The REALITY that the Alt Right does not want to face about San Francisco and NYC

Walt said:
Huge numbers of educated immigrants are attempting to come to the USA, and many of the uneducated ones will be educated within a generation or two. About half of all successful startup entrepreneurs are either first or second generation immigrants.
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Yeah. They're all Brain Surgeons and Rocket Scientists. (I think you missed the point on 'Climate Change' and 'Overpopulation')
 
Walt said:
Huge numbers of educated immigrants are attempting to come to the USA, and many of the uneducated ones will be educated within a generation or two. About half of all successful startup entrepreneurs are either first or second generation immigrants.
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You mean like all those immigrants that came here 3 generations ago that still can't learn the English language?
 
CFM said:
You mean like all those immigrants that came here 3 generations ago that still can't learn the English language?
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An immigrant who has been here for 3 generations, would be born in America, with parents who were born in America, and grandparents who came to America. They are more American than trump, who only had one parent born in the USA.

Everyone I have met that is that American speaks fluent English, and usually English as a first language.
 
Walt said:
Maybe. I am also thinking like someone who has seen many, many telecommuting projects fail in the last 12 years. It is hard to have a real team without some level of direct communication.
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3.2% of the work force works remotely.The figure is growing. No one is saying everyone will work remotely but the number is exploding with the quarantine. The flip side a company in Seattle is doubling its floor space so it can space desks further apart. I figure things like 5G, AI and quantum computers will all grow the remote number. I also suspect remote work will become piece work with specific performance parameters in order to circumvent laziness. My son is a system admin and started working an office but is now at home virtually full time.
 
Walt said:
An immigrant who has been here for 3 generations, would be born in America, with parents who were born in America, and grandparents who came to America. They are more American than trump, who only had one parent born in the USA.

Everyone I have met that is that American speaks fluent English, and usually English as a first language.
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No. An immigrant that has been here for 3 generations would mean their children and grandchildren were born here. Otherwise, they wouldn't be called immigrants.

Your nigger only had one parent born in this country. The parent that was born here chose to be white trash.
 
Walt said:
Too many people want to live in San Francisco and NYC. That is just a fact. There is not enough room for them all, so our society does what capitalist societies do, and drives up the prices until many people cannot afford to live in those places.

Artists haven't been able to live in Greenwich Village(NYC) in decades. It is darn expensive, and hard to swing without a high six figure income.

So if people are driven from San Francisco and NYC, then there are more than enough people to replace them. It might even allow both to get back to more creative, bohemian roots.
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Walt said:
An immigrant who has been here for 3 generations, would be born in America, with parents who were born in America, and grandparents who came to America. They are more American than trump, who only had one parent born in the USA.

Everyone I have met that is that American speaks fluent English, and usually English as a first language.
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Walter, there are 20-30 million illegals (non-citizens) in America.

Open borders, sanctuary cities, drugs, drug gangs, sex traffickers, pouring into America.

All because the Democrats want their votes.
 
katzgar said:
the thing is you dont have a point on over population
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Do you feel humans are the cause of Climate Change?
Do you think MORE humans or LESS humans will help the Environment?
Do you think it would be Great if America was like China or India in population?
When is it EASIEST to stop Overpopulation, before it happens, or after it happens?
Do you believe the Planet has a Maximum Carrying Capacity?

Will you attempt to answer any of these questions, or just continue to live in your own fantasy world?
 
Walt said:
Let's say an immigrant can create a job where none existed before.
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That does happen. That's called capitalism.
Walt said:
Then he is not taking a job, but he is creating several jobs. He is creating his own job. And he is becoming a customer, and by doing so will create other jobs.
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Also true.
Walt said:
I am not saying that is the way it always works, but it certainly is a way that it sometimes works.
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Also true.
Walt said:
Reducing the number of people could reduce the number of customers, and job creators, thereby making even fewer jobs.
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Also true.
Walt said:
There are definitely not enough jobs now, but four years ago, we had basically full employment. Full employment means there is still structural and frictional unemployment, but nothing beyond that.
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Here you are wrong. In 2016, unemployment was still quite high (thanks, Obama, who called this the "New Normal"). In just the first year of Trump's presidency, he was already removing the regulations and taxes that was stifling the U.S. economy. The result was spectacular success. Even today, with Covid19 smacking the economy down for the count, the economy is improving, despite what Covid19 has done to it, thanks to Trump.
 
