The list of things the Rs dont like in the stim bill

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http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/02/gop.stimulus.worries/index.html?a


$2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.

• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.

• $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.

• $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).

• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.

• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.

• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.

• $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.

• $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.

• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.

• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.

• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.

• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."

• $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.

• $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.

• $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.

• $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.

• $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.

• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.

• $500 million for state and local fire stations.

• $650 million for wildland fire management on forest service lands.

• $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.

• $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.

• $412 million for CDC buildings and property.

• $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.

• $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.

• $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.

• $850 million for Amtrak.

• $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.

• $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.

• $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.

• $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations
 
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The $713 billion plan was put together by Florida Sen. Mel Martinez, who has been working with a handful of other GOP senators.

The proposal includes $430 billion in tax cuts, $114 billion for infrastructure projects, $138 billion for extending unemployment insurance, food stamps and other provisions to help those in need and $31 billion to address the housing crisis.

The draft Martinez put together is a broader approach than what some GOP leaders have suggested.


Well over half in tax cuts. The shittiest return on the stimulus dollar.

Can we stop listening to them yet?
 
I won't go as far as to agree with everything on the list but the following are some that I disagree with........especially the first one. All I can say is, "why?"


• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.

• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.

• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.

• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.

• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.

• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.

• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.

• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."

• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.

• $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.
 
The first one was already dropped.


but hmm a tax on cigs and 75 mill on smoking cessation....
The govt moves in strange ways.
 
evince said:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/02/gop.stimulus.worries/index.html?a


$2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.

• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.

• $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.

• $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).

• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.

• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.

• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.

• $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.

• $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.

• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.

• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.

• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.

• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."

• $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.

• $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.

• $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.

• $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.

• $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.

• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.

• $500 million for state and local fire stations.

• $650 million for wildland fire management on forest service lands.

• $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.

• $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.

• $412 million for CDC buildings and property.

• $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.

• $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.

• $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.

• $850 million for Amtrak.

• $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.

• $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.

• $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.

• $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations
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Didn't we already have an entire thread devoted to this list???
 
leaningright said:
I won't go as far as to agree with everything on the list but the following are some that I disagree with........especially the first one. All I can say is, "why?"


• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.

• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.

• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.

• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.

• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.

• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.

• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.

• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."

• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.

• $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.
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Every one of these things is a ready to fund deal. Plans are at ground break stage.

Hollywood creates a shit load of jobs dude.
 
It truly does uscitizen. If cigarrettes cost me $7.50 a pack or more that might be just the ticket to my cessation of smoking. :)
 
This was a tax break for Hollywood, which is like any other industry right now: struggling. If you think tax breaks for industry = jobs, you shouldn't oppose this.
 
Tax breaks for Hollywood....???? I just can't get my mind around that one. Maybe some areas of the movie entertainment crowd are mad that they still can't beat Eastwood at the box office.....so they need a tax break. Give me a break.
 
But you also would have to understand that I would be against tax breaks for oil companies too. That directly affects my neck of the woods. These folks make millions and billions (hollywood and oil companies) and really don't need any more help, IMO.
 
leaningright said:
Tax breaks for Hollywood....???? I just can't get my mind around that one. Maybe some areas of the movie entertainment crowd are mad that they still can't beat Eastwood at the box office.....so they need a tax break. Give me a break.
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Disney's profit was down a third in its 1st quarter.

Hollywood is just like any other industry, and it keeps a ton of people employed, all over the country. There is a connotation there on the right, but it's still an industry.
 
When they buy film to shoot movies they buy a product someone has to manufacture.

Then they use it by filming which has a whole (forgive me) cast of charactors who get employed in front of and behind the cammeras.

Then they hire people to process it.

I know some people hate hollywood but its one of those industries which is pretty much a quintisential American industry. Its one where we are still the top.
 
Yes it is an industry. But how essiential is it?
And they are making money, just not as much. Maybe they will have to start paying actors less?
 
uscitizen said:
Yes it is an industry. But how essiential is it?
And they are making money, just not as much. Maybe they will have to start paying actors less?
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Essential? Is that the qualification for who gets money, and who doesn't?

I thought the gist was creating jobs.

Beyond that, I would argue that Hollywood is pretty close to essential, especially during times like this.
 
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