The Physical Impossibility of Renewable Energy Meeting the Paris Accord Goals

[Sailor]

Approx 6 hours. What good is tide in the open ocean? The only place you could harness one is where tides cause currents through narrow passages. Sure, you could do that, but there aren't that many sites, and you still have to solidly anchor the machine (expensive). Then of course is the difficulty with maintenance in corrosive sea water, and the difficult of servicing such a machine (the tides don't stop for maintenance!).

Shut the fuck up. You know nothing about this at all.

 

[anonymoose]

Okay...show me a current in the open ocean caused by tides.

Are you really that uneducated on this subject? Do me a favor, learn at least a little about what you are talking about before talking to me about it. What the hell do you think causes currents? Fucking idiot.

Maybe he is talking about the Gulf Stream, e.g.? Of course currents are caused by tides in inlets.

 

[Sailor]

Maybe he is talking about the Gulf Stream, e.g.? Of course currents are caused by tides in inlets.

He is just googling shit. Trying to act like he knows this. And failing.

 

[Into the Night]

That is one aspect of it. Thermohaline circulation. And wind. And of course, ebbing and flowing of worldwide tides.

Tides do not cause currents in open ocean. Good thing, too. Oceans wouldn't be navigable if they did!

Like I said before, learn something before speaking to me about this.

I will post to you anytime I want. You are not the king. It is YOU that is denying physics here.

 

[Into the Night]

Shut the fuck up. You know nothing about this at all.

You don't get to tell people to shut the fuck up. You are not the king. It is YOU that is denying physics here.

 

[Into the Night]

Maybe he is talking about the Gulf Stream, e.g.? Of course currents are caused by tides in inlets.

In inlets, yes. However, we are talking about open ocean. The Gulf Stream is caused by temperature differences and prevailing winds (also caused by temperature differences).

 

[Sailor]

Tides do not cause currents in open ocean. Good thing, too. Oceans wouldn't be navigable if they did!

I will post to you anytime I want. You are not the king. It is YOU that is denying physics here.

Once again. Learn something. Or just pipe down. You are sounding like Domer now. Google things your know nothing about then try to present them as fact.

 

[Sailor]

You don't get to tell people to shut the fuck up. You are not the king. It is YOU that is denying physics here.

I do get to tell dumbfucks like yourself to shut the fuck up. Uneducated fools like yourself who google shit and try to pass it off as fact get told: Shut the fuck up. They also get told: Get an education.

Once again, when you learn something about this, come on back. Until then. Shut the fuck up.

 

[Into the Night]

He is just googling shit. Trying to act like he knows this. And failing.

No, I don't depend on Google, dude. I already know the physics of it.

All tides do in open ocean is cause sea level in that region of ocean to rise and fall a bit. It is caused by the unbalanced gravity resulting from the Moon and Earth orbiting around an offset barycenter, and the Earth and the Sun orbiting around an offset barycenter.
The water is literally expanding and contracting in place (the land does the same thing, but not as pronounced). No current results from this. Since high tide to low tide is in the space of only six hours, your theory would result in violent currents constantly flowing back and forth across the ocean.

They aren't there.

Currents in oceans are the result of temperature differences only.

 

[Into the Night]

Once again. Learn something. Or just pipe down. You are sounding like Domer now. Google things your know nothing about then try to present them as fact.

YALIFNAP. False authority fallacy. Redefinition fallacy (fact<->proof).

 

[Into the Night]

I do get to tell dumbfucks like yourself to shut the fuck up.

No, you don't. You are not the king.

Uneducated fools like yourself

Inversion fallacy.

who google shit

I don't need Google like you do. Inversion fallacy.

and try to pass it off as fact

Redefinition fallacy (fact<->proof | Universal Truth)

get told: Shut the fuck up.

Blow it out your left ear.

They also get told: Get an education.

Have one, thanks.

Once again, when you learn something about this, come on back. Until then. Shut the fuck up.

Blow it out your left ear. You can't order people around, dumbass.

 

[Sailor]

No, you don't. You are not the king.

Inversion fallacy.

I don't need Google like you do. Inversion fallacy.

Redefinition fallacy (fact<->proof | Universal Truth)

Blow it out your left ear.

