the Mind boggles at Trump supporters.

noise said:
I'm not interested in moral leadership, or a gee swell guy/gal that can't improve the country.
It's much like realpolitik in the domestic sphere. Get it done.

We have a chance to bust thru with strong growth,and re-negotiate bad trade agreements.
Good paying jobs come with that.

That lasts long after Trump is gone
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"I'm not interested in moral leadership ..." You idiot! What makes you think that YOU are a member or the club that Trump and his ilk want to empower and benefit? My, but you'd have made a swell fascist....and you clearly don't like your mom, wife, sister, daughter much beyond being barefoot, pregnant & bringing you a sandwich after servicing you at beck & call.
 
anatta said:
Bush was a neocon- and it wasn't just Iraq, it was nation building in Afghanistan.
That's why we are stuck there 15 years later.

Obama's foreign policy was incoherent, except his inability to do his "Asian pivot",
and his truculent inability to deal/talk to with Putin
while Russia made new friends and influence in the middle east.
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And just how in hell was Obama to do anything with a hostile Congress majority blocking him at every turn? But hey, you noticed that all the Trump hump guys here are avoiding answering the OP?
 
anatta said:
facts. all that did happen.
If you had a basic clue about Russian expansionism into not just Syria, but Egypt, and Libya, and now Lebanon-
along with international geo-partnership with Iran..

even Turkey is shaky on staying in NATO..Obama was a bum. completely outplayed by Putin.
In fact Obama barely played at al.
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supposition and conjecture that leaves out pertinent details.
 
Getin the ring said:
It's not just opinion, it's all fact.

Obama nearly sank this country into an abyss on the world stage we may have never crawled out of. Our standing in the world became that of Canada, the irrelevance he bestowed upon this once great nation, that when a US President spoke, you had better pay attention was reduced to rubble.
And that was bad for everyone in the world. The free world counts on us. Even with Bush and his Iraq decision at least dictators, bad people that choose to try us knew that in the end Saddam ended up in a dark hole swinging from a neuse, so try us at your own risk.

Trump came in and immediately showed the world what happens when a US president tells you not to use WMD's on civilians. Havn't had a problem with Assad in regard since have we.
And the Korean Rocket Man has stopped testing balistic missles.

liberals can keep whining about all of this small $hit if they'd like. Trump is playing you like the fiddles you are. He's is a master at diversion, the art of the deal.
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Man, will you stfu with this regurgitation of lies & distortions.......documented facts make a fool of you. Now, answer the OP or just go blow smoke up the butt of some fellow Trump chump.
 
Taichiliberal said:
"I'm not interested in moral leadership ..." You idiot! What makes you think that YOU are a member or the club that Trump and his ilk want to empower and benefit? My, but you'd have made a swell fascist.
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I'm well aware of tax reform, trade negotiations under U.S. trade representative Robert Lighthizer, as well as Trump's foreign policies.

I'm also aware of the rollbacks from chocking regs. like WOTUS, and insane EPA limits on ozone. etc.

Considering #NeverTrumps and a bullshit 'Russian collusion' investigation fueled by the Steele dossier
and Deep State's extra-Constitutional assault on aspects of Trumps POTUS - i'm OK where he is so far.

But he needs legislation, and I am for corporate tax reduction along with closing loopholes/deductions.
Doubling the standard deduction means many won't have to file but a "postcard" return

In short: there is no need for you to tell me where i should base my politics.

When you go to "fascists"..you are dog whistling for somebody else benefit -not mine
 
Imperator said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
That's not my question.....if you have a candidate with a documented history of misogynistic attitudes towards women, how do you justify to the women in your life voting for him without coming off as a misogynist yourself?
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well I didn't vote for him, but the answer would be I don't give a shit.

Taichiliberal responds: You don't give a shit about a misogynist in the Oval Office who supports a guy banned from a mall for harassing young girls? WTF is the matter with you? Your mom/wife/sister/daughter is okay with this attitude?
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Policy is more important. It trumps everything.
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His "policy" sucks, my man....its intertwined with is personality. Deal with it.
 
