the Penny lunacy.

[ExpressLane]

"That he didn't attack anyone only means he was stopped before he could, given his history of violent crimes."

"Exactly."

Really, TOP?

Is this the level of logic that we're going to accept?
It wouldn't work well on the SAT exams, would it?

Lethal force is justified based on the assumption that the victim was about to commit a crime?
Interesting concept.

You can't imagine the number of people I would have liked to have clocked on the assumption that they were going to annoy me.
My lack of a felony record must mean that I somehow suppressed the urge.
Such wasted frustration, then.

Texas law
Sec. 9.31. SELF-DEFENSE. (a) Except as provided in Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful force. The actor's belief that the force was immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed to be reasonable if the actor:

 

[ExpressLane]

Who, the former Marine? If I had been a male trained in war stuff like he was, I would have helped to try to subdue him too. As myself, I would have used my pepper spray on him.

You would have likely ignored his verbal assault on other passengers.

 

[ExpressLane]

As a Marine, he was trained in hand to hand combat including lethal chokeholds to subdue an enemy. As an accused defendant, he has the same right to both self defense and to a fair trial as everyone else. Personally I don't think that he intended to cause the disturbed man's death, but only to subdue him till authorities could take him into custody. As Phan said, let's see what the jury says.

This should have gone to a Grand Jury.

 

[Jarod]

This should have gone to a Grand Jury.

1) you haven’t seen the video, but Bragg has.
2) as you know, a GJ does whatever the prosecutor tells it to do.

 

[Yakuda]

1) you haven’t seen the video, but Bragg has.
2) as you know, a GJ does whatever the prosecutor tells it to do.

Finally got one right. The GJ could indict a ham sandwich

 

[Phantasmal]

you think because he's a Marine, he shouldn't be given the same leeway for self defense as other civilians or even law enforcement?

Lol, no, I am saying the training he received and the hold he was taught, he knew the purpose and use of the hold. He was aware of what he was doing, especially when Neely went limp and defecated himself.

 

[Phantasmal]

As a Marine, he was trained in hand to hand combat including lethal chokeholds to subdue an enemy. As an accused defendant, he has the same right to both self defense and to a fair trial as everyone else. Personally I don't think that he intended to cause the disturbed man's death, but only to subdue him till authorities could take him into custody. As Phan said, let's see what the jury says.

I didn’t realize Neely had defecated himself, that adds another layer.

 

[Phantasmal]

This seems to be the most likely scenario.

Did he try to resuscitate him? I have not heard if anyone offered aid after they realized he was not moving?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

You would have likely ignored his verbal assault on other passengers.

Like most sane, law-abiding citizens, I do not physically attack someone for mere verbal stuff. This is why, unlike yourself, I am not a Reichwing Trumpanzee.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Did he try to resuscitate him? I have not heard if n’t one offered aid after they realized he was not moving?

I did see video where someone was doing CPR on him but don't know if it was a bystander civilian or what.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I didn’t realize Neely had defecated himself, that adds another layer.

That's common after death. Or was this while he was still alive?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Lol, no, I am saying the training he received and the hold he was taught, he knew the purpose and use of the hold. He was aware of what he was doing, especially when Neely went limp and defecated himself.

That answers that question. At that point he should have let go.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Like most sane, law-abiding citizens, I do not physically attack someone for mere verbal stuff. This is why, unlike yourself, I am not a Reichwing Trumpanzee.

while there is indeed a 'fine line' between verbal bluster and verbal threats, waiting until you, or anyone else, is ACTUALLY assaulted is moronic, at best. I already posted a link to a NYC subway attack where a guy was all 'bluster' until he wasn't.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

"That he didn't attack anyone only means he was stopped before he could, given his history of violent crimes."

"Exactly."

Really, TOP?

Is this the level of logic that we're going to accept?
It wouldn't work well on the SAT exams, would it?

Lethal force is justified based on the assumption that the victim was about to commit a crime?
Interesting concept.

You can't imagine the number of people I would have liked to have clocked on the assumption that they were going to annoy me.
My lack of a felony record must mean that I somehow suppressed the urge.
Such wasted frustration, then.

Republicans do not care about consequences- period.

Certainly not from their own actions or inactions- but often times not even the consequences of the actions of anyone else either- if they can fit the consequences into one of their RACIST narratives somehow.

Here, they are so used to taking the side of people that kill minorities, they just can't show even the slightest restraint not to do so- even when a gun was not used in the killing.

Anyone who kills a minority is always a hero to them- NO MATTER WHAT! All they see is he killed their enemy and someone they hate.

 

[Phantasmal]

That's common after death. Or was this while he was still alive?

I don’t know, he was just warned by another passenger that he should release his hold because Neely wasn’t moving and had defecated.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Republicans do not care about consequences- period.

Certainly not from their own actions or inactions- but often times not even the consequences of the actions of anyone else either- if they can fit the consequences into one of their RACIST narratives somehow.

Here, they are so used to taking the side of people that kill minorities, they just can't show even the slightest restraint not to do so- even when a gun was not used in the killing.

Anyone who kills a minority is always a hero to them- NO MATTER WHAT! All they see is he killed their enemy and someone they hate.

you are extremely confused and are talking about Democrats.

 

[Jarod]

Did he try to resuscitate him? I have not heard if anyone offered aid after they realized he was not moving?

I dont know.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I don’t know, he was just warned by another passenger that he should release his hold because Neely wasn’t moving and had defecated.

the pathetic thing about the politics of issues like this are that we live in a world where most of you give a wide latitude and leeway to 'highly trained' government agents to make mistakes, but expect an untrained civilian to act with the utmost professionalism and expert handling of liquid events.........

 

[Phantasmal]

the pathetic thing about the politics of issues like this are that we live in a world where most of you give a wide latitude and leeway to 'highly trained' government agents to make mistakes, but expect an untrained civilian to act with the utmost professionalism and expert handling of liquid events.........

No, I do not, I expect much more from a highly trained government agent, so you’re not addressing me.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

you are extremely confused and are talking about Democrats.

DumberThanMost thinks his denying the obvious and use of smoke and mirrors changes things in his favor.

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