Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
People get rich by treating others like property, and screwing them. It's not noble.
the power to tax
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People get rich by treating others like property, and screwing them. It's not noble.
maineman
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never said they did...never implied they did.... only said that red states drool, the village idiot, cannot jump to the conclusion that because there is a net migration from high tax rate states that said migration is due to that tax rate.
got it? good.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Of course he can.
maineman
Banned
well....I guess you are right.... village idiots can do anything they want.
Let me rephrase that: red states drool, the village idiot, cannot CORRECTLY or ACCURATELY jump to the conclusion that because there is a net migration from high tax rate states that said migration is due to that tax rate.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
It's totally accurate and correct. Obvious even.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
I left New York because of the high property taxes dude. States are like products, and a smart buyer chooses one based on getting the best value. *shrug*
maineman
Banned
and for truly discerning citizens, "value" has a lot more facets to it than tax rates... but clearly... that sort of discernment was never part of your skill set.
Socrtease
Verified User
Pure class envy bullshit. Most people do not become wealthy by treating people like property or screwing them. They get wealthy through hard work and ingenuity. I am so tired of hearing those on the left talk about how horrible the top 5% are. And why stop there. WHy not the top 10% or 15%, because that is what will happen. As programs need more money then more people will become those evil rich people. Rich people create jobs, rich people buy things that keep people working, but so to do MANY people in the middle class. Things do not become better by taking from those that work hard, invent, and invest their money.
seems that most people migrate from one state to another is for jobs not tax rates
or climate
still as a native californian i am happy with a net loss of people in calif
red states rule
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Oh my, another blue state sees rich people flee after a tax increase
It's not just millionaires fleeing Maryland taxes
By: Marta Mossburg
Examiner Columnist
May 18, 2009 Maryland’s “millionaires’ tax” flopped. It was doomed from the start.
Anyone taking Economics 101 could have predicted that those best able to avoid Maryland’s new 6.25 percent marginal tax rate on income over $1 million would. They are the ones best able to choose where to live and to pay accountants and lawyers to lower their tax burden.
Market losses no doubt contributed to one-third fewer people filing taxes in that income bracket in Maryland by April 15, as supporters of the legislation say. So did those filing extensions. But they and the Republicans yelling “I told you so” miss a bigger issue: Everyone is leaving Maryland, not just the rich.
Drive south on I-83 during morning rush hour for evidence. Count how many Pennsylvania license plates adorn cars making their way south into Baltimore City in bumper to bumper traffic.
Move over to I-95, and add Delaware tags to the mix. I doubt there are enough Richie Riches to fill those cars, especially since 40 percent of the 6,000 residents earning more than $1 million each year live in Montgomery County.
At least a good portion of them have to be middle class people wanting more land, a bigger house and lower property taxes. Just talk to Baltimore City police officers who call Pennsylvania home.
And it’s not just anecdotal evidence. The U.S. Census Bureau shows more people are migrating out of Maryland than moving in. The only reason Maryland is gaining population is from women in the state having babies.
According to data from the 2005-07 American Community Survey, about 9,000 more people moved to Pennsylvania from Maryland than made the reverse trip. About 2,000 more people moved to Delaware from Maryland than the other way around. And about 3,500 more people moved to Virginia from Maryland than the opposite.
Let’s look at a few more favored destinations. Over 8,000 more people moved to North Carolina from Maryland than North Carolinians moved to the Free State. And about 7,000 more people moved to Florida from Maryland than the other way around.
Even West Virginia lured nearly 3,000 more Maryland residents than the other way around. C’mon. No one can say West Virginia has more to offer than Maryland.
What do all of those states have in common? Lower taxes.
The only bordering locale where more people moved to Maryland than away is the District of Columbia. My guess is that the inflow will slow since the Census results do not account for migration patterns since the slate of new taxes went into effect in 2008 that make Maryland more tax-heavy than Washington. Those new taxes mean Marylanders shoulder the fourth highest tax burden in the nation, according to the Tax Foundation.
