The Theological Roots of Akin’s “Legitimate Rape” Comment

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An informed and well written piece...located here... http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/sarahposner/6298/the_theological_roots_of_akin

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Akin is proud of how his religion, and in particular, the Presbyterian Church in America, the deeply conservative Calvinist denomination founded in 1973, influences his political views. Akin has a Masters in Divinity from the denomination’s flagship Covenant Theological Seminary. His campaign website notes, “Although most of his classmates went on to become pastors or missionaries, Todd took a different path. For several years he studied the founding of America and the principles which made this country great. His love of country and conviction that leaders must stand on principle led him to run for State Representative in 1988.” On abortion, the PCA is absolutist: opposing abortion in all cases, with no exceptions.


Akin’s comments reveal a religious culture fundamentally opposed to women’s equality. On the rape exception question in particular, he’s not forging new ground, but rather echoing tropes long in circulation. As Garance Franke-Ruta details at The Atlantic, deploying the bogus claim that a woman cannot get pregnant as a result of rape has long been a tactic of anti-choice activists to remove rape exceptions to laws outlawing abortion. And as Mother Jones’ Nick Baumann reports, last year Akin “and most of the House GOP co-sponsored a bill that would have narrowed the already-narrow exceptions to the laws banning federal funding for abortion—from all cases of rape to cases of ‘forcible rape.’”

A 2001 PCA report on the prospect of women serving in combat positions in the military, titled “Man’s Duty to Protect Woman,” states, “woman is the weaker sex and part of her weakness is the vulnerability attendant to her greatest privilege—that God has made her the ‘Mother of all the living.’ Men are to guard and protect her as she carries in her womb, gives birth to, and nurses her children.”

Yes, that was written in 2001, not 1001.
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He's a Calvinist...that explains a lot of his insanity.

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August 20, 2012 7:53am The Theological Roots of Akin’s “Legitimate Rape” Comment Post by SARAH POSNER



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Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO), his party’s candidate in the Missouri Senate race to unseat Democrat Claire McCaskill, has quickly attempted to retract his comment that in cases of “legitimate rape," women have biological defenses against pregnancy. “I misspoke,” he claimed in a carefully crafted statement. After all, cleaning up the mess after the candidate not misspoke, but spoke his mind on television, is what campaigns do to pretend that the candidate is not a loon.

The strategy is not unlike the one used after the controversy Akin ignited last year when he attacked NBC for omitting “under God” from the pledge of allegiance in a broadcast. Accusing the network of being liberal, Akin told Tony Perkins on Family Research Council’s radio program, “at the heart of liberalism really is a hatred for God and a belief that government should replace God. And so they’ve had a long history of not being at all favorable toward many of things that have been such a blessing to our country.” Akin later tried to claim, “My statement during my radio interview was directed at the political movement, Liberalism not at any specific individual. If my statement gave a different impression, I offer my apologies.”

Akin is proud of how his religion, and in particular, the Presbyterian Church in America, the deeply conservative Calvinist denomination founded in 1973, influences his political views. Akin has a Masters in Divinity from the denomination’s flagship Covenant Theological Seminary. His campaign website notes, “Although most of his classmates went on to become pastors or missionaries, Todd took a different path. For several years he studied the founding of America and the principles which made this country great. His love of country and conviction that leaders must stand on principle led him to run for State Representative in 1988.” On abortion, the PCA is absolutist: opposing abortion in all cases, with no exceptions.


Akin’s comments reveal a religious culture fundamentally opposed to women’s equality. On the rape exception question in particular, he’s not forging new ground, but rather echoing tropes long in circulation. As Garance Franke-Ruta details at The Atlantic, deploying the bogus claim that a woman cannot get pregnant as a result of rape has long been a tactic of anti-choice activists to remove rape exceptions to laws outlawing abortion. And as Mother Jones’ Nick Baumann reports, last year Akin “and most of the House GOP co-sponsored a bill that would have narrowed the already-narrow exceptions to the laws banning federal funding for abortion—from all cases of rape to cases of ‘forcible rape.’”

A 2001 PCA report on the prospect of women serving in combat positions in the military, titled “Man’s Duty to Protect Woman,” states, “woman is the weaker sex and part of her weakness is the vulnerability attendant to her greatest privilege—that God has made her the ‘Mother of all the living.’ Men are to guard and protect her as she carries in her womb, gives birth to, and nurses her children.”

Yes, that was written in 2001, not 1001.

In its lengthy position papers on abortion, the PCA has made clear that what it claims are biblical prohibitions on abortion should take precedence over any other law, because of its views on the separation of church and state:

The civil magistrate [a government official] is responsible to God. He is to discharge his duty according to God’s will. The Bible is the supreme revelation of God’s will. Because church and state are neither subordinate to the other but to God, the civil magistrate is under obligation to recognize the Bible as authoritative in the exercise of civil magistracy. The Lordship of Christ in all areas of life is fundamental.
In other words, the PCA view is that its own view of the Bible should dictate laws on abortion (and other matters). On abortion, the PCA rejects what it calls “situation ethics” for exceptions to prohibitions on abortion, including “population control, economic hardships, unwanted children, psychological or physical health of the mother, rape or incest, deformed children, and protection for the mother’s life.” As early as 1978, the PCA was discussing the “personhood” of a fertilized egg, arguing, “conception, then, is not a mere human happening. Apart from the sovereign intervention of God, conception (which Scripture designates a divine blessing) does not take place.” It has concluded that “God in His Word speaks of the unborn child as a person and treats him as such, and so must we. The Bible teaches the sanctity of life, and so must we. The Bible, especially in the Sixth Commandment, gives concrete protection to that life which bears the image of God. We must uphold that commandment.”

