The "other side" is not dumb

cawacko said:
When we were talking about liberals and conservatives I assumed we were talking about America.
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It's might be a bit harder in America due to our media, but I am sure there are many happy poor people, who don't see themselves as poor. There really are people who don't care about money or material possessions.
 
Rana said:
It's might be a bit harder in America due to our media, but I am sure there are many happy poor people, who don't see themselves as poor. There really are people who don't care about money or material possessions.
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Who are these people? Happy smart people living in the projects for instance because they enjoy it?

Not everyone who is poor is unhappy of course but there's a reason most people move out of low income high crime areas when they have the opportunity.
 
cawacko said:
Who are these people? Happy smart people living in the projects for instance because they enjoy it?

Not everyone who is poor is unhappy of course but there's a reason most people move out of low income high crime areas when they have the opportunity.
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I was thinking of my home state, Kansas and Alaska, most people in rural areas don't have a lot of money, they are the working poor and they are happy. Many don't see themselves as poor.
 
Rana said:
I was thinking of my home state, Kansas and Alaska, most people in rural areas don't have a lot of money, they are the working poor and they are happy. Many don't see themselves as poor.
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I agree with this, Rana. We have a few families whose wives work as teacher's aides or husbands work as custodians who might make $20,000 in a year. My brother did it for years and raised a family of six kids...none of whom were his. I considered them poor but they were happy and continue to be a close knit family.

I also understand Cawacko thinking about the poor being in the projects or inner cities too. It is something I had to learn about as a young adult. When I thought about "the poor" I thought about folks like my brother and his family. Sometimes it is all in our perspective.
 
leaningright said:
I agree with this, Rana. We have a few families whose wives work as teacher's aides or husbands work as custodians who might make $20,000 in a year. My brother did it for years and raised a family of six kids...none of whom were his. I considered them poor but they were happy and continue to be a close knit family.

I also understand Cawacko thinking about the poor being in the projects or inner cities too. It is something I had to learn about as a young adult. When I thought about "the poor" I thought about folks like my brother and his family. Sometimes it is all in our perspective.
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I just don't buy into this liberals are smart and conservatives are dumb sentiments. There is no question that are some very smart liberals. Most of the brightest academics are liberal for instance. But then you have the poorest areas of the country that vote almost exclusively liberal and you're telling me they're smarter than everyone else?
 
Rune said:
99.7% of the world.
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You mean because you've managed to attain the delicate balance between being a socialist while opposing big government?

How is that not proof of your overt stupidity, not intelligence?
 
cawacko said:
I just don't buy into this liberals are smart and conservatives are dumb sentiments. There is no question that are some very smart liberals. Most of the brightest academics are liberal for instance. But then you have the poorest areas of the country that vote almost exclusively liberal and you're telling me they're smarter than everyone else?
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I know what you mean. The fastest way to raise my temper-ature is for someone to think they are smarter than me and then interject that into a conversation just because I am conservative.

On the flip side I get riled when I hear things like "those who can, do and those who can't teach."

I am a person who can get equally angry at either side. :)
 
leaningright said:
I know what you mean. The fastest way to raise my temper-ature is for someone to think they are smarter than me and then interject that into a conversation just because I am conservative.

On the flip side I get riled when I hear things like "those who can, do and those who can't teach."

I am a person who can get equally angry at either side. :)
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Haha, I like that second to last sentence. :)

However I generally think of it in terms of college professors who couldn't cut it in the business world. (I say that partially tounge in cheek of course). I also have a father who earned tenure as a graduate school professor of economics and finance who eventually got into business so it's an inter family joke. :)
 
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