All of that evidence cannot be a coincidence.
Analyses of other states show it is not. In their 2009 American Legislative Exchange Council report, “Rich States, Poor States,” Arthur Laffer, Stephen Moore and Jonathan Williams show that “over the past 25 years, tens of millions of Americans (and immigrants) have voted with their feet against anti-growth policies that reduce economic freedom and opportunity in states mostly located in the Northeast and Midwest.”
Their study cites California as a key example of how natural beauty, great weather, ports and other advantages (remind readers of someplace?) cannot overcome a high-tax and anti-business environment. From 1998-2007, California experienced the second largest outflow of people of any state in the country.
They also show that high-tax states also produce some of the biggest income disparities within their borders, the ironic consequence of redistributionist policies.
Comptroller Peter Franchot will not be able to give a final assessment of millionaires’ tax returns until after the October filing deadline passes. But Marylanders do not need to wait until the results for proof that high taxes are bad for everyone in the state.
This means legislators must stop relying on raising taxes and their other favorite cure-all, slots, to balance the budget. Estimates for both are way off. Instead, they need to promote pro-growth policies that make Maryland competitive with surrounding states – and because we are in a global economy – other countries.
Rescinding the millionaires’ tax is one piece. But returning the state to its 2006 tax structure should be the first big goal. The alternative is losing the most productive people to other states, luring fewer and fewer of the wealthy seeking to move near Washington, lower tax revenue and a higher tax burden for those who remain.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...ionaires-fleeing-Maryland-taxes-45349682.html
red states rule
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I am going on IRS data that clearly shows that the so called rich are paying MORE in taxes after the Bush tax cut
I know it is hard for liberals to understand that when you cut taxes, tax revenue increases due to increased economic activity
The top 1% earn 22% of the income yet pay nearly 40% of all federal income taxes
Those are the facts
http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html
red states rule
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Given the flea trap you live in (I have see the pictures) it is clear you do not pay much in taxes.
Maybe 2 grand tops
Like most people, since you do not pay much in taxes, you do not give a dan if others have to pay more
maineman
Banned
hey moron.... here's a hint:
you don't know where I live and you don't know what I pay in taxes.
Do you have a job yet, welfare loser?
red states rule
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What me to PM you the picture?
It is far from the grand house you once said you lived in. It looks more like the local animal shelter
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Businesses also flee onerous taxation.. so... there ya go. same thing.
maineman
Banned
What me to PM you the picture?
It is far from the grand house you once said you lived in. It looks more like the local animal shelter
like I said...you don't know where I live, you don't know what my house looks like and you don't know what I pay in taxes.
what "pictures" you may have do not reflect the actual appearance of my home..
and finally....why in the world would you think it would be appropriate to stalk someone on the internet and obtain pictures of their residence?
Doesn't that seem creepy to you? This is an internet discussion site.
weirdo.
red states rule
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like I said...you don't know where I live, you don't know what my house looks like and you don't know what I pay in taxes.
what "pictures" you may have do not reflect the actual appearance of my home..
and finally....why in the world would you think it would be appropriate to stalk someone on the internet and obtain pictures of their residence?
Doesn't that seem creepy to you? This is an internet discussion site.
weirdo.
I do know, and you know I do. I am piointing out your BS thats all
I will PM you the proof if you want
Like most libs, you toss out alot of claims - but sooner or later the facts do catch up to you
maineman
Banned
I have never said anything untrue about my home. the fact that you have taken the time to go and find what you think is a picture of it certainly proves what a pathetic loser you are who seems to have lost the perspective that we are talking on an internet discussion board... and that bringing real life into it is just plain creepy.
pathetic unemployed loser.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
LOL Red does and so do I. I've showed you pictures of it and you whined to admin.
maineman
Banned
so .... you admit to being an internet stalker who seeks to become involved in the real world lives of people with whom you disagree on an internet message board?
thanks.
creep.
oh... and my house looks nothing like the photos you posted