The politicization of face masks

Because it is expensive. But when there are over 500,000 more deaths than expected it is obviously still covid related and a serious problem.
Covid19 does not kill.
Why does the right always deny reality:
Define 'reality'.
Covid is a hoax and not a serious as people pretend and the virus is dangerous
The need for the panic, the lockdowns, the masks, etc. is the hoax. Covid19 does not kill.
Obama was not born in the U. S.
Debatable, and now irrelevant.
There is no global warming
Define 'global warming'. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
The election was fraudulent and Trump actually won
The election faulted due to election fraud by Democrats. No one won. There was no election.
Trump won the popular vote in 2016 but for the 2 million votes by illegal immigrants
The President is not elected by popular vote.
The January 6th attack was not Trump supporters and if it was they were peaceful
What attack?
 
True, you could be asymptomatic.

But do you really want to run that risk? Think of how many libs you won't be able to own if you've got a ventilator shoved down your throat?

And you're an old fuck, so you're more at risk than others.

Covid19 does not kill.
 
I don't care about winning hearts and minds...at this point, I want as many of you stupid motherfuckers to catch COVID and die as possible.

That's why I've been supportive of your misinformation efforts because I know the only people who are listening to you are the dumb fucking morons I want to see suffer and die.

And they will...and when they do, I'll just L-O-L.

you're a bad person.
 
More specifically, there is a wide gulf between the scientific evidence on mitigation measures—the so-called “non-pharmaceutical interventions” or NPIs—and the way this evidence has been described. Back in Spring 2020, when these mitigation measures began to be imposed, I did my own mini-review of the scientific literature on the effectiveness of NPIs on the spread of infectious diseases, particularly respiratory viruses. I focused on the handful of studies that featured randomized controlled trials or quasi-natural experiments in a real-world setting. The consensus of this pre-Covid literature is that masks, frequent hand-washing and hand-sanitizing, distancing, and the like had either very small effects or no effect on disease severity or spread. This was at the time that shops, restaurants, schools, and offices were beginning to require masks and social distancing, installing plastic barriers and HEPA filters, adding extra cleaning and sanitizing, and other interventions – presumably on the basis of hard, scientific evidence. But that evidence was lacking. I didn’t see it until later but Slate Star Codex published a review of mask studies that covered many of the same papers and reached the same conclusions I did.

What about now, more than a year into the Covid-19 pandemic? Surprisingly, most of the evidence offered by government agencies is based on computer or lab simulations of the movement of particles (or anecdotes). The most highly touted field studies are observational (i.e., there are no treatment and control groups, making it impossible to assign causality). Given that the scientific (and social-scientific) establishment has maintained for decades that randomized-controlled trials are the “gold standard” for assigning causality, the absence of RCT evidence on masks and other NPIs is surprising. Here is a recent review of what we know. The majority of the evidence is that masks, distancing, plastic barriers, and the like have played at best a very small role, and most likely no role, in mitigating the spread of Covid-19.

The evidence is almost entirely at odds with the message presented to the public.

https://mises.org/power-market/scientific-credibility-and-file-drawer-problem
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The writer mentions something I noticed some time ago when I went searching for studies on masks: all the studies that supported mask mandates were post 2020. I posted a meta-analysis done by some oral surgeons done in 2015 that concluded face masks couldn’t be shown to have statistically significant effect on the spread of respiratory viruses.

And, in fact, *this was Fauci’s initial February 2020 position* on masks as revealed in one of his emails that was made public.

How did this happen?
 
that's why they exonerated trump.

they were so implicated the establishment had to just let it go.

#winning
#tigerblood

The shut it down with some dangling unindicted coconspirators. And they wonder why there so many conspiracy theories.

How about stop acting so damned suspicious, huh? Why don’t they try that out?
 
