The President Bows . . .

unfortunate for you, you're the only dishonest hack in this conservation....

any rational person will realize that there must have been a hoopla over it....i seriously doubt only the NYT talked about it...i am sure rush bitched about it, if was on the air back then.....it even stated that admin officials were "scurrying" to explain the situation away....

yeah, it was no big deal, but they were frantically trying to play the situation down....

if you want to continue your twisted view of the events, go for it...but it is at best hyperbole that i am being dishonest and at worst outright dishonest for claiming that no reasonable person could see that many were outraged, shocked, wowed, whatever.....

:rolleyes:

My twisted view of the events?

Let's put 'er to a vote. Who here agrees with Yurtie's characterization of the Clinton half-bow that BOTH Democrats and Republicans were OUTRAGED?

Based on the NYT article he posted. Let's hear from the people!
 
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LOL. It's Jarod thinking he can pretend that I am doing what he was doing to me yesterday.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you and Dungheap were all over Bush for his shoulder rub on Merkle. If not, you can gather what I am saying from it. The left criticized Bush for breaking protocol, and now expect a pass from their messiah. So much so, they somehow expect nobody to even notice that it is a gaffe.

I dont care about Obama's manors, I care about his policies and his ability to accomplish them. I dont think the American people care about his maners. Only the haters care. Now dont attack me for things you dont know if I did...
 
unfortunate for you, you're the only dishonest hack in this conservation....

any rational person will realize that there must have been a hoopla over it....i seriously doubt only the NYT talked about it...i am sure rush bitched about it, if was on the air back then.....it even stated that admin officials were "scurrying" to explain the situation away....

yeah, it was no big deal, but they were frantically trying to play the situation down....

if you want to continue your twisted view of the events, go for it...but it is at best hyperbole that i am being dishonest and at worst outright dishonest for claiming that no reasonable person could see that many were outraged, shocked, wowed, whatever.....

:rolleyes:
the very definision of a hack is personified by some tool bitching about a bow. LOFL touliusmaximus
 
My twisted view of the events?

Let's put 'er to a vote. Who here agrees with Yurtie's characterization of the Clinton half-bow that BOTH Democrats and Republicans were OUTRAGED?

Based on the NYT article he posted. Let's hear from the people!

He didn't mind GW projectile vomiting on the Japanese leaders shoe's did he?
 
The Republicans are doing there best to try to make the President of the United States look weak, how do you think this makes the USA look to Al Queda... Ill tell you what all this attacking of the president does... It provides aid and comfort to our enemies, it emboldens AL QUEDA!

Who does the above sound like?

Actually, Obama is doing a good job of that by himself.... the fact that his apologists are out in force only makes him look weaker still.
 
What are you talking about, you are a dithering idiot!

poor Alice... too ignorant to comprehend the English language? I knew you had a problem with spelling, but was unaware your ignorance extended to illiteracy.

I said... Obama does a good job making himself look weak. I also stated his vast army of apologists are helping make him look weak when they run to his defense every time someone dares to criticize dear leader.
 
No, one man's gaffe is a gaffe, and his supporters spin is spin.

Citing the State Department is not an opinion piece. While the opinion piece may be something I posted, it was the relevant cites from the State Department that were important, not the opinion.



I prefer intelligence above arrogance and its accompanying complexes. If the end resullt is improved relations with the People of Japan, screw protocol. I imagine any Secretary of State with merit would say the same thing.

Did you research the opinion piece in order to guarantee its accuracy? I never heard of the guy, did you? No words on protocol directly from the Dept. of State? If the RW concern is so great why is it not more available than from a 15 year old opinion piece?
 
I dont care about Obama's manors, I care about his policies and his ability to accomplish them. I dont think the American people care about his maners. Only the haters care. Now dont attack me for things you dont know if I did...
I think you are wrong, I think they care about his policy and his manners.
 
poor Alice... too ignorant to comprehend the English language? I knew you had a problem with spelling, but was unaware your ignorance extended to illiteracy.

I said... Obama does a good job making himself look weak. I also stated his vast army of apologists are helping make him look weak when they run to his defense every time someone dares to criticize dear leader.

that's assinine
spellcheck that for me dorkboy
 
poor Alice... too ignorant to comprehend the English language? I knew you had a problem with spelling, but was unaware your ignorance extended to illiteracy.

I said... Obama does a good job making himself look weak. I also stated his vast army of apologists are helping make him look weak when they run to his defense every time someone dares to criticize dear leader.

I love the repetitive, tiresome use of "dear leader," "messiah" and - my personal favorite - "the Hugo Obama."

Some of the most vitriolic criticism of Obama has come from the left, particularly regarding foreign policy.

Sorry if I can't muster anything for "the big bow." I'm trying - I really am - but it just isn't doing anything for me. Must mean I worship Obama...
 
I prefer intelligence above arrogance and its accompanying complexes. If the end resullt is improved relations with the People of Japan, screw protocol. I imagine any Secretary of State with merit would say the same thing.

Did you research the opinion piece in order to guarantee its accuracy? I never heard of the guy, did you? No words on protocol directly from the Dept. of State? If the RW concern is so great why is it not more available than from a 15 year old opinion piece?
I trusted the NYT do that for me. Much like many trust the media for things like that. Of course, that is also with prior knowledge on the subject as I have paid attention when previous presidents have almost made the same gaffe.

It simply is what the State Department reports as protocol, that is about it, it isn't complex, and it is even something a new President could learn rather quickly. "Don't bow" isn't complicated and it is something the State Department has stated for over 200 years. Americans fought for rights because we believed all men are equal, we don't bow.
 
poor Alice... too ignorant to comprehend the English language? I knew you had a problem with spelling, but was unaware your ignorance extended to illiteracy.

