The solution to poverty

The debt that is on the books is $16 trillion. That is 100% of our GDP. The American people don't get it. They squawk about cutting spending until someone talks about one of their gobblement benefits then they raise a shit fit and then it doesn't get cut. Allow me to give you some of the reasons we will never cut spending.

Which party doesn't want to roll back the Keynesian Defense spending???

(Because our current arsenal can only destroy the world 5x over.):rolleyes:

1) It benefits old fuckers. Well, we can't touch that spending

Why not? Why can't we just provide basic health and hospice care only for those who need it? Anyone who retires investments and savings is automatically opted out.


2) It benefits little fuckers. Well, we gotta keep paying for the kiddies and their Headstart, SCHIP, free lunch, free breakfast, free phones etc

Got your little race-baiting comment in.

BTW - Faux news is all up in arms about healthy school lunches... Blaming Michelle Obama.

Funny, when it comes to food stamps, they were against people eating junk food.

3) It benefits veterans.

What, no comment? What do you want to cut for veterans? How about starting with pensions for generals who get private sector jobs?

4) It benefits poor fuckers. We gots ta pay fo da heat and da phone and da lectric and da water and the colt 45 etc

Poor 'fuckers'...

Ah, more race baiting... The fear is strong in you. Let your bigotry out... let it out!! Set it free!!

Add it all up and you ain't cutting shit out of the budget. You will yammer about it, but it aint getting done.

Um... I don't know if they tell you this on White Trash TV, but automatic major cuts start in January.


So instead you will say "Hey, I have a wonderful idea, lets tax the rich. They don't need it and they stole it from the po anyway". Except, they don't have enough money to pay for all the shit that we owe.

Straw man.

We want to end some tax cuts and loopholes. That's all.

Try to keep up.:):good4u:
 
completely disagree as i'm a prime living example of someone who not only followed those three rules, but went one further and didn't have children. I'm still living in poverty.

That is why I qualified what I said. But, you raise a good point. Given the past four years, I should add a 4th.

Vote out the Kenyan Muslim in the white house

Thanks for the correction
 
Alright, let me explain it in terms a faux libertarian like you can understand (although I am dubious). It doesn't matter who wins the election. Let me repeat. It doesn't matter who wins the election. That is why I am voting for Calvin Coolidge.

The debt that is on the books is $16 trillion. That is 100% of our GDP. The American people don't get it. They squawk about cutting spending until someone talks about one of their gobblement benefits then they raise a shit fit and then it doesn't get cut. Allow me to give you some of the reasons we will never cut spending.

1) It benefits old fuckers. Well, we can't touch that spending
2) It benefits little fuckers. Well, we gotta keep paying for the kiddies and their Headstart, SCHIP, free lunch, free breakfast, free phones etc
3) It benefits veterans.
4) It benefits poor fuckers. We gots ta pay fo da heat and da phone and da lectric and da water and the colt 45... yall's xanax

5) Bank and other corporate bailouts and welfare
6) Killing Mooslems
7) Arresting, trying and imprisoning people for stupid shit

First off, if we do not adjust 1 it will not matter about the rest. Even your own sources have said this. Yet you and your friends have stubbornly resisted that reform if it hurts rich fuckers. There is plenty of support for cutting 5 but it mostly benefits rich fuckers.

Also, there is plenty, of support for cutting 6 and 7 but it mostly hurts poor fuckers and benefits rich fuckers.

Add it all up and you ain't cutting shit out of the budget. You will yammer about it, but it aint getting done. So instead you will say "Hey, I have a wonderful idea, lets tax the rich. They don't need it and they stole it from the po anyway". Except, they don't have enough money to pay for all the shit that we owe.

AND YOU ONLY YAMMER ABOUT BENEFITS TO THE POOR. There are not enough of those to cut to pay for all the shit we owe. So why do that? Do you want it to go to shit?

We can fix our long term budgetary problems, but not if we don't address them or if we make it so that any mention of them is connected to racist, homophobic, theocratic bullshit. My guess, is we will address them with or without you.

YOU DO PLAY the my side is better than your's game.
 
5) Bank and other corporate bailouts and welfare
6) Killing Mooslems
7) Arresting, trying and imprisoning people for stupid shit

First off, if we do not adjust 1 it will not matter about the rest. Even your own sources have said this. Yet you and your friends have stubbornly resisted that reform if it hurts rich fuckers. There is plenty of support for cutting 5 but it mostly benefits rich fuckers.

