The Tea Party Did the Right Thing

Mott the Hoople said:
I don't think it's to late. I mean it's obvious from some of the things done and said that there is a racist element in the Tea Party but the Tea Party legitimizes it self by showing, as in this case, that they will not tolerate it from their leadership.
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Ever since they had Roy Moore as a featured speaker at one of their events, their cred has been pretty low with me.

Roy Moore is NOT about freedom.
 
Onceler said:
Debate substance? Like you did with Cypress on global warming earlier?

Really?

Again, it's not the use of "hypocrite" or "hypocrisy" on its own. It's really the massive repetition of it that sets you apart.
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LMAO.... cypress does NOT debate substance. He refuses to look at anything that might contradict his religion. He even ignores his own unimpeachable sources when THEY contradict him. All Cypress does is parrot the fear mongering chants.
 
Jarod said:
1) Who says they do?

2) They were started by a group of Republican stragitigists. I read all about it and will look for a link.
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The way they speak of it makes it clear. "Good for the TEA Party..."

I'm sure there's some other group out there who hasn't done anything of the sort.

Biden is smart enough to say, "They're not a racist group"... However, calling at least 50 separate TEA Party organizations associated only by name a "group" is a bit much. This is the essence of grass roots, there are 4 separate groups in CO alone that I can name, along with ones for cities, counties, etc. There may be as many as 50 separate TEA Party organizations in CO alone, let alone across the US, each with a separate organizer... Pretty much anybody with a website and time can create a "TEA Party" site and start organizing whatever they want to...
 
WinterBorn said:
Ever since they had Roy Moore as a featured speaker at one of their events, their cred has been pretty low with me.

Roy Moore is NOT about freedom.
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Who are "they"? One of the groups had this guy speak and now all of them are "tainted" according to Winterborn? Then you got others who claim to understand that there is no central "party" to speak of, no "TEA Party" leader, no "central committees" for this movement, yet still say, "This is what convinced me that they were bad too!"
 
Yurt said:
uh huh....and yet you can't prove me wrong

all you and nigel can do is whine like petulant children...."its not fair mommy"...he uses hypocrisy more than i do....

all you have to do is show i'm wrong, but you can't, it really makes you and nigel look like a bunch of sour losers who when hypocrisy is called out, either yours or the left, instead of addressing the actual charge of hypocrisy, all you can do is whine about yurt's usuage of it

you both are pathetically nothing more than whiny babys
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What are you "right" about? That the left only talks about racism on the right, and not on the left?

Do you mean like....how you only post about "hypocrisy" on the left (i.e. union picketers), and for the right, not so much?

Like that?

And I'm not really "whining" about your usage of hypocrisy. Just pointing out its insane frequency.
 
Damocles said:
The way they speak of it makes it clear. "Good for the TEA Party..."

I'm sure there's some other group out there who hasn't done anything of the sort.

Biden is smart enough to say, "They're not a racist group"... However, calling at least 50 separate TEA Party organizations associated only by name a "group" is a bit much. This is the essence of grass roots, there are 4 separate groups in CO alone that I can name, along with ones for cities, counties, etc. There may be as many as 50 separate TEA Party organizations in CO alone, let alone across the US, each with a separate organizer... Pretty much anybody with a website and time can create a "TEA Party" site and start organizing whatever they want to...
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Noone ever claimed they were a racist group....!

There are at least 50 Republican orginizations also, and Democratic orginizations.
 
Onceler said:
What are you "right" about? That the left only talks about racism on the right, and not on the left?

Do you mean like....how you only post about "hypocrisy" on the left (i.e. union picketers), and for the right, not so much?

Like that?

And I'm not really "whining" about your usage of hypocrisy. Just pointing out its insane frequency.
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still can't show i'm wrong so out come the typical onceler lies

yawn
 
There are at least 50 Republicans orginizations.
There are at least 50 Democratic orginizations.
There are at least 50 Green orginizations.
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO.... cypress does NOT debate substance. He refuses to look at anything that might contradict his religion. He even ignores his own unimpeachable sources when THEY contradict him. All Cypress does is parrot the fear mongering chants.
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Ehhh, you're just saying that cause on the Climate Science debate he's beat you like a red headed step child.
 