I said... Obama does a good job making himself look weak. I also stated his vast army of apologists are helping make him look weak when they run to his defense every time someone dares to criticize dear leader.

This country had existed for almost 190 years before it got the first President who invited us to doubt its greatness. That was Mr. Carter, who will also be remembered as the man who ushered in the Islamic terrorist regime that still rules Iran today.

Now we have a President who goes much farther than Carter did. He doesn't just invite us to doubt the United States--he says flat out he doesn't think we're anything special. And yet he represents this country to the world. He's also sworn to preserve, protect, and defend our Constitution.

The repeated apologies for America's supposed arrogance, the bows to foreign leaders, the appeasement of Iran, and the sympathy for captured jihadists all show the same thing. Mr. Obama feels more sympathy for angry radicals in other countries than he does for the United States, as we've always known it.

Like his Communist friends, Mr. Obama believes this country's history (as far as he understands it) is as notable for slavery, capitalist exploitation, and imperialist warmongering as for any great achievements. And so, whatever pride we feel in America should be offset by shame for its sins. If this country doesn't actually deserve to be dismantled, we should at least take it down a notch or two.

And accordingly, this President's foreign policy is designed to do just that. The U.S. is to be just one more spoke on the wheel, equal to all the others, and rolling along in harmony with them. Or so the pipe dream goes. We've now taught enough Americans to loathe their own country to make a policy like this possible, for the first time in our history. If not an admission of defeat, it's an indication of our decline.

The U.S. has always been an exceptional country--the "last, best hope of man on Earth." It's only the fact America had enormous power, and the will to use it if necessary, that prevented a third world war for all those decades after the second one ended in 1945. The world lives by the law of the jungle, and believing that's terribly wrong, or sincerely wishing for world peace, doesn't make it one bit less true.

A weaker America that's pulled in its horns won't make the world safer. It will make it far more chaotic and dangerous. When we cause more or less friendly countries to doubt our judgment and our resolve, we are practically inviting them to cut the best deals they can with our adversaries and even with our outright enemies. Or, maybe even worse, to arm themselves. Weakness toward North Korea and Iran makes Japan and South Korea and Saudi Arabia think about having the bomb, too--and they can get it.
 
This is just one of those "patirotic" issues to fireup the uneducated trying to convence them Obama is not patirotic and is selling America's soul!
 
This is just one of those "patirotic" issues to fireup the uneducated trying to convence them Obama is not patirotic and is selling America's soul!
*ahem*

Onceler... fair and balanced, et al. Hyperbole. Stuff...

You aren't even close to as eager as you expect me to be stuffing this stuff back in its box.
 
*ahem*

Onceler... fair and balanced, et al. Hyperbole. Stuff...

You aren't even close to as eager as you expect me to be stuffing this stuff back in its box.

Hey - it's already 1-0!

Jarod - I told you! Stop this hyperbole immediately!

There - now it's 2-0....
 
This is just one of those "patirotic" issues to fireup the uneducated trying to convence them Obama is not patirotic and is selling America's soul!

Dummy up dummy. If you're going to have the balls to say something succinct, then at least spell correctly you ignoramus!

You're probably one of the idiots they passed in grade after grade because you maintained a D- average and minuses and plusses don't transfer!

This is what liberalism has done to the American people. We've produced a bunch of moronic imbeciles!

You dare to utter the word "uneducated"!!!!!!!?????
 
This country had existed for almost 190 years before it got the first President who invited us to doubt its greatness. That was Mr. Carter, who will also be remembered as the man who ushered in the Islamic terrorist regime that still rules Iran today.

Now we have a President who goes much farther than Carter did. He doesn't just invite us to doubt the United States--he says flat out he doesn't think we're anything special. And yet he represents this country to the world. He's also sworn to preserve, protect, and defend our Constitution.

The repeated apologies for America's supposed arrogance, the bows to foreign leaders, the appeasement of Iran, and the sympathy for captured jihadists all show the same thing. Mr. Obama feels more sympathy for angry radicals in other countries than he does for the United States, as we've always known it.

Like his Communist friends, Mr. Obama believes this country's history (as far as he understands it) is as notable for slavery, capitalist exploitation, and imperialist warmongering as for any great achievements. And so, whatever pride we feel in America should be offset by shame for its sins. If this country doesn't actually deserve to be dismantled, we should at least take it down a notch or two.

And accordingly, this President's foreign policy is designed to do just that. The U.S. is to be just one more spoke on the wheel, equal to all the others, and rolling along in harmony with them. Or so the pipe dream goes. We've now taught enough Americans to loathe their own country to make a policy like this possible, for the first time in our history. If not an admission of defeat, it's an indication of our decline.

The U.S. has always been an exceptional country--the "last, best hope of man on Earth." It's only the fact America had enormous power, and the will to use it if necessary, that prevented a third world war for all those decades after the second one ended in 1945. The world lives by the law of the jungle, and believing that's terribly wrong, or sincerely wishing for world peace, doesn't make it one bit less true.

A weaker America that's pulled in its horns won't make the world safer. It will make it far more chaotic and dangerous. When we cause more or less friendly countries to doubt our judgment and our resolve, we are practically inviting them to cut the best deals they can with our adversaries and even with our outright enemies. Or, maybe even worse, to arm themselves. Weakness toward North Korea and Iran makes Japan and South Korea and Saudi Arabia think about having the bomb, too--and they can get it.

Great post. Obama's arrogance knows no boundaries.
 
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