There are many links to references supporting the article.

This is a religious argument, more of the same old culture war being pushed by Tbaggers across the country. Religious zealotry we don't need or want in this country.
 
It's a religious argument to curtail womens right to healthcare period. It has no place in the discussion as her privacy is assured under law. This has been a sustained attack on a womans right to a safe abortion from the beginning. Religious argument belongs in church not congress. Sounds as though you agree with the arguments put forward.
 
It's a religious argument to curtail womens right to healthcare period. It has no place in the discussion as her privacy is assured under law. This has been a sustained attack on a womans right to a safe abortion from the beginning. Religious argument belongs in church not congress.

really?....a woman can't have healthcare if she can't kill her children?.......is that your religious belief, because it certainly isn't fact.....
 
I do not recognize killing an unborn child to be a healthcare issue of anyone except the unborn child.....agreed.....a woman can certainly receive all the healthcare she requires without permitting her to kill her child.......I will grant you the exception of protecting the life of the mother.....
 
I do not recognize killing an unborn child to be a healthcare issue of anyone except the unborn child.....agreed.....a woman can certainly receive all the healthcare she requires without permitting her to kill her child.......I will grant you the exception of protecting the life of the mother.....

what a surprise...

ANOTHER Rightie who thinks all women should live their lives according to his narrow minded view.
 
An informed and well written piece...located here... http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/sarahposner/6298/the_theological_roots_of_akin



He's a Calvinist...that explains a lot of his insanity.



There are many links to references supporting the article.

This is a religious argument, more of the same old culture war being pushed by Tbaggers across the country. Religious zealotry we don't need or want in this country.

I crack up when they claim the Biblical position on the sanctity of life. The Bible is full of murderous acts, including the myth of the blood ransom, sanctioned by Yahweh of his only son, of the third person in his trinity. A truly loving God would have found a less barbarous way to save humankind, in my opinion!
 
then you support the legalization of murder....right? or are you telling others how to live based on your world views?


Yeah, that's right Yurt, I support the legalization of murder...LMAO!


And you wonder why we can never have an honest debate...


As I've said numerous times, it's the woman's CHOICE and it's no business of anyone else what her choice is.
 
Yeah, that's right Yurt, I support the legalization of murder...LMAO!


And you wonder why we can never have an honest debate...


As I've said numerous times, it's the woman's CHOICE and it's no business of anyone else what her choice is.

did i say you support the legalization of murder? is this your idea of honest debate? accuse of me something i never did?

why do just women have a choice? what about anyone else? why shouldn't be murder be legal, after all you complained that those against abortion are telling others how to live their lives. yet, if you do not supporting murder, are you not in fact telling others how to live their lives based on your beliefs?
 
did i say you support the legalization of murder? is this your idea of honest debate? accuse of me something i never did?

why do just women have a choice? what about anyone else? why shouldn't be murder be legal, after all you complained that those against abortion are telling others how to live their lives. yet, if you do not supporting murder, are you not in fact telling others how to live their lives based on your beliefs?


You accused me of supporting it...yes!


then you support the legalization of murder....right?


Once again Yurt plays his bullshit word parsing games...typical.


Sorry Yurt, I will not be drawn into anther idiotic game of hair-splitting, grammatical semantics with you...we are discussing abortion and a women's right to decide what takes place within her own body. Your petty "you support murder" nonsense is just another diversionary tactic.
 
You accused me of supporting it...yes!





Once again Yurt plays his bullshit word parsing games...typical.


Sorry Yurt, I will not be drawn into anther idiotic game of hair-splitting, grammatical semantics with you...we are discussing abortion and a women's right to decide what takes place within her own body. Your petty "you support murder" nonsense is just another diversionary tactic.

you're so dishonest you can't even admit i ASKED you a question and did not make an accusation. i made it perfectly clear with the word right and the question mark. seriously, you're pathetic. and my second sentence, which you dishonestly left out, also clearly shows i was asking a question.

notice how zappa has now completely ignored the actual discussion and resorted to his typical insults and lies. what a two faced punk.
 
Romney and the Creepy Doctor Who Believes Women Don’t Get Pregnant From Rape???

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After saying he “can’t defend” Rep. Todd Akin’s suggestion that women don’t get pregnant from rape, Mitt Romney stepped up his rebuke on Tuesday when he called on Akin to drop out of the Missouri Senate race. But archives from Romney’s previous presidential bid show that the Massachusetts Republican has historically supported the person who is the source of Akin’s theory, Dr. Jack C. Willke, the father of the antiabortion movement.

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After saying he “can’t defend” Rep. Todd Akin’s suggestion that women don’t get pregnant from rape, Mitt Romney stepped up his rebuke on Tuesday when he called on Akin to drop out of the Missouri Senate race. But archives from Romney’s previous presidential bid show that the Massachusetts Republican has historically supported the person who is the source of Akin’s theory, Dr. Jack C. Willke, the father of the antiabortion movement.

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That about covers the conservative attitude toward women...
 
Akin is an idiot. He's even been requested not to appear at the Convention because everybody thinks he's an idiot. Even his excuse that he wanted to use "forcible" still makes him an idiot.
 
Akin is an idiot. He's even been requested not to appear at the Convention because everybody thinks he's an idiot. Even his excuse that he wanted to use "forcible" still makes him an idiot.

Many on the right don't seem to think he's an idiot, Damocles.

Some conservatives here at JPP support what he said, apparently.
 
I have to admit that there are some on the right that support women having choice but they either won't speak out due to pressure from the radical right or they have left the party.

That's one for your side. How do you think this will go if no one stands up and says NO to the crazies?
 
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