
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a fetus in the first trimester is not according to hoyle a baby. I have two children, I know what a baby is, our first ultra sounds were not of babies but of fetuses. Somewhere along the line they become babies before they are born, but most abortions do not occur at that point.
 
Socrtease said:
No it kills a human life, but not a BABY. Most abortions do not take place when the fetus is at baby stage, so NO it does not kill a baby only genetic human life.
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At least you have finally admitted that there are abortions when the fetus is at the baby stage.
 
Socrtease said:
Med mal reform, more affordable if not free medical schools. Germany and France have much lower costs than we do, I know you righties hate to look to anyone else for answers, but we have shown for the last 30 years we don't have them. Insurance companies only want to make a profit for their share holders. They find every reason in the world to not cover expensive life saving procedures by calling them untested, experimental etc. Cost really are the problem. The other place people should look is at Mayo. ALL their docs are on salary, they get raises yearly but because they are on salary they are not pushing unnecessary tests to push the bottom line up. Mayo does it pretty damn good.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/08/07/health_care_reform_a_better_plan_97804.html

Keep in mind, many of those unnecessary tests are not a result of trying to push up the bottom line, but more so due to CYA by doctors/hospitals against malpractice.

That said, since you are a lawyer, I would be interested in hearing your take on the proposal for tort reform mentioned in the above article. Thanks.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I seem to remember that during President Bush's term(s); that when same thing was offered, that the anti-right always pulled out the "that's because so many don't qualify for unemployment and therefore aren't counted".

Aren't you going to play the same card now and if not, why??
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Remember how Belme always used to say that when Bush was President? Too funny.
 
Onceler said:
I have criticized the lack of civil discourse, intimidation & death threats.

Can you show me where I "attacked" people for "exercising free speech?"

IQ's on the right suck.
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easy....

calling people pathetic or crazy for posting video's of obama saying he wants to eliminate private insurance
 
Superfreak said:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/08/07/health_care_reform_a_better_plan_97804.html

Keep in mind, many of those unnecessary tests are not a result of trying to push up the bottom line, but more so due to CYA by doctors/hospitals against malpractice.

That said, since you are a lawyer, I would be interested in hearing your take on the proposal for tort reform mentioned in the above article. Thanks.
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I agree with Krauthammer for the most part (wow, will wonders never cease.) I have some problems with completely eliminating the malpractice system for the most egregious cases. There was a guy in Texas in his early 30's who had his testicles and penis removed and when the necropsy was done there was not a single cancer cell. Some one screwed up big. What is that worth, how do you put a value on that? I think only a juror can. But for the most part I agree. accidents happen, you should be compensated for actual damages and honest mistakes should not become a lottery for you or your money grubbing med mal attorney.
 
Socrtease said:
a fetus in the first trimester is not according to hoyle a baby. I have two children, I know what a baby is, our first ultra sounds were not of babies but of fetuses. Somewhere along the line they become babies before they are born, but most abortions do not occur at that point.
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tell you what....I promise not to spend three pages telling you you're wrong if you don't try to tell us that your beliefs are anything more than your beliefs....
 
Superfreak said:
Also... show me where anyone is protesting because they don't want people without health insurance to get health insurance. That was your assertion. Also, people ARE protesting the fact that this plan raises the debt and does not reduce costs. At least according to polls that is the main reason. It is the idiots like Krugman who proclaim they are racists and mobs just out to get the black President. That is who is out of touch with reality.
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They, the older protesters, now understand that Medicare is under siege with another 35 billion being cut. That they will be counseled for options such as euthanasia etc. I mean hell stupid old geezers need to just shut up...right?
 
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