Also, there is plenty, of support for cutting 6 and 7 but it mostly hurts poor fuckers and benefits rich fuckers.



AND YOU ONLY YAMMER ABOUT BENEFITS TO THE POOR. There are not enough of those to cut to pay for all the shit we owe. So why do that? Do you want it to go to shit?

We can fix our long term budgetary problems, but not if we don't address them or if we make it so that any mention of them is connected to racist, homophobic, theocratic bullshit. My guess, is we will address them with or without you.

YOU DO PLAY the my side is better than your's game.

Sorry bitchly. You got he wrong guy. Here is a list of what I would cut in no particular order. Now I am sure like other faux libertarians you will have a million reasons for why we can't. Which takes us back to my original point. We are fucked. So here goes

1) dept of agriculture
2) dept of labor
3) dept of interior
4) dept of education
5) dept of energy
6) dept of health and human services
7) phase out socialist insecurity make it the individual's responsibility
8) every housing department
9) every subsidy and dime of or pirate welfare
10) FDA
11) FTC
12) FCC
13) every dime in foreign aid
14) end membership in UN and kick the fuckers out

I am sure there are more but this is a good start. Now let your caterwauling begin
 
Yeah, I did not see anything in their about the DEA or Department of Defense.

Again, clown boy, WHY DOOM any hope of that with your racist bullshit and acting like a complete asshole. No, let's go talk about breast cancer awareness, parrot everything Rush Limbaugh says, spread irrational fears about homosexuals and throw around racial slurs.

You are a fucking cancer and a FAUX human being.
 
Sorry bitchly. You got he wrong guy. Here is a list of what I would cut in no particular order. Now I am sure like other faux libertarians you will have a million reasons for why we can't. Which takes us back to my original point. We are fucked. So here goes

9) every subsidy and dime of or pirate welfare

Yeah, I agree with the idea of not giving welfare to pirates. Let'em get their own eye patches and peg-legs.
 
Yeah, I did not see anything in their about the DEA or Department of Defense.

Again, clown boy, WHY DOOM any hope of that with your racist bullshit and acting like a complete asshole. No, let's go talk about breast cancer awareness, parrot everything Rush Limbaugh says, spread irrational fears about homosexuals and throw around racial slurs.

You are a fucking cancer and a FAUX human being.

OK we can cut out DEA. I said there would probably be more.

I am sure we could find cuts in DOD although I wouldn't cut it entirely. National defense is the one thing the US Constitution authorizes. But I would cut all foreign aid and close all of our embassies in the world as well as bring home every last soldier in every foreign country.

I love how you parrot typical liberal insults once you are confronted with your faux libertarianism. Don't be bitter sugar britches.
 
Yeah, I did not see anything in their about the DEA or Department of Defense.

Again, clown boy, WHY DOOM any hope of that with your racist bullshit and acting like a complete asshole. No, let's go talk about breast cancer awareness, parrot everything Rush Limbaugh says, spread irrational fears about homosexuals and throw around racial slurs.

You are a fucking cancer and a FAUX human being.

Amen brother. :)
 
OK we can cut out DEA. I said there would probably be more.

I am sure we could find cuts in DOD although I wouldn't cut it entirely. National defense is the one thing the US Constitution authorizes. But I would cut all foreign aid and close all of our embassies in the world as well as bring home every last soldier in every foreign country.

I love how you parrot typical liberal insults once you are confronted with your faux libertarianism. Don't be bitter sugar britches.

Insults? You take pride in being a racist homophobic asshole. You go off about the stupidest shit. You don't want to cut a god damn thing. Your list is bullshit and you know it. You talk about what can and can't happen then you throw out this fairytale laundry list and say "if I don't get eveything I want then I will throw a tantrum and drive everyone away."

You are nothing but a saboteur.
 
Insults? You take pride in being a racist homophobic asshole. You go off about the stupidest shit. You don't want to cut a god damn thing. Your list is bullshit and you know it. You talk about what can and can't happen then you throw out this fairytale laundry list and say "if I don't get eveything I want then I will throw a tantrum and drive everyone away."

You are nothing but a saboteur.

You really have poor reading comprehension. So you ask for what I would cut. I give it to you and you call it bogus. LOL

You are right, it is a fairy tale. I know there is no way in hell any of the shit is getting cut. I was just saying what I would cut. And since I ain't in a position to do it I guess it aint gonna happen.

I am not trying to driv anyone away. I am just goin about my life.
 