Earl said:
If an illegal (non-citizen) ties his/her shoes in America, they do so illegally.

Arrest and deport all illegals.

It is the law.
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It is the law. Unfortunately, there are a lot of illegals in the country today. It's simplistic to think you can simply arrest them all.
A far better way is to make it unprofitable to hire them, and take away their welfare.
 
Jack said:
You know, an 'immigrant' that comes here with a Billion dollars or a 4 year degree might be an exception to my 'No Immigration' Policy.

Your deliberate attempt to 'fog' the Discussion isn't productive. The Fact that 'Automation, Robotics, and Artificial Intelligence' is and will be taking jobs from humans is here NOW. Let's make sure our children and grandchildren have jobs before some guy from Bangladesh.
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Automation, robotics, and artificial intelligence CREATES jobs. Higher paying ones too. All that stuff has to be built, repaired, and maintained.
 
CFM said:
It rarely works that way compared to immigrants taking jobs because they're willing to work for what the job is actually worth in wages vs. some entitlement minded citizen that thinks a low skilled job is somehow worth $15/hour.
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You quite correctly point out the results of price controls. They always create shortages. They never work. In the case of wage controls, all it does is put people out of work. You are also quite right in that illegals will take jobs below minimum wage, because they can't run to the government for price controls.
 
Walt said:
Huge numbers of educated immigrants are attempting to come to the USA, and many of the uneducated ones will be educated within a generation or two. About half of all successful startup entrepreneurs are either first or second generation immigrants.
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And how will they afford that education? Who is paying for it?
 
Earl said:
Walter, there are 20-30 million illegals (non-citizens) in America.

Open borders, sanctuary cities, drugs, drug gangs, sex traffickers, pouring into America.

All because the Democrats want their votes.
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After all, illegal immigrants not only vote, they vote multiple times! They paid to do it!
 
The problem in SF is they are out of room to expand. Portland artificially did this by imposing growth boundaries. Compounding SF's problem is that fact that there are no major road arteries into the city making access difficult at best. SF deliberately chose to avoid building highways through the city that could connect it to the rest of the bay area easily substituting light and heavy rail (the Muni and BART). But even in SF, public transit is not popular if you have an alternative. So the city struggles against people wanting cars no choo choo trains and buses.

NYC has simply gotten as large as is practical and as urban density increases there the transportation infrastructure is getting overworked. Doesn't help that the MTA (subway etc.) is run by union hacks and retards, not to mention the corrupt.

In the Electronics Age, unlike the Industrial Age, decentralization of business and most activities is far more possible and practical. So, businesses and people are moving from high density urban areas with pollution, high taxes, crime, poverty, and all the other problems to places that are the opposite of that. Sure, for many uber rich the attractiveness of a high density urban area is the access to all sorts of entertainment, restaurants, and the like but they can avoid the down side being uber rich. They have people that shoo the impoverished and homeless away from where they are, have body guards and security that ensure crime doesn't happen to them. High taxes are a nuisance they put up with, but they have sufficient funds it really doesn't matter because they can always go elsewhere when they choose to.
The people who leave are the Middle Class. They too have a choice but don't have the money to make urban living comfortable or attractive. So, they leave for greener pastures.
 
Into the Night said:
Define 'too many fucking people'. Don't you like that people fuck?
Define 'not enough jobs'. If you can't find work, go out and create your own job. No one's stopping you.

How will that solve anything? Did you know that everyone (including immigrants) is a consumer?
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Would you like America to become like China or India in population?
Do you think 'Automation, Robotics, and Artificial Intelligence' will be taking jobs away from Humans?
 
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