The POLL about who you think will win

[FUCK THE POLICE]

i haven't given up on romney. but it is hard to ignore his flaws and hard to ignore that obama is a great campaigner. if the economy turns around, romney isn't going to have much to criticize obama on.

Obama is a good campaigner. But he also had a significant fundraising advantage last time. Obama may possibly exceed Romney when it comes to official campaign donations, but I doubt he's going to come close to his SuperPAC cash. It's also questionable whether or not the factors that worked in his favor when he was trying to overturn an administration ("Change!") can be successfully rerouted towards supporting an existing administration ("Forward!").

 

[Banned]

vote USC

let us see who wins

heck...i voted for obama

I am planning on voting for Jon Stewart.
Just to show I voted but did not like either choice.

 

[Banned]

I do not necessarly agree with this!

Yes, obviously the best man is not even running.

 

[Banned]

I am planning on voting for Jon Stewart.
Just to show I voted but did not like either choice.

why did you groan this post Dude?

Am I not allowed to chose neither side?

Are you against one voting their concience?

Man up and explain, groaner man.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Obama is a good campaigner. But he also had a significant fundraising advantage last time. Obama may possibly exceed Romney when it comes to official campaign donations, but I doubt he's going to come close to his SuperPAC cash. It's also questionable whether or not the factors that worked in his favor when he was trying to overturn an administration ("Change!") can be successfully rerouted towards supporting an existing administration ("Forward!").

good points. but i don't see your points actually coming to fruition. obama will raise tons of cash and use PACs as well. he did last time.

 

[The Dude]

Obuma gives handouts that Romney can't match!

 

[Banned]

The Dud groaned at every opost I made in this thread but will not explain why.

I personaly think it is just because he is an ass.

 

[leaningright]

I am planning on voting for Jon Stewart.
Just to show I voted but did not like either choice.

Kind of like how I voted last time.

 

[Liberty]

Our slave masters anointed one will win.

Just like always.

 

[Jarod]

Kind of like how I voted last time.

What do you dislike about Romney?

 

[leaningright]

What do you dislike about Romney?

Besides feeling that he is out of touch with normal (financially) Americans, having some reservations on how he caved with Romney-care, and seeing him as the "Al Gore" of the republican party, I think he is a good guy. Just not sure he can win a nation wide election. I have stated that I will vote for him this time though it won't make any difference. The most riveting thing in this election for me is seeing if Obama carries a single county in OK.

 

[Granule]

The Dud groaned at every opost I made in this thread but will not explain why.

I personaly think it is just because he is an ass.

I think it's more because of your affinity for the disruptive influences of mass squatting.

 

[Rationalist]

If you're convincing people to vote, why is it for someone who isn't Gary Johnson?

Because Gary Johnson cannot win.

Roms isn't the perfect candidate, but he is vastly superior to Obama.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

I always go with the consensus, because I refuse to make decisions on things like these. The current consensus of the markets, polling trends, and most experts is that Obama will win. However, the consensus isn't very reliable.

Actually intrade is and they favor Obama at 53.8%.

Here's the hurdle I see for Romeny. If he tries to make this a referendum on Obama's record he'll lose. Maybe not by much but he'll lose. Independents are key to his success and they are more concerned that Romney won't be another Bush than they are on how he measures up to Obama. Romney will have to convince independents that he's not a ideological fuck up like Bush. That will be hard to do with out alienating the wing nut faction of the party. So in this respect Romney will not only be running against Obama but will be running against Bush. Obama will definately try to paint Romney as another Bush. If Obama succeeds in doing so, it's game over.

Romney also needs a clear message and a plan (say a 100 day plan) that is specific as to what he will do and how he will do it and how it will improve this nation. This message will have to be clear, concise and Romney, unlike McCain, will have to be disciplined and stay on message. Right now Romney really doesnt' have one. That's a big advantage for Obama for right now but I have a sneaky hunch that won't last and Romney will do well in developing his message.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

good points. but i don't see your points actually coming to fruition. obama will raise tons of cash and use PACs as well. he did last time.

True. Both parties are corporate bitches. They just bend over to different corporations.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

What do you dislike about Romney?

I don't like the fact that he's a patrician from old money. I think it's become blindingly obvious that Romney can't relate to what it is like to be working class and to struggle and that he's hardly likely to sympathize with working class people. The problem I have with most patricians is this mentality of "What is good for us is what is good for everyone.". I don't trust them in that respect.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

Actually intrade is and they favor Obama at 53.8%.

Here's the hurdle I see for Romeny. If he tries to make this a referendum on Obama's record he'll lose. Maybe not by much but he'll lose. Independents are key to his success and they are more concerned that Romney won't be another Bush than they are on how he measures up to Obama.

The above goes against everything the polls are suggesting independents care about. If the election is on Obama's record (assuming the economy does not improve further from here) Obama will lose the independents. It won't even be close. To pretend they are worried that Romney might be like Bush is absurd.

Romney will have to convince independents that he's not a ideological fuck up like Bush.

Or he can convince independents he is not an ideological fuck up like Obama.

That will be hard to do with out alienating the wing nut faction of the party. So in this respect Romney will not only be running against Obama but will be running against Bush. Obama will definately try to paint Romney as another Bush. If Obama succeeds in doing so, it's game over.

Obama is another Bush. Spend happy, deficit ignoring, war mongering, ineffective bumbling idiot.

Romney also needs a clear message and a plan (say a 100 day plan) that is specific as to what he will do and how he will do it and how it will improve this nation.

Let me guess... Obama won't need a clear message and a plan that is specific as to what he will do and how he will do it? We have seen in the past several years that he never does any such thing. Yet now you proclaim Romney must do so?

This message will have to be clear, concise and Romney, unlike McCain, will have to be disciplined and stay on message. Right now Romney really doesnt' have one. That's a big advantage for Obama for right now but I have a sneaky hunch that won't last and Romney will do well in developing his message.

How is it a big advantage for Obama who also doesn't have anything evenly remotely resembling a plan?

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

I don't like the fact that he's a patrician from old money. I think it's become blindingly obvious that Romney can't relate to what it is like to be working class and to struggle and that he's hardly likely to sympathize with working class people. The problem I have with most patricians is this mentality of "What is good for us is what is good for everyone.". I don't trust them in that respect.

LMAO... 'from old money'??? Are you fucking kidding? George Romney grew up in poverty and made something of himself. One generation of money is hardly 'old money'. You ass clown. Just a little note... most 'old money' families are in the ever Democratic strongholds in the northeast... and they don't tend to be Reps.

 

[Rationalist]

Actually intrade is and they favor Obama at 53.8%.

Yes...but that figure has dropped dramatically over the past few months.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

LMAO... 'from old money'??? Are you fucking kidding? George Romney grew up in poverty and made something of himself. One generation of money is hardly 'old money'. You ass clown. Just a little note... most 'old money' families are in the ever Democratic strongholds in the northeast... and they don't tend to be Reps.

You mean like the Gores? I don't vote for them either....well unless their running against a complete idiot like Bush.