More specifically, there is a wide gulf between the scientific evidence on mitigation measures—the so-called “non-pharmaceutical interventions” or NPIs—and the way this evidence has been described. Back in Spring 2020, when these mitigation measures began to be imposed, I did my own mini-review of the scientific literature on the effectiveness of NPIs on the spread of infectious diseases, particularly respiratory viruses. I focused on the handful of studies that featured randomized controlled trials or quasi-natural experiments in a real-world setting. The consensus of this pre-Covid literature is that masks, frequent hand-washing and hand-sanitizing, distancing, and the like had either very small effects or no effect on disease severity or spread. This was at the time that shops, restaurants, schools, and offices were beginning to require masks and social distancing, installing plastic barriers and HEPA filters, adding extra cleaning and sanitizing, and other interventions – presumably on the basis of hard, scientific evidence. But that evidence was lacking. I didn’t see it until later but Slate Star Codex published a review of mask studies that covered many of the same papers and reached the same conclusions I did.

What about now, more than a year into the Covid-19 pandemic? Surprisingly, most of the evidence offered by government agencies is based on computer or lab simulations of the movement of particles (or anecdotes). The most highly touted field studies are observational (i.e., there are no treatment and control groups, making it impossible to assign causality). Given that the scientific (and social-scientific) establishment has maintained for decades that randomized-controlled trials are the “gold standard” for assigning causality, the absence of RCT evidence on masks and other NPIs is surprising. Here is a recent review of what we know. The majority of the evidence is that masks, distancing, plastic barriers, and the like have played at best a very small role, and most likely no role, in mitigating the spread of Covid-19.

The evidence is almost entirely at odds with the message presented to the public.

https://mises.org/power-market/scientific-credibility-and-file-drawer-problem
___________

The writer mentions something I noticed some time ago when I went searching for studies on masks: all the studies that supported mask mandates were post 2020. I posted a meta-analysis done by some oral surgeons done in 2015 that concluded face masks couldn’t be shown to have statistically significant effect on the spread of respiratory viruses.

And, in fact, *this was Fauci’s initial February 2020 position* on masks as revealed in one of his emails that was made public.

How did this happen?

so what you're saying is the mainstream media and establishment are totalitarian nazi globalist deep state lie-bag gay dudes.
:wink:
 
The shut it down with some dangling unindicted coconspirators. And they wonder why there so many conspiracy theories.

How about stop acting so damned suspicious, huh? Why don’t they try that out?

yes. quit doing fucking false flags and people will stop accusing you of it!

imagine that.
 
When COVID first started spreading in China, and we saw everyone there wearing masks, I thought, "Of course - that makes sense. It's a respiratory virus. Wear masks to stop the spread."

Then Trump & his braindead supporters got ahold of it. Suddenly, masks were "slavery."

It has been surreal and unreal. Yes, masks have been politicized. And history will not be kind.
 
More specifically, there is a wide gulf between the scientific evidence on mitigation measures—the so-called “non-pharmaceutical interventions” or NPIs—and the way this evidence has been described. Back in Spring 2020, when these mitigation measures began to be imposed, I did my own mini-review of the scientific literature on the effectiveness of NPIs on the spread of infectious diseases, particularly respiratory viruses. I focused on the handful of studies that featured randomized controlled trials or quasi-natural experiments in a real-world setting. The consensus of this pre-Covid literature is that masks, frequent hand-washing and hand-sanitizing, distancing, and the like had either very small effects or no effect on disease severity or spread. This was at the time that shops, restaurants, schools, and offices were beginning to require masks and social distancing, installing plastic barriers and HEPA filters, adding extra cleaning and sanitizing, and other interventions – presumably on the basis of hard, scientific evidence. But that evidence was lacking. I didn’t see it until later but Slate Star Codex published a review of mask studies that covered many of the same papers and reached the same conclusions I did.

What about now, more than a year into the Covid-19 pandemic? Surprisingly, most of the evidence offered by government agencies is based on computer or lab simulations of the movement of particles (or anecdotes). The most highly touted field studies are observational (i.e., there are no treatment and control groups, making it impossible to assign causality). Given that the scientific (and social-scientific) establishment has maintained for decades that randomized-controlled trials are the “gold standard” for assigning causality, the absence of RCT evidence on masks and other NPIs is surprising. Here is a recent review of what we know. The majority of the evidence is that masks, distancing, plastic barriers, and the like have played at best a very small role, and most likely no role, in mitigating the spread of Covid-19.

