The right wing cannot defend Trump anymore.

This is great! Even if he isn't the nominee the MAGA base is voting for Trump regardless of who wins the republican nomination. As the charges pile up the republicans will want to distance themselves from Trump and he will treat them as traitors. There is no way we will have a republican president in 2024.

Trump says he'll stay in the presidential race even if he's awaiting prison
Former President Donald Trump on Friday vowed that he will not abandon his presidential campaign even if he is convicted and sentenced.

"Not at all," Trump told conservative radio host John Fredericks when asked if a conviction and sentence would end his campaign. "There's nothing in the Constitution to say that it could — even the radical left crazies are saying no that wouldn't stop. It wouldn't stop me either."
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ptif219 said:
No I grew up in Wisconsin when he was in power. The thing is the Democrats are still doing what Daiey did in elections
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that is simply not true. You should have said " I believe they are doing what Daley did" Because what you believe is not true.
 
I am waiting for someone in the army running against him for the nomination to talk about his 4-year crime spree. Christie has told the truth about Daffy Donald. If some other candidates get the guts to chime in, Trump can be exposed to the Repub base as the criminal he is. His criming is why there are a dozen people running.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Explain how it was "the left's" fault that Trump didn't fade into obscurity when Fox News (until now) was his most vocal and ardent defender using 3 major "news" outlets? Or was the country to just ignore his criminal actions involving Jan. 6th or with refusing to return classified documents from his home post Presidential term?

Naa-unnh, son. Dump caused his own problems, and compounds them with his increasingly irrational tweets and speeches at right wing rallies.

But it looks like old "Teflon Don" magic is coming to an end.
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Because FOX alone wouldn't have the juice to keep him the spotlight for long in any case. Instead, it was the Jan 6 committee, countless probes by prosecutors who hate the guy, and other Democrats, along with the MSM gushing over every blow Trump was given, that kept him front and center. It was CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, NPR, and the like along with Democrat politicians that were out to get him that made and kept him a national figure.

Hillary disappeared from the stage after her loss. There's been little media coverage of her. Obama is the same way. If the Democrats and Leftist media had ignored Trump he'd have disappeared too. But they didn't. They couldn't let go, and here we are with the asshole poised to potentially win another election as president.

The choice of Biden was the Democrat's doom. In what should be an easy coast to another term in 2024, they are poised instead to lose the election because they ran a senile retard.
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Your first sentence would have merit if you were a foreigner with a recently stamped visa. Fox for YEARS has been bragging about its high ratings (commercial & cable)...a matter of fact, a matter of history. So basically you pull the rug out from under the rest of your MAGA revisionist clap trap.

But seriously, how stupid would people have to be to ignore the FACTS surrounding an ex-President's law breaking escapades? How incompetent would ANY real news service be?

NO ONE forced the Orange Oaf to do any of the crap he's pulled or said in his 1 Presidential term. And like it or not, his "private" business dealing before 2016 are not under the blanked of "executive privilege". And NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW....at least in theory anyway.

So you can just sit and stew in the MAGA mush that will be parroted until doomsday....carrying the water for a man who wipes his feet on the likes of you, then lies to your face about it with that phone plastic smile of his.

Let us know when you can afford a night in one of his hotels without breaking the budget for the year. Oh, and by the by.....HE'S BEEN OFFICIALLY INDICTED AND BOOKED! :laugh:
 
Port Tack said:
This is great! Even if he isn't the nominee the MAGA base is voting for Trump regardless of who wins the republican nomination. As the charges pile up the republicans will want to distance themselves from Trump and he will treat them as traitors. There is no way we will have a republican president in 2024.
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You said that in 2016 also.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
You said that in 2016 also.
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He won the nomination in 2016 so how is that possible? Win or lose the nomination this time around there is no way Trump is going to win anything. The MAGA base is not enough to elect a president and most of that same MAGA base isn't going to be voting for a republican if it isn't trump. Most sane republicans aren't going to be voting for a criminal so if he is the nominee he will lose.
 
ptif219 said:
Those things will hurt thia country. Those things are about Biden helping his money govers in the Union. Biden is only helping himself Unions and China


I notice they did not mention inflation or gas prices of the border or the Military that Biden killed or how Biden loves China
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Maybe that is because inflation and gas prices were the result of the pandemic not Biden. I did see where Biden kept our inflation rates 3-5 times less than the rest of the developed world and gas prices less than half of the rest of the developed world. As far as killing the military, that's republicans doing that.

This is the headlines you see about Biden....

Biden’s accomplishments match up well with well-regarded former presidents
In the first 19 months of his presidency, President Joe Biden’s accomplishments echo themes and priorities from the major initiatives of Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Lyndon B. Johnson and Ronald Reagan.
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These are the ones you see about Trump....

