the Mind boggles at Trump supporters.

Thing1 said:
There isn't anything to explain.

I mean, do you seriously think everything is apples-to-apples? You guys never look at variables & differing circumstances.

I'm not an AGW guy, but if I was, I'd probably point out that the chances of a spike coinciding w/ the Industrial Revolution are about 1 in 1,000.

Explain that one, NOVAy.
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please demonstrate such a spike occurred......oh snap, kinda fucks up your argument, doesn't it.......
 
Thing1 said:
Trump doesn't have a core, or really any policies. When has he ever even mentioned privatizing SS? I haven't heard much about drilling, either.

And his tax reform ain't my tax reform.
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because your tax reform is raising taxes?......by the way, no one has ever argued for "privatizing SS"......that's just a lib'rul meme......
 
noise said:
so..
tax reform is a "con man? -this is all smoke and mirrors?

You do realize Trump is opening up more lands for drilling?
exactly where is this con??

How does Trump lead a Senate of parochial interests, in a divided party?
what leadership are you speaking of?
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What leadership? Are you kidding me?

He's a child. He's a terrible role model, routinely insults and belittles even allies (much less opponents), lies 5.5 times a day on average and throws surrogates and staffers under the bus regularly. He absolutely will not take accountability or blame for any of his actions. He is one of the worst leaders we have ever had. He's pathetic.

And his tax reform ain't my tax reform. It shouldn't be yours either, unless you're the CEO of a Fortune 500 or a billionaire.
 
Anatta, you seem to understand how repulsive Trump is as an individual, but are willing to accept that for the agenda.

You should really give that some thought. That's a lot you're willing to accept. It's a lot of compromise, and I don't think you have thought through the ramifications of what having a "leader" like Trump means for the country both in the short and long term.

We can spend a day just talking about "alternative facts." I don't think you realize how much Trump's issues w/ the truth filter down into everyday life.
 
Thing1 said:
There isn't anything to explain.

I mean, do you seriously think everything is apples-to-apples? You guys never look at variables & differing circumstances.

I'm not an AGW guy, but if I was, I'd probably point out that the chances of a spike coinciding w/ the Industrial Revolution are about 1 in 1,000.

Explain that one, NOVAy.
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1 in 1,000? you're not making shit up again are you ?
 
Right said:
I've been politically aware since the Nixon days. He was pretty bad at the underhanded stuff and "Party first" attitude. But Hillary took it all to a new level, and she has done this since she was FLOTUS. Nixon's corruption was a high school prank in comparison to hers.
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You're not politically aware now.....
 
Thing1 said:
Anatta, you seem to understand how repulsive Trump is as an individual, but are willing to accept that for the agenda.

You should really give that some thought. That's a lot you're willing to accept. It's a lot of compromise, and I don't think you have thought through the ramifications of what having a "leader" like Trump means for the country both in the short and long term.

We can spend a day just talking about "alternative facts." I don't think you realize how much Trump's issues w/ the truth filter down into everyday life.
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I'm not interested in moral leadership, or a gee swell guy/gal that can't improve the country.
It's much like realpolitik in the domestic sphere. Get it done.

We have a chance to bust thru with strong growth,and re-negotiate bad trade agreements.
Good paying jobs come with that.

That lasts long after Trump is gone
 
noise said:
go to church. meditate. whatever.
I do not see "moral leader" listed as a Constitutional requirement for becoming POTUS
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Because it isn't a requirement.

But if you think you can have someone completely amoral like Trump, without consequences, you're dreaming.
 
Thing1 said:
Trump doesn't have a core, or really any policies. When has he ever even mentioned privatizing SS? I haven't heard much about drilling, either.

And his tax reform ain't my tax reform.
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Maybe you should get your information from a source other than MSNBC.
 
Thing1 said:
Because it isn't a requirement.

But if you think you can have someone completely amoral like Trump, without consequences, you're dreaming.
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he's not "amoral". but he's not an evangelical like Bush, or a globalist like Obama.

"America First"- gee. imagine a president putting the USA's well being first. about damn time !!
 
anatta said:
he's not "amoral". but he's not an evangelical like Bush, or a globalist like Obama.

"America First"- gee. imagine a president putting the USA's well being first. about damn time !!
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They all basically did, even Bush and his bad choice of invading Iraq thought it was the right thing for America.
 
Covfefe said:
They all basically did, even Bush and his bad choice of invading Iraq thought it was the right thing for America.
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Bush was a neocon- and it wasn't just Iraq, it was nation building in Afghanistan.
That's why we are stuck there 15 years later.

Obama's foreign policy was incoherent, except his inability to do his "Asian pivot",
and his truculent inability to deal/talk to with Putin
while Russia made new friends and influence in the middle east.
 
anatta said:
Bush was a neocon- and it wasn't just Iraq, it was nation building in Afghanistan.
That's why we are stuck there 15 years later.

Obama's foreign policy was incoherent, except his inability to do his "Asian pivot",
and his truculent inability to deal/talk to with Putin
while Russia made new friends and influence in the middle east.
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Your opinions
 
Covfefe said:
Your opinions
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facts. all that did happen.
If you had a basic clue about Russian expansionism into not just Syria, but Egypt, and Libya, and now Lebanon-
along with international geo-partnership with Iran..

even Turkey is shaky on staying in NATO..Obama was a bum. completely outplayed by Putin.
In fact Obama barely played at al.
 
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