The evidence is almost entirely at odds with the message presented to the public.

https://mises.org/power-market/scientific-credibility-and-file-drawer-problem
___________

The writer mentions something I noticed some time ago when I went searching for studies on masks: all the studies that supported mask mandates were post 2020. I posted a meta-analysis done by some oral surgeons done in 2015 that concluded face masks couldn’t be shown to have statistically significant effect on the spread of respiratory viruses.

And, in fact, *this was Fauci’s initial February 2020 position* on masks as revealed in one of his emails that was made public.

How did this happen?

More medical advice from the hillbilly hospital housekeeper who said 61 cases to zero ? :laugh:
 
When COVID first started spreading in China, and we saw everyone there wearing masks, I thought, "Of course - that makes sense. It's a respiratory virus. Wear masks to stop the spread."

Then Trump & his braindead supporters got ahold of it. Suddenly, masks were "slavery."

It has been surreal and unreal. Yes, masks have been politicized. And history will not be kind.

Masks make intuitive sense.

But the history of science is littered with ideas that made intuitive sense but ended up in the trash bin.
 
Masks make intuitive sense.

But the history of science is littered with ideas that made intuitive sense but ended up in the trash bin.

Why are you SO against them? Chances are excellent that they work - at least in terms of significantly lowering the distance respiratory droplets can travel, and slowing the spread.

Why have you all chosen masks as the lightning rod? It's literally nothing to wear one in certain places. It's such a non-issue.

A year from now, are we gonna get another "yeah, I was wrong on that one. But that was so long ago...."
 
Well, I guess if you're going up to people and asking them to cough in your eye, then I guess you could catch COVID that way.

Is that what you're doing; going up to people and having them cough in your eye?
liar. even calling you out on your lies doesnt stop your pathology. I gave you the link people rub their eyes you dumbass
 
More specifically, there is a wide gulf between the scientific evidence on mitigation measures—the so-called “non-pharmaceutical interventions” or NPIs—and the way this evidence has been described. Back in Spring 2020, when these mitigation measures began to be imposed, I did my own mini-review of the scientific literature on the effectiveness of NPIs on the spread of infectious diseases, particularly respiratory viruses. I focused on the handful of studies that featured randomized controlled trials or quasi-natural experiments in a real-world setting. The consensus of this pre-Covid literature is that masks, frequent hand-washing and hand-sanitizing, distancing, and the like had either very small effects or no effect on disease severity or spread. This was at the time that shops, restaurants, schools, and offices were beginning to require masks and social distancing, installing plastic barriers and HEPA filters, adding extra cleaning and sanitizing, and other interventions – presumably on the basis of hard, scientific evidence. But that evidence was lacking. I didn’t see it until later but Slate Star Codex published a review of mask studies that covered many of the same papers and reached the same conclusions I did.

What about now, more than a year into the Covid-19 pandemic? Surprisingly, most of the evidence offered by government agencies is based on computer or lab simulations of the movement of particles (or anecdotes). The most highly touted field studies are observational (i.e., there are no treatment and control groups, making it impossible to assign causality). Given that the scientific (and social-scientific) establishment has maintained for decades that randomized-controlled trials are the “gold standard” for assigning causality, the absence of RCT evidence on masks and other NPIs is surprising. Here is a recent review of what we know. The majority of the evidence is that masks, distancing, plastic barriers, and the like have played at best a very small role, and most likely no role, in mitigating the spread of Covid-19.

The evidence is almost entirely at odds with the message presented to the public.

https://mises.org/power-market/scientific-credibility-and-file-drawer-problem
___________

The writer mentions something I noticed some time ago when I went searching for studies on masks: all the studies that supported mask mandates were post 2020. I posted a meta-analysis done by some oral surgeons done in 2015 that concluded face masks couldn’t be shown to have statistically significant effect on the spread of respiratory viruses.

And, in fact, *this was Fauci’s initial February 2020 position* on masks as revealed in one of his emails that was made public.

How did this happen?

total bullshit.
 
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