The Secular Case Against Gay Marriage

Damn Yankee said:
Oh here we go with the "you don't support gays so you must be gay" logic. Nice try, dumbass.

Can you point out a single post where I have "bashed" gays?
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It makes as much sense are your "It is only supported by people who hate religion".

I think you basically accusing every homosexual of being predisposed to molesting children is pretty much bashing.
 
The evidence is clear that a relatively high percentage of gays like buggering little boys. Your excuse that they can't tell the difference between little girls and little boys is nothing short of support for their crimes.
 
Damn Yankee said:
The evidence is clear that a relatively high percentage of gays like buggering little boys. Your excuse that they can't tell the difference between little girls and little boys is nothing short of support for their crimes.
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A relatively high percentage? Care to clarify that and cite some actual evidence?
 
We've been through this all before. You've made nothing but excuses and attacked the messengers. That plus your support of maineman paints you as a supporter of child molesters. Children have a right to grow up without a dick up their ass.
 
Oh, what the hell:

Summary: 50% of foster parent abuse in a general population survey and 34% of abuse as determined by the Illinois DCFS was homosexual. In news stories in the 50 largest newspapers and wire services 1980-2003, 175 foster parents sexually abused 351+ charges. For the 169 whose sex of victim could be determined: 149 (88%) were men; 76 (53%) victimized homosexually; and 85 (50%) were unmarried. Men assaulted 319 (91%) victims, homosexual practitioners 222 (63%), and the unmarried 164 (47%). From 1980-1994, 57% of the victims were girls, after 1994 56% were boys. In 21 group homes, the molestation was homosexual in 15 (71%) and 31 of the 32+ perpetrators were male and at least 334 of 349+ victims were boys.
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http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/are-over-a-third-of-foster-parent-molestations-homosexual/

So unless the overall population is 50% gay, this proves the link between gays and buggering kids.
 
Damn Yankee said:
Oh, what the hell:

http://www.familyresearchinst.org/2009/02/are-over-a-third-of-foster-parent-molestations-homosexual/

So unless the overall population is 50% gay, this proves the link between gays and buggering kids.
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No, that proves that Paul Cameron has used bogus numbers and published studies that have been debunked over and over. His claims have no been duplicated by any reputable researchers. In fact, most of his work would only have been published the way he did it, but PAYING to have it published in a periodical that accepts ANY paper from a paying source.

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_cameron.html

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/paul-cameron

"Paul Cameron is an infamous anti-gay propagandist whose one-man statistical chop shop, the Family Research Institute, churns out hate literature masquerading as legitimate science. Cameron dresses up his "studies" with copious footnotes, graphs and charts, and then pays to publish them in certain journals."

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,010.htm

"Finally, enough was enough. After six other psychologists complained that he had deliberately misrepresented of their work in his anti-gay writings, the American Psychological Association (APA) began an investigation. They finally notified him on December 2, 1983, that the board voted to drop him from the membership “for lack of cooperation with the Committee on Scientific and Professional Ethics and Conduct.”6 In Dr. Cameron’s rebuttal posted on his web site, he said he had already resigned from the APA on November 7, and that his resignation was accepted.7 But like most professional organizations, the APA cannot accept the resignation of a member while he is under investigation. This is a very common rule, meant to prevent a member from short-circuiting an ethics investigation. Meanwhile, the APA has taken extraordinary measures to disassociate themselves from him."

"But none of this fazed Dr. Cameron. When he misused Dr. A Nicolas Groth’s research in a pamphlet entitled “Child Molestation and Homosexuality,” Dr. Groth wrote the Nebraska Board of Examiners of Psychologists on August 21, 1984 that Dr. Cameron:

[Dr. Cameron] misrepresents my findings and distorts them to advance his homophobic views. I make a very clear distinction in my writing between pedophilia and homosexuality, noting that adult males who sexually victimize young boys are either pedophilic or heterosexual, and that in my research I have not found homosexual men turning away from adult partners to children.

I consider this totally unprofessional behavior on the part of Dr. Cameron and I want to bring this to your attention. He disgraces his profession."



http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2005/winter/the-fabulist
 
Damn Yankee said:
We've been through this all before. You've made nothing but excuses and attacked the messengers. That plus your support of maineman paints you as a supporter of child molesters. Children have a right to grow up without a dick up their ass.
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I didn't attack the messenger, I proved links to articles debunking Paul Caemron's research and of the number of people who claim he is completely unprofessional and his facts are bogus.

One showed that the extremely small size of his survey group meant there could be as much as a 33% margin of error. 33% margin of error??? That proves nothing.


And it is still simply a diversion because you have no rational argument against gay marriage except your own personal issues.
 
Damn Yankee said:
We've been through this all before. You've made nothing but excuses and attacked the messengers. That plus your support of maineman paints you as a supporter of child molesters. Children have a right to grow up without a dick up their ass.
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Ya know, DY, I do enjoy reading your posts. You're as "off-the-wall" as they come. :lol:
 
SM, I am amazed you didn't quote another statistic from one of Cameron's studies. Did you know that his research shows that lesbians are 300 times more likely to die in a car accident?
 
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