Have one, thanks.

Blow it out your left ear. You can't order people around, dumbass.

Quite the meltdown. Because you are completely wrong. An idiot in fact. As expected, it is all you have.

 

[Sailor]

No, I don't depend on Google, dude. I already know the physics of it.

All tides do in open ocean is cause sea level in that region of ocean to rise and fall a bit. It is caused by the unbalanced gravity resulting from the Moon and Earth orbiting around an offset barycenter, and the Earth and the Sun orbiting around an offset barycenter.
The water is literally expanding and contracting in place (the land does the same thing, but not as pronounced). No current results from this. Since high tide to low tide is in the space of only six hours, your theory would result in violent currents constantly flowing back and forth across the ocean.

They aren't there.

Currents in oceans are the result of temperature differences only.

I was hoping you were going to be that stupid. And sure enough you provided "Mr. Physics". Do you honestly think that tides are regional and not global? Are you really that fucking stupid? Do you think the sun and the moon selectively pick only an area at a time to cause tides? Once again, not globally? Seriously. Shut the fuck up. The only "physics" you know are what you google. The sad thing is you have no idea what it means.
to have tides?

 

[Sailor]

Fell silent real quickly there Into the Night. Hmmmm. Well "Mr. Physics", hope your ass does not hurt too much. Here is a hint for you though in the future. Never argue with a Master Mariner about anything to do with the oceans. You fucking landlubbing puke.

 

[cancel2 2022]

4th gen. nuclear is just around the corner, unlike your pie in the sky bullshit. So the Chinese want to use microwaves you say! What frequency band(s) are they proposing to use, will the radiation be ionising, are we talking about geo-stationary orbits?

I think it could well happen in the future but it would require far less expensive delivery systems. There is also the issues of what frequencies do you use, that won't interfere with existing microwave based systems like cellphones etc. A huge issue as well is maintenance and replacement, space is an extremely harsh environment and equipment would wear out far quicker than on Earth.

 

[Into the Night]

Quite the meltdown. Because you are completely wrong. An idiot in fact. As expected, it is all you have.

Psychoquackery. Bulverism fallacy. Insult fallacy. Argument of the stone fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

I was hoping you were going to be that stupid. And sure enough you provided "Mr. Physics". Do you honestly think that tides are regional and not global? Are you really that fucking stupid? Do you think the sun and the moon selectively pick only an area at a time to cause tides? Once again, not globally? Seriously. Shut the fuck up. The only "physics" you know are what you google. The sad thing is you have no idea what it means.
to have tides?

They are regional. A high tide only covers two regions, on opposite sides of the Earth. A low tide covers only two regions, on opposite sides of the Earth. There is no such thing as a 'global' tide.

 

[Into the Night]

Fell silent real quickly there Into the Night. Hmmmm. Well "Mr. Physics", hope your ass does not hurt too much. Here is a hint for you though in the future. Never argue with a Master Mariner about anything to do with the oceans. You fucking landlubbing puke.

No, that would be you. Inversion fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

I think it could well happen in the future but it would require far less expensive delivery systems. There is also the issues of what frequencies do you use, that won't interfere with existing microwave based systems like cellphones etc. A huge issue as well is maintenance and replacement, space is an extremely harsh environment and equipment would wear out far quicker than on Earth.

Light isn't electrons, protons, or neutrons. It is not ionizing until you get up into X rays and gamma rays. Microwaves are not ionizing.

The big problem if one decides to beam power to Earth using microwaves is simply one of the EM wave affect of any nearby electronics. Such a strong radio wave will tend to act like an EM pulse from a nuclear detonation. Like a microwave oven, a wandering beam will cook anything it touches.

Communications use low power microwaves on very tight beams and keep those beams above the normal level people or animals are located. I have known some microwave comm techs cooking their lunches by simply holding them in front of the transmitting dish on a stick.
Solar power transmission by microwaves would be far more dangerous.

 

[Sailor]

They are regional. A high tide only covers two regions, on opposite sides of the Earth. A low tide covers only two regions, on opposite sides of the Earth. There is no such thing as a 'global' tide.

In other words, globally. Once again you dumb fuck, shut the fuck up. Take your fake knowledge and try it on Democrats.