Imperator said:
why are you acting like we were having an ongoing conversation? this thread is 3 days old now.

i did answer your question. im not going to fuck myself over on things that materially affect my life because trump said things that people other than myself that I don't even know deem offensive.
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If time passed is a negative determiner for you, why are you still responding? As for your answer, see my response today to you.
 
Taichiliberal said:
supposition and conjecture that leaves out pertinent details.
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like what?
Stupid Obama sanction on Egypt by Obama when NO ONE IN CONGRESS was calling for it?

It was a massive blunder, and opened the way for Putin to sell weapons and increase trade with Egypt-

Russia to lend Egypt $25 billion to build nuclear power plant
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...on-to-build-nuclear-power-plant-idUSKCN0YA1G5
Egypt and Russia signed an agreement on Nov. 19 for Russia to build Egypt’s first nuclear power plant in Egypt and to extend Egypt a loan to cover the cost of construction.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Put your hands down, sweety. Trump has demonstrated that his personality is intertwined with his policy....that's why he's backing Moore. Got that?
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he's backing Moore for pure power politics. I'm not getting into that tit for tat race, I'm talking about Big Picture politics.

Oh.and lose the sanctimonious typical liberal admonishments.
we got plenty of posters here that do that. i'm not interested
 
NOVA said:
Mueller, Comey, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Lois Lerner[FONT=Graphik Web, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif], James Clapper, Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, John Brennan, Samantha Power, [/FONT][FONT=Graphik Web, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]etc....know anything about these people ?

Probably not....you wouldn't recognize a criminal if we shoved your nose in all their asses.....

All of these characters should be in jail.....[/FONT]
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But yet your dumb ass excuses the entire regime that has been behind Reagan, the Bush Crime family and this current POS in office.

It's like this, dummy....you NEVER find me trying to justify any political wrong doing regardless of the party affiliation....which is why I'm a (true) independent voter....unlike you, who doesn't have the cojones to honestly own up to the POS you support.
 
cawacko said:
The argument has been made on this board the personal behavior of politicians isn't important but how they vote is. So if one believes that Trump's behavior means nothing.
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It's not about belief... as Trump misogynistic background comes to light as he supports the likes of Moore.
 
countryboy said:
Originally
Posted by Taichiliberal
Nope. Now, do you have the intellectual honesty/courage to answer the question?
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Probably the same way you do when you pulled the lever for whatever lib you voted for. Socialism has probably killed more people historically than any other ideology. For a boorish man, Trump has advanced some of the most conservative policies since Reagan. Plus, I don't hyperventilate over all the over exaggerated rhetoric from the left wing propaganda machine like libs do.

Fwiw, I didn't support Trump in the primaries.
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You do realize that all that smoke you just blew only goes up the ass of your fellow intellectual cowards and right wing wonks, right?

It's like this toodles....Trump supports the likes of Moore...a man BANNED from a mall for harassing young girls. Jokers like you who don't quite realize that folk like Trump just use you as door mats just don't care....I'm interested in how you square that with your daughters, or wives or mothers or sisters....BECAUSE DIRECT QUOTES AND HISTORIC DOUMENTED FACTS FROM AND ABOUT THE AFOREMENTIONED IS NO EXAGGERATION OR PROPAGANDA. Unless you're stupid enough to borrow the moronic mantra of "fake news" from your orange pated god.

So if you don't have the intellectual stones to actually answer the OP question, I'd say you're done here.
 
cawacko said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Sanders demonizes those who produce for a living? How fucking stupid is that statement when he has been championing the rights of workers and small business all his political career.
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That being said, what's your response to the OP?He voted for Hillary. Is your question directed at all voters or just Trump voters?
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The OP question is quite specific. Sanders voting Hillary to stop Trump was a cop out based on fear of a Trump presidency, IMHO.
 
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