New Trump Charges Show 'Devastating Proof' of Obstruction
New charges against former President Donald Trump in the classified-documents case provide "devastating proof" that the ex-president is guilty of obstruction. "The charges and the new allegations are really significant, This idea of, like, 'OK, get rid of the surveillance tapes.' I mean, that is such devastating proof of obstruction and the underlying criminality. You don't need to get rid of the surveillance tapes if you didn't do anything wrong ".
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Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll
Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse. A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.
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Ex-Trump lawyer says evidence against him ‘overwhelming’ in Mar-a-Lago case
A former Trump White House lawyer said the evidence against the former president over his handling of classified documents would “last an antiquity”. “This is such a tight case, the evidence is so overwhelming.” Trump was accused of attempting to destroy evidence and inducing someone else to destroy evidence. He also faces a new count under the Espionage Act, for keeping a document about US plans to attack Iran which he memorably discussed on tape.
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What criminal charges could Trump face in January 6 investigation?
A grand jury is expected to meet again on Thursday in Washington DC as Donald Trump faces the prospect of a new criminal indictment. Here's a deeper look at the potential charges Mr Trump could face in this case:
Conspiracy to defraud the United States
Deprivation of rights
Tampering with a witness
Obstruction of an official proceeding
Conspiracy to make a false statement
Insurrection
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Georgia DA likely to announce Trump indictment decision in August
Trump, 76, and some members of his 2020 election team could face indictments for conspiracy to commit election fraud or charges related to racketeering in plotting to undermine the 2020 presidential race results. Recommendations for an indictment were revealed in a special grand jury report delivered to Willis in January
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Trump Admits To Authorizing Stormy Daniels Payoff
President Trump admitted Thursday to reimbursing his lawyer for a $130,000 payment made on the eve of the 2016 election to porn actress Stormy Daniels as part of a settlement about her alleged 2006 sexual encounter with Trump.
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Who do you think anyone with a few brain cells is going to vote for?
 
Taichiliberal said:
Your first sentence would have merit if you were a foreigner with a recently stamped visa. Fox for YEARS has been bragging about its high ratings (commercial & cable)...a matter of fact, a matter of history. So basically you pull the rug out from under the rest of your MAGA revisionist clap trap.

But seriously, how stupid would people have to be to ignore the FACTS surrounding an ex-President's law breaking escapades? How incompetent would ANY real news service be?

NO ONE forced the Orange Oaf to do any of the crap he's pulled or said in his 1 Presidential term. And like it or not, his "private" business dealing before 2016 are not under the blanked of "executive privilege". And NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW....at least in theory anyway.

So you can just sit and stew in the MAGA mush that will be parroted until doomsday....carrying the water for a man who wipes his feet on the likes of you, then lies to your face about it with that phone plastic smile of his.

Let us know when you can afford a night in one of his hotels without breaking the budget for the year. Oh, and by the by.....HE'S BEEN OFFICIALLY INDICTED AND BOOKED! :laugh:
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It's you that is an oblivious moron. Even on this board, I observe that something upwards of 90% of the Trump threads are started by Leftists and are about 'He's finished, this time for sure!,' 'Trump indicted again!,' 'Trump's a criminal, traitor, spy, evil spawn of the devil...' or the like. The Trumpers here--of which I am NOT one--respond to that and a flame war ensues. If you idiot Leftists stopped obsessing on Trump, the Trumpers wouldn't have anything to fight you over. Let them make the first move for once. Then it's their flame war rather than yours.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
They don't have to defend Trump. The Left is going to do it for them. I think bringing 3 or 4 more court cases should be sufficient to piss virtually everyone who's not a Leftist off with the obviousness it's all a political witch hunt...
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You can’t ignore criminal behavior even if it helps your opponent.
 
ptif219 said:
You will never admit how corrupt Democrats are
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Two problems with your post. The thread is clearly about Trump. And your simple-minded belief that Dems are corrupt requires proof. Not your puerile little unbacked beliefs.
Do you think deflection is a debate? Try and do better.
 
Jarod said:
You can’t ignore criminal behavior even if it helps your opponent.
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YOU can, it's the justice system that shouldn't. But as I said earlier in slightly different terms, when the justice system is politicized and goes off halfcocked with dubious charges the defendant is going to walk. That's why impeachment--twice--failed. That's why it's likely the cases now being brought will fail. Better to bring one solid, sure case, than use the shotgun approach and stack charges that won't fly.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
YOU can, it's the justice system that shouldn't. But as I said earlier in slightly different terms, when the justice system is politicized and goes off halfcocked with dubious charges the defendant is going to walk. That's why impeachment--twice--failed. That's why it's likely the cases now being brought will fail. Better to bring one solid, sure case, than use the shotgun approach and stack charges that won't fly.
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If the allegations are true, this is not dubious.

If Trump, after being subpoenaed instructed his employees to destroy evidence, do you not believe it’s a crime?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It's you that is an oblivious moron. Even on this board, I observe that something upwards of 90% of the Trump threads are started by Leftists and are about 'He's finished, this time for sure!,' 'Trump indicted again!,' 'Trump's a criminal, traitor, spy, evil spawn of the devil...' or the like. The Trumpers here--of which I am NOT one--respond to that and a flame war ensues. If you idiot Leftists stopped obsessing on Trump, the Trumpers wouldn't have anything to fight you over. Let them make the first move for once. Then it's their flame war rather than yours.
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I observe you lie.
 
Jarod said:
So I guess any charges against the messiah are weak.
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I didn't say that. I stated that it's better to bring one or two solid, for sure, charges than a whole raft of half assed ones and a lot of people, even Trump haters, are saying a lot of the charges out there now are half assed.
 
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