You really have poor reading comprehension. So you ask for what I would cut. I give it to you and you call it bogus. LOL

You are right, it is a fairy tale. I know there is no way in hell any of the shit is getting cut. I was just saying what I would cut. And since I ain't in a position to do it I guess it aint gonna happen.

I am not trying to driv anyone away. I am just goin about my life.

Okay, you said cut, my bad.

Long term, SS and Medicare are the big ones. I don't see us being able to phase them out entirely but we CAN adjust them and will. Defense is a huge drain on our budget as well.

Your hate mongering drives people away from anything you support. You also show a heavy bias against the poor and young which is stupid. Without economic mobility our tax base will deteriorate and taxes will have to increase on the wealthiest. It's not young people's fault our economy sucks and they will remain poor until it recovers.

However, my prediction is that you will die of a heart attack when one of your male relatives becomes engaged to a black man. Your heirs will then liquidate your old coins for less than you paid. :)
 
Okay, you said cut, my bad.

I guess that was an apology

Long term, SS and Medicare are the big ones. I don't see us being able to phase them out entirely but we CAN adjust them and will. Defense is a huge drain on our budget as well.

We will not adjust SS and Medicare in any meaningful way for the same reason we haven't been able to do it in the past. People talk about it in the abstract. But, when they think about their own personal lives they go "FUCK NO! DON'T TOUCH IT!". Secondly, it would take a politician of unusual capability to overcome the onslaught. People think that who is President matters. It does not. Doesn't matter if it is OWEbama, MIttster, Gary Johnson or Ron Paul. They still have to deal with Congress and no Congressman is going to slit their own throat. They will let it collapse first and protect the political class among all else

Your hate mongering drives people away from anything you support.

First I don't hate anyone, but if you want to believe that so be it. I have said repeatedly there is a reason for the things I post and it isn't what you think. In fact your response only strengthens the reason I do it. It is very nuanced and only the most intelligent could figure it out. Secondly, I am not here to convert anyone. I have long ago given up on the prospect of changing anyones mind. Do you know anyone who has had their mind changed from a message board?

You also show a heavy bias against the poor and young which is stupid.

Considering that is where the bulk of our federal budget goes and they are major TAKERS of the federal largesse, yeah they get some focus.

Without economic mobility our tax base will deteriorate and taxes will have to increase on the wealthiest. It's not young people's fault our economy sucks and they will remain poor until it recovers.

If a young person voted for OWEdummy, than it is their fault

However, my prediction is that you will die of a heart attack when one of your male relatives becomes engaged to a black man. Your heirs will then liquidate your old coins for less than you paid. :)

I have great heart health but thanks for asking. Psst, I have queer relatives. What they do in their personal lives is no issue. As for me dying and what my heirs do with the coins again is of no consequence to me. If they choose to make a bad decision, I can't stop them. That is the wonderful thing about freedom. As much as you may want to, you can't protect people from their bad decisions.
 
I have great heart health but thanks for asking. Psst, I have queer relatives. What they do in their personal lives is no issue. As for me dying and what my heirs do with the coins again is of no consequence to me. If they choose to make a bad decision, I can't stop them. That is the wonderful thing about freedom. As much as you may want to, you can't protect people from their bad decisions.

Pssst, then according to the relevant science you may have been born from the same line that carried the marker. If you have any daughters... shhhh!
 
Is Obama the one shipping good jobs overseas so we are left with a service economy which pays low wages?

Yes. The jobs being created under Obama are low paying, which helps add to those dependent on big government. Obama wants to raise the taxes on corps and 'the wealthy'... corporations are going to manufacture in the most cost effective manner they can. If you raise the cost of doing business, they will head across the pond with the jobs (to the extent they can)
 
Okay, you said cut, my bad.

Long term, SS and Medicare are the big ones. I don't see us being able to phase them out entirely but we CAN adjust them and will. Defense is a huge drain on our budget as well.

Social Security is a relatively easy fix. Provided of course the stupidity of Obama's SS tax ends.

Medicare will never be resolved until we start accepting personal responsibility. The primary reason health care costs continue to escalate is because we as a society on the whole are obese and progressing more into that realm each year.

Without economic mobility our tax base will deteriorate and taxes will have to increase on the wealthiest. It's not young people's fault our economy sucks and they will remain poor until it recovers.

There is a great deal of economic mobility. People move up and down the income quintiles. That said, you are correct this long term economic malaise Obama has stuck us in certainly will not help those young people find work.
 
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