The most hilarious part? Trump made mishandling government docs a felony in 2018

Shoresy said:
Doesn't apply to the POTUS, he is the final say on classification status.

Chuck Rosenberg:

It might, but here's why I don't think it will in the end make a difference, Geoff.

The president of the United States, any president, is the primary consumer of intelligence information. He is the ultimate customer. He also has the authority to classify and declassify documents. So, even if documents were found that are classified, it would be very difficult, exceedingly difficult, for a federal prosecutor to prove that Mr. Trump or any other president didn't just wave their hand over the documents and say, I now declassify you.

In order to prove a criminal case of mishandling or retaining classified information, you would also have to essentially prove a negative, that that didn't happen, that the documents were properly classified, and that President Trump took the documents in a classified condition, he mishandled them, and retained them.

That's a very difficult criminal case, given that the president has ultimate classification and declassification authority.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-trump-may-have-violated-the-presidential-records-act
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Dumbass, he didn't declassify them. That's the fucking problem. Go back to something you know, bogan, like fucking dingoes or blowing wallabies.
 
Yakuda said:
And I have no reason to doubt you are in Atlanta but I have no way to know it's accurate either.
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Exactly, because it's inconsequential to the arguments I'm making...I don't need to rely on a crutch like a personal anecdote clouded by inherent bias. I can just make an argument and use my sources without putting myself into the argument.

That's the major difference between myself and most people on JPP; I avoid posting personal anecdotes and given circumstances because I don't see the point of making a debate about myself.
 
LV426 said:
So in order for someone to be an "average American" they must have ______ education and _____ wage, and that's it?

So what are the "______", then?
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You suggested I wasnt an average American because I didn't vote with the majority for Biden. I'm saying that the census says 88% of Americans have at least a HS diploma or GED and the average American make $94,000 a year. On those two dimensions I'm average. On others probably not.

I don't understand that question.
 
Yakuda said:
What hypocrisy?
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I'm not going to play your HS level 20 questions again, dipshit. The fact remains you support an autocrat overthrowing the US and our Constitution.

The good news is that I doubt you have the spine like some on JPP to go out one day and start murdering blacks, gays and liberals.
 
LV426 said:
Exactly, because it's inconsequential to the arguments I'm making...I don't need to rely on a crutch like a personal anecdote clouded by inherent bias. I can just make an argument and use my sources without putting myself into the argument.

That's the major difference between myself and most people on JPP; I avoid posting personal anecdotes and given circumstances because I don't see the point of making a debate about myself.
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Ok so what? Any post you make with out a source is suspect. That's all.
 
Shoresy said:
Doesn't apply to the POTUS, he is the final say on classification status.
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Well not exactly because in order to declassify something, it has to go through a process and many, many layers...Trump can't just point at something and say it's declassified. That's not how the system works.

And when Trump committed these crimes, he wasn't President.
 
Yakuda said:
You suggested I wasnt an average American because I didn't vote with the majority for Biden.
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Well you're quite literally not the average American if you didn't vote for Biden.


I'm saying that the census says 88% of Americans have at least a HS diploma or GED and the average American make $94,000 a year. On those two dimensions I'm average. On others probably not.
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OK, so you're not an "average American", you're average when it comes to two things.

So who decided that those two things are what can determine who is an average American and who is not?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
I'm not going to play your HS level 20 questions again, dipshit. The fact remains you support an autocrat overthrowing the US and our Constitution.

The good news is that I doubt you have the spine like some on JPP to go out one day and start murdering blacks, gays and liberals.
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So you don't have an actual example of my hypocrisy?
 
LV426 said:
Well you're quite literally not the average American if you didn't vote for Biden.




OK, so you're not an "average American", you're average when it comes to two things.

So who decided that those two things are what can determine who is an average American and who is not?
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I wasn't in the majority that's right but that's not the same as average. And I already said that on any one dimensional scale anyone if us could be consider outside the average.
 
LV426 said:
Well you're quite literally not the average American if you didn't vote for Biden.




OK, so you're not an "average American", you're average when it comes to two things.

So who decided that those two things are what can determine who is an average American and who is not?
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The people who looked at America s.and determined that the average American has at least a HS diploma and makes $94,000 a year. I told you already on any given dimensional scale none of us average.
 
Yakuda said:
I wasn't in the majority that's right but that's not the same as average.
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I'm not so sure about that in the context of democracy.


And I already said that on any one dimensional scale anyone if us could be consider outside the average.
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OK, fair enough...but one question; would that mean that calling yourself an "average American" is sophist?
 
LV426 said:
I'm not so sure about that in the context of democracy.




OK, fair enough...but one question; would that mean that calling yourself an "average American" is sophist?
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Democracy is irrelevant. Majority and average aren't the same thing.
 
LV426 said:
No, it is...I post links and quotes all the time when debating actual topics and subjects.
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If you say so. This is precisely the point. You're making a claim without evidence. You may be right but it's quite reasonable for me to question it given the lack of supporting documentation.
 
Yakuda said:
Democracy is irrelevant. Majority and average aren't the same thing.
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So you think being in the average on two things makes you an average American?

Wouldn't those two things also apply to me, making me an average American too?

So why do you think you can claim the mantle of "average American" when I'm more of an "average American" than you are?
 
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