The shooter is a Tea Party member in Colorado...

What the frick is WRONG with them? Why the heck would they immediately try to draw such a stupid connection?

What's really F'd up to me is that the dude's mother, before she left San Diego to come here, said, "Yeah, you got the right guy." according to reports.

If she knew this guy was dangerous yet did nothing about it, how culpable is she?
 
cawacko said:
Oh wait, no he isn't. Great journalism ABC. WTF.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/media...aws-possible-tea-party-connection-129568.html
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He didn't say the shooter is a tea party member.

ABC's Brian Ross reported this morning that there is "a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, page on the Colorado Tea party site... talking about him joining the Tea Party last year."

"Now, we don't know if this is the same Jim Holmes," Ross cautioned "but it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado."

In fact there is absolutely nothing non-factual about what he said. And there are righty blogs out there claiming this must be OWS connected because the film allegedly villainizes OWS. People should just relax instead of searching for reasons to be butthurt. Whenever something like this happens you have to take what is reported early with a big grain of salt. I do. I do NOT look for reasons to be the victim.
 
Darla said:
He didn't say the shooter is a tea party member.

ABC's Brian Ross reported this morning that there is "a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, page on the Colorado Tea party site... talking about him joining the Tea Party last year."

"Now, we don't know if this is the same Jim Holmes," Ross cautioned "but it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado."

In fact there is absolutely nothing non-factual about what he said. And there are righty blogs out there claiming this must be OWS connected because the film allegedly villainizes OWS. People should just relax instead of searching for reasons to be butthurt. Whenever something like this happens you have to take what is reported early with a big grain of salt. I do. I do NOT look for reasons to be the victim.
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Gun-lovers act as if they were the victims.
 
Damocles said:
What the frick is WRONG with them? Why the heck would they immediately try to draw such a stupid connection?

What's really F'd up to me is that the dude's mother, before she left San Diego to come here, said, "Yeah, you got the right guy." according to reports.

If she knew this guy was dangerous yet did nothing about it, how culpable is she?
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Damo she probably knows her son is mentally ill. That doesn't make her culpable. Have you ever known someone with a mentally ill, adult child? I have.
 
Darla said:
He didn't say the shooter is a tea party member.

ABC's Brian Ross reported this morning that there is "a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, page on the Colorado Tea party site... talking about him joining the Tea Party last year."

"Now, we don't know if this is the same Jim Holmes," Ross cautioned "but it's Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado."

In fact there is absolutely nothing non-factual about what he said. And there are righty blogs out there claiming this must be OWS connected because the film allegedly villainizes OWS. People should just relax instead of searching for reasons to be butthurt. Whenever something like this happens you have to take what is reported early with a big grain of salt. I do. I do NOT look for reasons to be the victim.
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I guess I assumed ABC News would have different standards than some right-wing blog. We are on a political board so everything to us is political. If you are a mainstream news reporter reporting on the shooting what would a persons politics matter right after a movie theather shooting?
 
cawacko said:
I guess I assumed ABC News would have different standards than some right-wing blog. We are on a political board so everything to us is political. If you are a mainstream news reporter reporting on the shooting what would a persons politics matter right after a movie theather shooting?
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Are you kidding??? The first thing these guys did was check to see if he was white. If he wasn't, they would have been in a freaking frenzy over TERRORISM!!!. Never mind that terror is a tactic not a race or a religion, they dismissed terrorism immediately because the guy wasn't Muslim. But you know they wanted him to be. Why? Ratings Cawacko. Sometimes talking to you is like talking about sex with a sheltered virgin. Can you really be this naive Cawacko? A political motive, whether it be the teaparty or OWS, during a fricking presidential election? JACKPOT!

And that is all there is to it. Ratings, ad dollars, and of course, for the individual reporters, screentime and glory.
 
cawacko said:
I guess I assumed ABC News would have different standards than some right-wing blog. We are on a political board so everything to us is political. If you are a mainstream news reporter reporting on the shooting what would a persons politics matter right after a movie theather shooting?
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Not only would their politics matter .. so would their race.

News sources would speculate on the causes.
 
No surprise there. Do liberals ever care about the truth? They do not...even when hiding the truth means denying justice for others, such as Brian Terry.
 
Darla said:
Are you kidding??? The first thing these guys did was check to see if he was white. If he wasn't, they would have been in a freaking frenzy over TERRORISM!!!. Never mind that terror is a tactic not a race or a religion, they dismissed terrorism immediately because the guy wasn't Muslim. But you know they wanted him to be. Why? Ratings Cawacko. Sometimes talking to you is like talking about sex with a sheltered virgin. Can you really be this naive Cawacko? A political motive, whether it be the teaparty or OWS, during a fricking presidential election? JACKPOT!

And that is all there is to it. Ratings, ad dollars, and of course, for the individual reporters, screentime and glory.
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You're good. :0)

Right to the point.
 
blackascoal said:
Not only would their politics matter .. so would their race.

News sources would speculate on the causes.
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Right, exactly. It's so obvious. You saw what happened immediately with terrorism questions. Asked, excitement...oh he's white. "No connection to terrorism."

I guess we define the word differently.
 
Darla said:
Damo she probably knows her son is mentally ill. That doesn't make her culpable. Have you ever known someone with a mentally ill, adult child? I have.
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I have, but I have also watched them inform the authorities that her son was mentally ill and shouldn't have guns.

What would make her culpable would be the understanding that he was dangerous, with no sense of responsibility towards others. At least inform the right people that he may be a danger. It's the least you can do, the very least.
 
Damocles said:
I have, but I have also watched them inform the authorities that her son was mentally ill and shouldn't have guns.

What would make her culpable would be the understanding that he was dangerous, with no sense of responsibility towards others.
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Really. Well the person I know has not done that. And this woman appears to have lived in a different state? I noticed she said she had to "fly to Colorado". You don't even know that she knew he had guns.
 
Darla said:
Are you kidding??? The first thing these guys did was check to see if he was white. If he wasn't, they would have been in a freaking frenzy over TERRORISM!!!. Never mind that terror is a tactic not a race or a religion, they dismissed terrorism immediately because the guy wasn't Muslim. But you know they wanted him to be. Why? Ratings Cawacko. Sometimes talking to you is like talking about sex with a sheltered virgin. Can you really be this naive Cawacko? A political motive, whether it be the teaparty or OWS, during a fricking presidential election? JACKPOT!

And that is all there is to it. Ratings, ad dollars, and of course, for the individual reporters, screentime and glory.
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How many times I have told you... I WAS NOT a virgin by choice!!! Quit making fun of me because I could never score.
 
And what? White doesn't mean "not terrorist"... That's silly. The white guy that Obama put a hit on was certainly a terrorist.
 
Damocles said:
And what? White doesn't mean "not terrorist"... That's silly. The white guy that Obama put a hit on was certainly a terrorist.
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Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist. But the media looks to color first, so do, IMO, the authorities. If he's white, it doesn't qualify. That's the culture we live in.
 
Darla said:
Right, exactly. It's so obvious. You saw what happened immediately with terrorism questions. Asked, excitement...oh he's white. "No connection to terrorism."

I guess we define the word differently.
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:0) Like the definition of who "finds" and who "loots."

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