Jarod said:
There are at least 50 Republicans orginizations.
There are at least 50 Democratic orginizations.
There are at least 50 Green orginizations.
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The main difference, all of these associate to a central authority. Believe me, if you try to set up say a "young republicans" group somewhere and do it without following the central committee's rules and processes you will have problems with lawsuits.

Calling it "the" TEA Party without adding "movement" and making it clear that they are very loosely associated solely by a name is entirely inaccurate. The reality is there is no central "TEA Party" that makes sure every group that uses that name are in some way "Kosher" to a platform while each of the political parties most definitely have exactly that. It is a movement, not an organization.
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO.... cypress does NOT debate substance. He refuses to look at anything that might contradict his religion. He even ignores his own unimpeachable sources when THEY contradict him. All Cypress does is parrot the fear mongering chants.
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He does, it's just not "substance" that you (or Yurt) likes.

He draws his own conclusions, and I don't necessarily agree with those, but he does post facts to back up his conclusions. In those threads, I generally don't see a lot of refutation from you guys - just a lot of insults.
 
Damocles said:
The main difference, all of these associate to a central authority. Believe me, if you try to set up say a "young republicans" group somewhere and do it without following the central committee's rules and processes you will have problems with lawsuits.

Calling it "the" TEA Party without adding "movement" and making it clear that they are very loosely associated solely by a name is a bit weak.
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The Tea Party is relativly new, but there are several groups vying for control of its central authority, most of them are thinly disquised offshoots of the Republican party.
 
Damocles said:
Which wasn't the point of my post. And it is also inaccurate, there were many who say that "the" TEA Party is made up of a bunch of "racists" on this site alone.
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Williams used "satire" to bring to light the hypocrisy of the NAACP. Unfortunately factions within the TEA party chose to embrace the false accusations of racism and ask that he be fired...they were wrong to do so.

Race is not the purview of liberals, persons of color, and blacks only. White men and women of conservative world views get to talk about it too...and THAT is what William's did. He is first and foremost a radio personality who used satire...Can anyone else see the double standard in play here? Only the left wing personalities get to use satire to make their points? Fucked up- totally fucked up
 
Jarod said:
The Tea Party is relativly new, but there are several groups vying for control of its central authority, most of them are thinly disquised offshoots of the Republican party.
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Which changes nothing about the accuracy of my posts. If they actually create a political party, make it official, create central committees, etc. set up rules on who can call themselves part of the "TEA Party", and that's a pretty big "IF"...

IF all of that takes place then calling it "THE TEA Party" would make some sense. However, it isn't a political party it is a protest movement that calls itself after a historical event that we all learned about in Elementary School. There is no central authority, the Northern CO TEA Party Organization is separate from the Southern CO Organization is separate from the Jefferson County Organization, is separate from the Arvada Organization is separate from the Ouray Organization, and so on...

No central authority has any bearing on what any of the separate groups do, while your examples actually do have central organization that set a platform and rules for who and what can associate by name to the Party.
 
Ice Dancer said:
Williams used "satire" to bring to light the hypocrisy of the NAACP. Unfortunately factions within the TEA party chose to embrace the false accusations of racism and ask that he be fired...they were wrong to do so.

Race is not the purview of liberals, persons of color, and blacks only. White men and women of conservative world views get to talk about it too...and THAT is what William's did. He is first and foremost a radio personality who used satire...Can anyone else see the double standard in play here? Only the left wing personalities get to use satire to make their points? Fucked up- totally fucked up
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Well, if you are accused of saying racist shit, it's usually best not to go around writing "satire" about lazy colored people. This isn't rocket surgery.
 
Jarod said:
The Tea Party is relativly new, but there are several groups vying for control of its central authority, most of them are thinly disquised offshoots of the Republican party.
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if any of them win, then we might be able to talk about a national Tea Party organization......which of course we currently have for Republicans and Democrats.....
 
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